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I use WinRAR and I even paid for it!!
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Feb 17, 2016 20:35
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The Kins posted:I found this five years or so ago:  edit: Bonzo posted:I use WinRAR and I even paid for it!!
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Feb 17, 2016 20:49
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My employer paid for WinRar. Tbh it handles archives way better than windows does and obviously supports more formats so I'm quite happy they did.
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Feb 17, 2016 21:31
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Gonzo the Eggman posted:Oh, the era before point 'n' click. Space Quest II was in real time. Add to that the problem of guessing the right words to use. Getting across that one valley on the swinging rope with the hungry beast on the other side that would eat you if you swung too far was the bane of my childhood. Text parser games taught me how to spell! 
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Feb 17, 2016 21:41
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mobby_6kl posted:My employer paid for WinRar. Tbh it handles archives way better than windows does and obviously supports more formats so I'm quite happy they did. One of my clients has paid winrar, and i "borrowed" license key from them. It is a good software, way better at handling archives than windows.
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Feb 17, 2016 21:43
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In high school in '89, we had an elective class called "Office Skills" or something similar, and we learned typing, ten-key, shorthand, filing, filling out forms, etc. There were some computers around - The admin offices had WISE terminals, and there was an Apple in the journalism classroom. It was also mostly women, but turned out to be a really useful class. (And an easy pass for me as I'd been touch-typing since 83 on my C64) Thinking back, its amazing how little classrooms had changed from the 50's to the late 80s.
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Feb 17, 2016 21:52
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Light Gun Man posted:The desktop PC is dead! By that, we mean horizontal cases with monitors sitting on top of them. Or as people used to call them, "the CPU" or "the hard disk". One kid called it "the Nintendo" but then he was a bit touched.
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Feb 17, 2016 22:08
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Snuffman posted:Getting across that one valley on the swinging rope with the hungry beast on the other side that would eat you if you swung too far was the bane of my childhood. The tarzan thing wasn't so bad for me, but gently caress that man-eating plant with the vines you have to maneuver through (twice) to get those berries.
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Feb 17, 2016 22:52
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Police Automaton posted:For reliability I'm using a Model M. Also usable as a club. For anyone who's still a fan of good keyboards, there's an entire keyboard megathread that's surprisingly active. Cherry and Topre mechanical keyswitches get most of the attention but a few of us worship at the altar of the buckling spring and love our Model M / Unicomp boards. 
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Feb 17, 2016 22:58
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I seems to remember learning how to type on some random program on the IBM computer in my Dad's office. I never took typing in high school (1988) because I was a band geek and didn't have room in my schedule. In 10th grade I got a job at a call center taking food delivery orders and got a little better at it. In 12th grade (1991) I took an Office Skills course because I had an elective credit for fulfill. At this point I had already done database programming so word processing wasn't going to be hard. I remember telling the teacher that if I promised to do all the work and be quiet, would she leave me alone and let me work on my BASIC class.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:16
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thathonkey posted:I remember when OS didnt have zip compression support built in and the first thing you'd have to get on a new install would be It really zips the llamas rear end
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Feb 17, 2016 23:21
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stubblyhead posted:The tarzan thing wasn't so bad for me, but gently caress that man-eating plant with the vines you have to maneuver through (twice) to get those berries. Wasn't too bad when you turned the walking speed down, but not exactly exhilarating gameplay.  if you didn't turn the speed down.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:34
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Windows 8 and Windows 10 made unzipping files a freaking chore.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:48
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I've got no idea how anyone can do extensive file operations with the standard windows explorer. It looks fancy but completely useless. I can just advise everyone to take a look at any dual-pane file manager. It's an old concept but it just makes so much sense. Does Windows at least have Virtual Desktops/Screens hidden somewhere now or are you still limited to one like some caveman?Powered Descent posted:For anyone who's still a fan of good keyboards, there's an entire keyboard megathread that's surprisingly active. Cherry and Topre mechanical keyswitches get most of the attention but a few of us worship at the altar of the buckling spring and love our Model M / Unicomp boards. I've had so many keyboards over the years (very expensive and very cheap) and all of them just eventually got used up, broke somewhere or weren't really throughly cleanable without damaging them so had to be replaced. Not the Model M. I'm sure it'll still be here long after I'm gone. Also love the clicking. Maybe I'll take a look at that thread, maybe someone can tell me where I can find/have made some custom keycaps for that monstrosity:  (not mine, but looks pretty much the same. Mine is still new. It absolutely dwarfs the normal Model Ms both in size and weight.) It's a 122-key Keyboard for an IBM 3197 terminal, with a bit of trickery you can hook it up to a normal PC, could not get it to work with Windows though. (with Linux it does, just needs a better keymap and some fudging here and there, didn't have the time to really take time with it yet) I'ma have so many shortcuts and macros. Police Automaton has a new favorite as of 00:16 on Feb 18, 2016 |
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Feb 18, 2016 00:14
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Police Automaton posted:I've got no idea how anyone can do extensive file operations with the standard windows explorer. It looks fancy but completely useless. I can just advise everyone to take a look at any dual-pane file manager. It's an old concept but it just makes so much sense. Does Windows at least have Virtual Desktops/Screens hidden somewhere now or are you still limited to one like some caveman? Is there any kind of pass thru for this socket/whatever to usb?
