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Diet Poison posted:like those guys supposedly from DHS- who the gently caress were they? Good thing we never had to see them again!? I thought they were more suicidal Muslims just pretending to be DHS agents so they could get the body and prevent the FBI from talking to him.
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Jack Gladney posted:X-Files has such a long history of doing offensive poo poo with other cultures, though, like stupidly gross ugly poo poo. But you know it's because they're so loving tone-deaf that they have no idea what they're doing and you kind of expect it and there's no real malice. It's like seeing that your kid has drawn all over the wall with a crayon. Chris Carter is almost 60 goddamn years old. He can't be that stupid.
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Decent season so far. Laughed my rear end off at the magic mushroom trip sequence.Sammus posted:I thought they were more suicidal Muslims just pretending to be DHS agents so they could get the body and prevent the FBI from talking to him. That's what I assumed as well.
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CelticPredator posted:Chris Carter is almost 60 goddamn years old. He can't be that stupid. he actually believes some of the stuff he puts on the show
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Jack Gladney posted:X-Files has such a long history of doing offensive poo poo with other cultures, though, like stupidly gross ugly poo poo. But you know it's because they're so loving tone-deaf that they have no idea what they're doing and you kind of expect it and there's no real malice. It's like seeing that your kid has drawn all over the wall with a crayon. The Native American poo poo they do in the first few seasons always cracks me up. Chris Carter has this weird and almost offensive fascination with their culture, but his portrayal of it is uhh just a bit stereotypical.
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Has there ever been a backdoor pilot that hasn't been hot garbage? Supernatural tried the same thing a couple seasons ago and it was also one of the worst episodes of the entire series.inignot posted:Shrooms Mulder was worth the rest of the episode. CelticPredator posted:No it really wasn't. Seriously, it wasn't even that good of a drug trip. Ignoring how terrible the effects were it was like babby's first dream sequence. Mulder even still looked bored throughout the thing, which is a shame because actors going hog wild is one of the best parts of drug trips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LJTMAATGZo computer parts posted:On Season 3, the Cockroach episode: Ebola was a popular "scary disease" even back 20 years ago. That episode came out a year after The Hot Zone, which is largely attributed to creating Ebola's place in pop culture as a scary diseas.
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Obviously we'll see what happens next week, but I don't even feel like there has been anything substantial added to the mytharc at all with this series. As sloppy as seasons 6-9 were, at least they sort of tried to continue a storyline that started early on. Other than some references to William, what exactly new/tangible have we learned about the "canon" of the mythology? Something something Fox news guy, military UFO for a few seconds, old man saying you're close this time Mulder. But nothing else really? Alien DNA? I recently went back and watched the Anasazi trilogy of episodes, which is brilliant. They flow well, they move the story line while leaving enough mystery to make you want to know more. I guess I need to go back and watch the opener of this series to distil it a bit, but I don't want to subject myself to that again.
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Mortanis posted:I get hate. It just baffles me when people crank that up to 11 with some need to out do everyone else. It's not just "hate", it's a vitriolic, aggressive making GBS threads. Things can't just be "bad", they have to be the worst thing ever and it hosed your childhood dog and then shot it in front of you. I totally get seriously disliking something but the responses go far, far beyond that. Well sure I guess if you only see everything in binary measures and are the type of person who tells the internet they're not worth your posts there are most definitely not some very fair criticisms of the episode's negative points in the thread, but if you're a normal human being there might be some grains of validity you can sift through.
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Mange Mite posted:Only if it includes a new generation of Lone Gunmen that are younger and much, much fatter Lone Goon-Men This is The Raid for me. What, you don't martial arts your way through a gangster fortress every day?
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68k posted:Obviously we'll see what happens next week, but I don't even feel like there has been anything substantial added to the mytharc at all with this series. Cancer Man got sunburned by a direct hit from Hellfire missiles? Must be all the Morleys.
