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WickedHate posted:Hey, we're getting the original numbering back on Action and Detective. Haven't followed those in years but nice, I like that. Buy this https://www.amazon.com/Superman-Action-Comics-Vol-Beneath/dp/1401254888/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455836716&sr=8-1&keywords=pak+action+comics
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WickedHate posted:Because it's also mutually loving. It's weird, sure, but comics are great for exploring concepts like that. When has he ever showed that he loved her?
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Doesn't matter how much they retcon and not-reboot and not-un-reboot - any DC relaunch with this editorial team is hosed in the long run. They're hopelessly aimless and have no guiding vision for the line; witness the complete 180 shift from last year's continuity-deemphasizing DC YOU relaunch to this.
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Barry Convex posted:Doesn't matter how much they retcon and not-reboot and not-un-reboot - any DC relaunch with this editorial team is hosed in the long run. They're hopelessly aimless and have no guiding vision for the line; witness the complete 180 shift from last year's continuity-deemphasizing DC YOU relaunch to this. Can you blame them? For all intents and purposes DC YOU was a commercial failure.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Can you blame them? For all intents and purposes DC YOU was a commercial failure. I've never gotten the feeling you've liked it in the first place, D_T, and yet, you aren't wrong. They're just trying everything because they can't figure out how to do anything right.
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Barry Convex posted:Doesn't matter how much they retcon and not-reboot and not-un-reboot - any DC relaunch with this editorial team is hosed in the long run. They're hopelessly aimless and have no guiding vision for the line; witness the complete 180 shift from last year's continuity-deemphasizing DC YOU relaunch to this. Viscerally de-emphasizing continuity, while good for a niche selection of the audience that cares exclusively for the individual quality of books above else, was not an enticing sales pitch for the vast majority of comics addicts who care exclusively about the jigsaw puzzle. The important part of DCYou, and the lesson that needs to be remembered above all else, was putting together an visually interesting and tonally diverse comics line. It remains to be seen if that's what we're getting. Anyway, DC dropping to like 30 titles is an extremely interesting gambit. Only publishing their core titles in June, even moreso. I'm very sad to see Midnighter, Son of Batman, and Martian Manhunter go. Glad to see Gotham Academy made it. Semper Fudge fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Feb 19, 2016 00:18
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Can you blame them? For all intents and purposes DC YOU was a commercial failure. Obviously, but that failure and this relaunch only a year later are both symptomatic of the same underlying problem. As someone once said, what a bunch of directionless glad-handers with Ouija boards.
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Barry Convex posted:Doesn't matter how much they retcon and not-reboot and not-un-reboot - any DC relaunch with this editorial team is hosed in the long run. They're hopelessly aimless and have no guiding vision for the line; witness the complete 180 shift from last year's continuity-deemphasizing DC YOU relaunch to this. Yeah, but who gives a gently caress, if we get good books from it? I could give a flying gently caress about how DCYou's doing (which is compounded by the dubiousness of Diamond's numbers). All I know is it got me Constantine: The Hellblazer, Martian Manhunter, Prez, and a whole lot of dope books.
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I'll freely admit that the Johns interview did a good job of hyping me up. The editorial problem is still a problem, as Convex said, but Johns does a good job of making it seem like they're approaching it from an artistic perspective. ... 
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ElNarez posted:Yeah, but who gives a gently caress, if we get good books from it? I could give a flying gently caress about how DCYou's doing (which is compounded by the dubiousness of Diamond's numbers). All I know is it got me Constantine: The Hellblazer, Martian Manhunter, Prez, and a whole lot of dope books. Which I read a bunch of. My point isn't that DC is incapable of making good comics.
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Yeah. If looking at it holistically can only bring out cynicism, forget about whatever Didio, Lee and Johns have to say and just take the announcements on a book by book basis. I'm sure there'll be at least a couple neat as hell ones despite whatever's going on. There always is. Like, I can't look at DC since 2011 as a disastrous failure when a good number of the best comics I've ever read were born out of it. Convergence was all good for me cause of two Shazam issues and Lois and Clark. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Feb 19, 2016 00:24
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Here's the lineup of all the books in REBIRTH:quote:June: Full reveal with creative teams will be on March 26, at Wondercon, with a livestream on Youtube
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Feb 19, 2016 00:33
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I count 17 double shipping titles and 15 monthly titles. That's a lot of double shipping.
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Feb 19, 2016 00:36
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They're going to try and ship Cyborg twice monthly? Who on the face of the planet is going to want to buy a Cyborg book twice a month?
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RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS REBIRTH DT, is there a blood sacrifice you're responsible for? You can tell us. e: Ugh. We gotta wait on creatives till March 26th? Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Feb 19, 2016 00:39
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I guess you can afford to drop the price on all your books when over half of your whole line is double shipped. Get ready for better stories but worse art.
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Is Deathstroke real good and I just never see people talking about it, or is there some other reason it's a double monthly book? Really hope the new Batman Beyond is with Terry again. It's not that he's such an amazing character I love but the world of Batman Beyond just feels so soulless with the main character the world was build around dead. I was expecting to be disappointed by Rebirth's launch titles (no Midnighter, Dr Fate (which wasn't great but I wanted to be good), We Are Robin, etc) but I still see a fair number of books I'll be looking forward to.