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Feb 18, 2016 00:23
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The Taint Reaper posted:Windows 8 and Windows 10 made unzipping files a freaking chore. right click, extract to... is a chore?
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Feb 18, 2016 00:28
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UIApplication posted:Is there any kind of pass thru for this socket/whatever to usb? It "talks" PS/2, I soldered a simple cable adapter. I didn't really have time to look into it a lot yet and I'm sure there's probably more information on the internet than what I can provide. You'll probably have a lovely time getting it to run with anything other than a PS/2 port and Linux though, Windows AFAIK hasn't got a way to customize keyboard mapping and with the scancode (only scancode 3, the controller rejects any request to change) and mapping it has that'd mean it would behave like an 84-Key keyboard if you can get it to work at all. (I couldn't in Windows, there was some driver-level issue, gotta admit I didn't try very hard in Windows though)
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Feb 18, 2016 00:52
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Police Automaton posted:I've got no idea how anyone can do extensive file operations with the standard windows explorer. Hint: 99.9% of users are never doing extensive file operations.
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Feb 18, 2016 00:52
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Germstore posted:right click, extract to... is a chore? Yeah I thought that would work but it keeps extracting files and then the files don't show up in the specified folder, it's real strange. it works fine on windows 7 but my windows 8 machine does not take kindly to zips.
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Feb 18, 2016 00:54
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thathonkey posted:I remember when OS didnt have zip compression support built in and the first thing you'd have to get on a new install would be And then open the keygen for WinZip... with WinZip.
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Feb 18, 2016 01:40
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Didn't WinRAR used to be fairly cheap or something? I thought it used to be something like $7, but I was at their website the other day and they're charging something like $25+ for it now. Guess their response to 7Zip eating their lunch was to raise prices to compensate for lack of sales, rather than lower the price or make it free to draw in more users. The Game Workshop strategy.
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Feb 18, 2016 01:43
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Light Gun Man posted:They still do it? Has it not become something stupider by now? Are kids calling monitors ipads yet? My dad called the tower a "modem", probably still does.
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Feb 18, 2016 01:53
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I'd be willing to bet that WinRAR hasn't sold a single-user license to anybody in like 15+ years and all of their customers are companies that are buying hundreds or thousands of licenses at a time for $6 a pop just because it's what they've always used. There's no other possible explanation for the product still existing in a world where 7-Zip exists.
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Feb 18, 2016 02:13
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I'd be willing to bet that WinRAR hasn't sold a single-user license to anybody in like 15+ years and all of their customers are companies that are buying hundreds or thousands of licenses at a time for $6 a pop just because it's what they've always used. There's no other possible explanation for the product still existing in a world where 7-Zip exists. It might just be me, but WinRar's interface and integration into Windows is 100x better than 7-zip. Every time I say "gently caress winrar, I'll just use 7zip", I end up caving and staring at Winrar's nag screen yet again.
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Feb 18, 2016 02:32
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JnnyThndrs posted:It might just be me, but WinRar's interface and integration into Windows is 100x better than 7-zip. Every time I say "gently caress winrar, I'll just use 7zip", I end up caving and staring at Winrar's nag screen yet again. 
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Feb 18, 2016 03:33
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They are both used by right clicking on files and choosing "Add to archive" or "Extract". 
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Feb 18, 2016 03:56
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 Always thought this lil guy was a smiling face
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Feb 18, 2016 04:08
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:They are both used by right clicking on files and choosing "Add to archive" or "Extract".
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Feb 18, 2016 04:13
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My fav was winace
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Feb 18, 2016 04:20
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I have the family IBM PC XT from 1984 in my basement that my Dad kept all these years and gave me. It still works perfectly - dual 5 1/4" drives and a 10 MB hard drive. I need to research if I can do anything with it. Hardware nowadays is so flimsy in comparison.
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Feb 18, 2016 04:39
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The Kins posted:Here's the story of the creator of ZIP files, by the way. When I was a kid, I was staying at a motel with one or both of parents for some reason. I met an old guy at the pool, and somehow computers came up. When he found out I was a budding computer nerd, he started telling me (in more technical detail than I could follow) about his work pioneering data compression. This was before zip was a thing. In my memory, that guy was already quite old, and this was close to thirty years ago. I wish I could remember his name (if he told it to me), because that was one of the coolest random encounters of my life: old man in pool at cheap motel turns out to be pioneering computational genius, and not at all a child molester. Edit: Also, holy cow does that site own. I've never heard of BBS Documentary, but I am on the edge of a nostalgia-induced coma, now. You can download Searchlight and Wildcat (and Telegard, and PowerBoard)! Centripetal Horse has a new favorite as of 04:58 on Feb 18, 2016 |
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Feb 18, 2016 04:54
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I bought a license for WinRar back in 2005. Then a software vendor we resell for decided to start using AES 256 encryption on all of their file downloads. WinRar didn't support it at the time and neither did Windows Explorer (does it even support it now?) 7zip may have supported it then, but I hadn't heard of it at the time. That meant installing WinZip on customer's servers so we could extract the ZIP files. It drove me bonkers. In order to download those files in the first place, you needed an account with the software vendor which meant you were a verified customer or reseller. You had to call them to get the download file name and password. Then you would need WinZip to extract using the provided password. All these hoops to get access to an msi/exe which was of no use to you unless your system was actually licensed to use the module you were trying to install. Back on topic, I remember in the early days when you could go past the WinZip 30 day trial, but you had to wait for it to finish counting the number of days you went unregistered. I think at some point though, they changed it so you couldn't keep using it, but still had to wait for it to finish counting before you could close out.