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Sleeveless posted:Has there ever been a backdoor pilot that hasn't been hot garbage? I liked the private eye in House that was originally gonna get his own show on Fox. But then they brought him back after that show got canned and he was poo poo.
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CelticPredator posted:It's extremely offensive and fuels the already seething hatred of muslims. There is very little in this episode that makes a case that "Most Muslims aren't suicide bomber terrorists." I know. In this day and age, it's extremely unlikely that a suicide bomber would ever be Muslim. Just ask all the people who have encountered suicide bombers over the past year, especially in the Middle East and Asia.
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I really feel bad. I missed the Lone Gunmen the first time around. I saw them again, and felt sad that this was the only time they will be in the revival. If CSM can survive certain death, have them still be alive, Mulder thought they had died, and they were like "nope, still alive".
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PassTheRemote posted:I really feel bad. I missed the Lone Gunmen the first time around. I saw them again, and felt sad that this was the only time they will be in the revival. If CSM can survive certain death, have them still be alive, Mulder thought they had died, and they were like "nope, still alive". The Lone Gunmen were crazy goony bastards that went out as mothafukkin heroes. To have them pop up like "lolnope, totally secretly alive this whole time" would have completely undermined that. The way they were used in the episode was horrible, but that would have been really bad too.
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Astroman posted:I know. In this day and age, it's extremely unlikely that a suicide bomber would ever be Muslim. Just ask all the people who have encountered suicide bombers over the past year, especially in the Middle East and Asia. Hey yeah. And also, it's really cool and good to make people racist and fearful towards a race because of something a minority does elsewhere.
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CelticPredator posted:Hey yeah. And also, it's really cool and good to make people racist and fearful towards a race because of something a minority does elsewhere. Especially in the episode asking where hate comes from and supposing it's subconscious suggestion and propaganda
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Astroman posted:I know. In this day and age, it's extremely unlikely that a suicide bomber would ever be Muslim. Just ask all the people who have encountered suicide bombers over the past year, especially in the Middle East and Asia. Most mass shooters and domestic terrorists in America are white right-wing nut jobs and they had no problem having the white right-wing nutjob in the first episode go completely against expectations and be one of the best parts of the episode in the process.
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Nail Rat posted:No it wasn't. The brilliance of Arrested Development was the interaction between the entire family and how all of their escapades intertwined. You can make the case that making each episode only featuring 1 or 2 characters in a timeline that is concurrent is a meta thing along that same line, but each individual episode loses that magic. Yes it was due to work schedules, but maybe that means it shouldn't have been done if it wasn't important enough for the cast to all be available at the same time. It was so loving terrible. I had to go back and re-watch the first season to see how it "really was" and goddamn, I laughed harder in the first episode than I did the entire time in the new season. Plus Ron Howard just didnt shut the gently caress up and talked the entire time.
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Sleeveless posted:Has there ever been a backdoor pilot that hasn't been hot garbage? Supernatural tried the same thing a couple seasons ago and it was also one of the worst episodes of the entire series. Ither than the Lone Gunmen wasnt millenium also a backdoor? Or was that just a crossover? Maybe The Jeffersons? Though that was more of a spin-off
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Astroman posted:I know. In this day and age, it's extremely unlikely that a suicide bomber would ever be Muslim. Just ask all the people who have encountered suicide bombers over the past year, especially in the Middle East and Asia. To be fair suicide bombings were originally invented by Zionists
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Ugh that episode was poo poo, and I don't really get what the hell it was trying to do. This reboot's been loving frustrating. Nothing has been creepy or intriguing. Maybe founder's mutation a little. Kind of feel like this small chance they were given would be a great time to show they could still scare people shitless and earn more time for the drama, they have a new generation they have to make care about this. Did old fans even want the kid back? I might be heartless and immature but I'm kind of tired of Scully crying: the series. Maybe next episode will change it up and be about Mulder crying. Yes were-monster was good but if Darin Morgan is going to be the only writer who can write then there's not going to be another miniseries. And yeah, I'd like there to be another miniseries where they just let new authors at it and just have them write about a skeptic and a paranoid investigating Mysterious Mysteries with demons, aliens, and mutants.