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Johns is speaking my language. If they can bring back that feeling of legacy and stick to a $2.99 price point ($1.99 if I sit back on Comixology), I'll be a happy camper. Bring on the Tom King books! Edit: that's what I get for typing this out slowly on my phone. I... hope Blue Beetle's good? *goes back to Valiant thread, celebrates smarter editorial and higher overall quality* Space Fish fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Feb 19, 2016 00:47
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Teenage Fansub posted:Yeah. If looking at it holistically can only bring out cynicism, forget about whatever Didio, Lee and Johns have to say and just take the announcements on a book by book basis. I'm sure there'll be at least a couple neat as hell ones despite whatever's going on. There always is. I can look at DC since 2011 (or really since 2006 or so) as a disastrous failure both commercially and creatively because there are lots and lots of really great comics out there and DC has produced a very small number of them in the past ten years, but have produced mountains of hilarious dreck that is exceptional because it's coming out of a company with access to a huge talent pool, a huge depth of IP, and a multinational corporation behind it. I'm not saying none of their comics have been good, but their batting average is pretty terrible. I don't try to argue that actually the Royals were actually a pretty great team in the 1990s and I shouldn't be negative about their eighteen consecutive losing seasons because once I saw Bret Saberhagen pitch a no hitter and that was pretty cool, potentially the greatest game of baseball ever played.
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The Super Man is a Brian Azzarello book about Lex Luthor becoming the most powerful superhero on the planet. Sign me up for that one. Superwoman is about Lois Lane with Superman's powers, written by Meredith Finch. Hard pass on that.
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Very curious about The Super Man and Super Sons. Maybe Lois and Clark Supes and his son? /\ That's probably it, looking at the cover for JL #51 I think Rich Bleedingcool was speculating The Super Man would be based on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Reign_of_the_Superman which would be nuts. Maybe the good kind of nuts. Edge & Christian posted:I don't mean to be a dick, but are two issues of Shazam and that Lois and Clark mini-series really some of the best comics you've ever read? Shazam, yes. I'm just saying they're comics in the fallout out of that bad event that make those two months worth while to me. I am just talking personally. I've managed to read good comics this whole time, so I can't look back with much regret. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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First creative teams being "announced" at ComicsPro apparently. Brian Azzarello and Inaki Miranda on The Super-Man, a Lex Luthor title. Meredith Finch and Tony Kondos on Superwoman, a Lois Lane title. Semper Fudge fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Semper Fudge posted:First creative teams being "announced" at ComicsPro apparently. TK must be a complete new guy as I can't find a thing about him anywhere.
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"SUPERWOMAN #1 Written by MEREDITH FINCH Art by TONY KONDOS Cover by BEN OLIVER Variant cover by AMANDA CONNER With her life changed forever, Lois Lane leaves the Daily Planet behind to become a full time superhero but how will the Pre-Flashpoint Lois Lane feel about Lois using her husband’s powers?" If the Lois and Clark concept is sticking around, it's a safe bet nothing's being wiped.
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Teenage Fansub posted:"SUPERWOMAN #1 And boom, like that Superwoman went from the book I'm most curious about to not at all interested.
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I'd like to know what exactly it was about her Wonder Woman that made them think they needed to keep Meredith Finch on as a writer.
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Dunbar posted:I'd like to know what exactly it was about her Wonder Woman that made them think they needed to keep Meredith Finch on as a writer. She's the wife of """A-List artist"""David Finch.
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If Blue Beetle stars Ted Kord and is written by Geoff Johns DC gets all of my money!Teenage Fansub posted:"SUPERWOMAN #1 This is one of those books thats going to get cancelled after 6 issues. DC must realize this.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:16
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Eh apparently those solicits are fake and Rich is an idiot.
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Teenage Fansub posted:"SUPERWOMAN #1 So Post Flashpoint Lois gets Pre Flashpoint Superman's powers (he probably dead) and that Lois is pissed off I guess?
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DrProsek posted:Is Deathstroke real good and I just never see people talking about it, or is there some other reason it's a double monthly book? It sells not very well, but better than most books that don't have a Batman or Superman character in them, plus Deathstroke is on a TV show.
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Edge & Christian posted:At first it was written and drawn by Tony Daniel, then after six issues Tony Daniel took on a co-writer primarily known for writing Tomb Raider and similar books at Top Cow while still drawing the book, then after a few months Daniel stopped drawing it and a parade of fill-in artists took over, then as of a couple of months ago Tony Daniel stopped co-writing it too. Deathstroke actually has been pulled from that TV show and probably won't return.
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Teenage Fansub posted:RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS REBIRTH Oh yeeeeeeah!!!!! RHATO lives again!  Most likely without Roy though 
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Oh poo poo I somehow un-bookmarked this thread. What'd I miss?
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X-O posted:Deathstroke actually has been pulled from that TV show and probably won't return. Wait what? I bet WB is hungry for that Deadpool money. I expect him to show up in Suicide Squad.
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Alucard Nacirema posted:Wait what? I bet WB is hungry for that Deadpool money. I expect him to show up in Suicide Squad. Manu Bennett was unhappy with the way the show was written in season 3, and especially with his character's appearance.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Manu Bennett was unhappy with the way the show was written in season 3, and especially with his character's appearance. Huh, any links for that? I really enjoyed his season and am curious what his thoughts were on it. Edge & Christian posted:It sells not very well, but better than most books that don't have a Batman or Superman character in them, plus Deathstroke is on a TV show. True, looking at the sales numbers it's roughly on par with New Suicide Squad, Starfire, and Superman American Alien. Not fantastic but relative to DC that's actually not bad. E: Travis343 posted:Rebirth sounds cool but ultimately is meaningless without knowing creative teams. Yeah, I don't think there any point in even announcing "DC will do books for all major JLers plus a JL book", we already know they will. All we need to know for that is who's making it. Same with the totally new books like Superwoman and Blue Beetle.
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