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Feb 18, 2016 05:11
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Snuffman posted:Getting across that one valley on the swinging rope with the hungry beast on the other side that would eat you if you swung too far was the bane of my childhood. I always used to get stuck at the part where you're captured by the ogre-type dude. Was it code:code:And in what other game does the hero commit mail fraud? King's Quest 4 was a "no jumping zone".
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Feb 18, 2016 06:06
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get ye flask
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Feb 18, 2016 06:17
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I bought winrar a few years ago since I used the trial version for so long that I figured they deserved my money. Nothing has changed, from the website to the interface, but I suppose that's probably for the better. The software gets updates frequently but there's no auto-update option so you have to download each update manually, I haven't updated in years. There used to be so many kinds of compression before, like zip, rar, ace, lzh, all sorts of crap. You would need separate software for awhile until more modern programs would open anything.
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Feb 18, 2016 06:35
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:They are both used by right clicking on files and choosing "Add to archive" or "Extract". Vaguely related rant here but in my experience most oldschool nerds have no idea how to use modern poo poo. The people who got me a career in IT will open a new browser window rather than a new tab and then click-and-drag the scrollbar. The solutions they used in 2003 might still work but they suck now when there are newer better ways to do all this poo poo every day. The old stuff shouldn't be forgotten or anything though. Part of my job is to teach high school kids to troubleshoot and fix basically anything that can happen to any kind of computer/electronic device and the biggest part of that is probably learning to research well. It's easy to google an error and run whatever commands the internet will tell you to run in the command prompt until you get one that works. Teenagers are real good at this because they're lazy, so you have to trick them into caring about how it works or else they're just copying the answers from the back of the book every time and not developing their own problem solving skills. Starting at the beginning is the best way to understand our current tech situation Even basic certificate exams like A+, it's still mostly questions on legacy components and it's laughable at first until you realise it's not bad to know. Also a lot of businesses use all that poo poo anyway. I have a client that still uses an AS/400 system from the early 90s and their tape backup has been lying unspooled at the bottom of the server for maybe a decade. I tried contacting the developer of their parts management software once and it turns out he's been dead for a while too. Anyway 7zip is superior.
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Feb 18, 2016 07:16
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Went into OfficeMax yesterday to buy some index cards. They're still selling some Jumpstart series games there. Makes me sad that the edutainment business is mostly dead, and today it's just a publisher reselling the same thing I had 20 years ago, with no real improvements.
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Feb 18, 2016 07:22
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speaking of the historical compression poo poo, what ever happened to arj?Data Graham posted:get ye flask you cannot get ye flask
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Feb 18, 2016 07:53
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Keith Atherton posted:I have the family IBM PC XT from 1984 in my basement that my Dad kept all these years and gave me. It still works perfectly - dual 5 1/4" drives and a 10 MB hard drive. I need to research if I can do anything with it. The Batteries for the clock in these old systems usually isn't a non-rechargeable lithium coin cell like today (which is dry) but still a Nickel/Cadmium (or, less common and less toxic, nickel/metal hydride) rechargeable Battery. If they completely discharge (as they do in unused computers) They often start leaking and what they leak is toxic and pretty corrosive. You should open up the computer and see how bad the damage is, if there is any. In bad cases it can look like this:  (The blue "Varta"-labeled bin is the battery)  For example, it eats it way along the ICs legs (like of this NEC V20/8088 clone) until it eventually rots the bonding wires of the die or even the die itself. It also dissolves copper traces on the PCBs.  It's fixable though if caught early enough but takes quite a bit of work. The batteries, if soldered, are easily removable without soldering by bending them back- and forth until they snap off. They do not need to be replaced necessarily usually. Such damage is often fixable but it's better not to let it go that far. Also wash hands throughly after contact with the battery gunk and dispose of the battery properly, that stuff is pretty bad for you. Ni/Cd Batteries are forbidden in most electronics in europe at least for good reason.
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Police Automaton posted:Also wash hands throughly after contact with the battery gunk and dispose of the battery properly, that stuff is pretty bad for you. Ni/Cd Batteries are forbidden in most electronics in europe at least for good reason. I would say wear thick nitrile* gloves. And wash your hands anyway because cleanliness is next to goonliness. *) Or other appropriate material, nitrile is what I've got so that's what I use.
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