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The series should have started with Scully in Hollywood trying to track Fox/Hank down. Then finding him in bed with two 18 year olds amidst a pile of coke.
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As a super casual watcher of X-Files in the 90's, I've loved all of these new episodes a lot. They have all been great to me and are better than a lot of other shows out right now. I think some of you are taking it way too seriously.
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Yo this latest episode was a very bad X-Files episode, but as has been said before, the whole revival was worth it because we got the Darin Morgan episode which ends up being one of the best all-time episodes of the X-Files.
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LoG posted:As a super casual watcher of X-Files in the 90's, I've loved all of these new episodes a lot. They have all been great to me and are better than a lot of other shows out right now. I think some of you are taking it way too seriously. I think you're taking it way too casually.
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only the second ep of the new season was worth anything and it wasn't even that good. the whole thing feels like a weird parody of x-files by someone not totally in on the joke. s10 mulder comes off with 0 authenticity. i could listen to one of those mulder waxing philosophical montage monologues for days from the old seasons, but they aren't even phoning it in with his character now. Scully is also basically just a prop for some crap emotional drama that no one wanted and shes not developing as a character at all. i can't imagine anyone being an apologist of really any of the new season, if you go back and watch even mediocre eps from seasons 2-6 you will be shocked at how much worse these ones are. they really shouldn't have made these eps because it just mars my memory of golden age tv and adds completely trash additional storylines to these characters that could have just been left alone. at least scully and skinner aged well
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LoG posted:I think some of you are taking it way too seriously. Um excuse me, first of all,
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I stopped watching after the first two and I'm a huge X-Files fan. I might try to catch these in syndication at some point I guess but the first two were bad enough I don't have much desire to. I'll always have seasons 1 through 6 I guess. Now I'm worried the Twin Peaks revival will suck  . I have a lot more faith in Lynch than Carter though, and in fairness to Carter I think a lot of the problems with the new show stem from it being only 6 episodes and them trying way too hard to cram a ton of poo poo in there. If they had 12 or so I have a feeling it would be much better, but who knows I guess
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One thing people are glossing over a lot is that it's silly to expect more of the same or even demanding something wholly original, considering that since the mid 90s everyone's constantly been trying to ape this show's formula to varying success. Spooky horror procedurals with overarching serial mythos were absolutely not a common thing on TV 20 years ago, and now look how prevalent it is - especially with those ramping up the serial aspect. It was a huge cultural phenomenon and paved the way for everything else of its kind (along with Twin Peaks) so if it doesn't feel quite like The X-Files, it probably shouldn't; it's been copied and imitated for 20 years. So of course it feels like a parody or imitation of itself sometimes. It's not just trying to follow itself, which is hard enough, it's trying to follow everything else it spawned or influenced. That's true of anything that comes back after so long and affected so many. You'll never quite capture that feeling again no matter how good you are because it was very much a product of its time. Hell, the whole first episode this season was the show catching up with itself and the times.
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Ginette Reno posted:I stopped watching after the first two and I'm a huge X-Files fan. I might try to catch these in syndication at some point I guess but the first two were bad enough I don't have much desire to. I'll always have seasons 1 through 6 I guess. You should check out episode 3 at least, that's the one that everyone seems to agree was really good. Go ahead and quit after that though.
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Sleeveless posted:You never know, until Breaking Bad happened Vince Gilligan's big non-X-Files achievement was Hancock Which is one more achievement (in six years) than Chris Carter has had in 14 years.
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LoG posted:As a super casual watcher of X-Files in the 90's, I've loved all of these new episodes a lot. They have all been great to me and are better than a lot of other shows out right now. I think some of you are taking it way too seriously. You're discounting the Serious Responsibility TeeVee executives and writers have to responsibly promote social justice and the rights of the downtrodden. With great Nielsen Ratings comes great responsibility. 
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