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I think that people are flawed and do/say stupid things sometimes especially when they have instant access to the internet and that doesn't mean they are walking pieces of garbage.
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Feb 18, 2016 06:17
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SatansBestBuddy posted:So I haven't really watched Extra Creditz in ages because they'd gotten kinda stale to me, so I had no idea they'd started a new channel called Extra Play where they'd sit around and talk about video game development while playing video games, and holy poo poo I'm loving this stuff! I've just caught up on The Animation of Video Games series, which is right up my alley, Dan gets into some of the really nitty gritty details of animation while messing around in video games and it's great. I haven't checked out all the videos they have on the channel yet, but I'm going to now and I figured I'd recommend it here, as I always enjoy it when people who work in the industry talk shop and get into the really technical details. I will second this recommendation for The Animation of Video Games/Danimation. He really hits his stride in the Kingdom Hearts videos. They also put a lot of work into each episode, complete with visual aids to help explain what they're talking about. I think one of the artists is doing a Pokemon LP or something too if you're into that.
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Feb 18, 2016 07:01
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Augus posted:I think that people are flawed and do/say stupid things sometimes especially when they have instant access to the internet and that doesn't mean they are walking pieces of garbage. If we don't call people pieces of poo poo for having somewhat controversial but ultimately inconsequential opinions, the terrorists win.
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Feb 18, 2016 07:35
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Extra Credits is usually bland and okay. I just always feel like they're trying to be smarter than they actually are though.
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Feb 18, 2016 08:02
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Tracula posted:Extra Credits is usually bland and okay. I just always feel like they're trying to be smarter than they actually are though. Yeah, that's why I stopped watching it. Most episodes spoke about the industry with sweeping generalizations and design talk that felt like it was written for a classroom discussion, lots of talking points but very little detail on any of them, like they were inviting you to ask questions but you can't cause it's a YouTube video, not a classroom. They also had a weird "certainty" to their tone, like any given topic is one they are experts on and their word is law, even when you can think of examples that can directly contradict what they're talking about. I think it's partly because they want to keep each episode as short as possible, rarely do they exceed ten minutes in length, but over the long term that means most of their episodes are shallow, only talking about one or two points and only in as much depth as you need to understand the concept, without specific examples from actual games. Extra Play is the complete opposite on every point. It's not heavily scripted and has very loose discussions, but still focused on the points they want to make, and they actually use the games they play as examples on whatever topic they're talking about each episode. I just watched their Skyward Sword stuff, and it's like 90% talk about particle effects and textures and just looking at stuff and trying to describe how it works. You can tell these are people who work on games and are having fun talking about how they do their job and trying to guess on how the game they're playing does the things they do for a living without actually having worked on those games. So yeah, as a guy who gave up on Extra Credits ages ago, I'm gonna recommend Extra Play. It's cool and informative and fun.
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Feb 18, 2016 09:30
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Todd has a new OHW up for patrons and I'm pissed because the bad song he featured has been stuck in my head all fuckin day 
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Feb 18, 2016 09:48
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Cubey posted:Todd has a new OHW up for patrons and I'm pissed because the bad song he featured has been stuck in my head all fuckin day And the song is?
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Feb 18, 2016 09:52
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I think you'll find that the logical conclusion to this evidence is that it is actually Twitter that causes cool dudes who do cool things to act like pieces of poo poo. Even better, having a meltdown on Twitter is a really good way to get attention too. If you leave twitter in disgrace or protest (Stephen Fry), people talk about it, if you tweet incredibly stupid things (Jeb Bush), people talk about it, and if you have a very clearly-orchestrated fake meltdown (Kanye West), people talk about it. Hey wow, all of those happened in like, one week! Twitter's a place where people say stupid things on purpose for attention, so people can speculate about it.
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Feb 18, 2016 11:36
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Also Fry acted like Non-STEM twitter Dawkins.
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Feb 18, 2016 12:40
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Kunster posted:Also Fry acted like Non-STEM twitter Dawkins. To be fair, Fry is manic-depressive. Dawkins has no such excuse. I think he might have gotten senile.
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Feb 18, 2016 16:30
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Testekill posted:And the song is? Mickey by Toni Basil. And I have to wonder why Todd is still trying to use YouTube since most of his videos get taken down.
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Feb 18, 2016 16:34
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Mraagvpeine posted:I have to wonder why Todd is still trying to use YouTube since most of his videos get taken down. With all the Youtube complaint videos I've seen up recently, I'm hoping a hashtag encouraging everyone to jump ship to another looser platform becomes insanely popular. I bet porn sites don't have Content ID systems. But the only problem is you have to have some actual porn shoehorned in your internet review show in order to upload it.  and that's fine with me
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Feb 18, 2016 16:56
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MrSlam posted:I'm hoping a hashtag encouraging everyone to jump ship to another looser platform becomes insanely popular. My brain processed this as "another loser platform" and yes, that would be accurate
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Feb 18, 2016 17:19
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kaleidolia posted:I thought he mostly used skit re-enactments these days? If those are still getting flagged, then he does have a point. If it's for the older stuff, I'm not surprised copyright bots would immediately flag them. I feel like maybe he hasn't realised how lucky he was. As far as I know, the strikes are against older reviews he reuploaded. As far as claiming wholesale scene stealing as parody in To Boldly Flee, not even Reed Richards could pull off a stretch like that. DStecks posted:My brain processed this as "another loser platform" and yes, that would be accurate Agreed, any video platform that has looser copyright rules and the same kind of monitization as YouTube will either be sued into the dust, or go the way of Blip and Revver. I think a lot of reviewers are going to have to look at their work and ask "Maybe I need to change the style of review".
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Feb 18, 2016 17:26
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wins.
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PassTheRemote posted:"Maybe I need to change the style of review". I have the perfect solution. They upload the video for a day or two, take it down, and then have a fake side-channel do a 'react video' while showing it in its entirety and monetize purely off of that. It's foolproof.
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Feb 18, 2016 17:43
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MrSlam posted:I bet porn sites don't have Content ID systems. But the only problem is you have to have some actual porn shoehorned in your internet review show in order to upload it. Todd will transition just fine then. You can't tell but in his videos he's wearing nothing but a hoodie and a smile. I'm sure Brad would do fine, too. He just has to stop censoring things. And for his reviews of non-porn videos, well, didn't he already get his donger out in Nudies, Rudies, and Crudies? He'll figure something out. Wait no now I'm imagining Brad reviewing The Oogieloves while buck naked AAA MY EYES WHY
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Feb 18, 2016 18:57
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Brad Presents E.T. The Porno pt 932/7764.
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Feb 18, 2016 19:00
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dijon du jour posted:Wait no now I'm imagining Brad reviewing The Oogieloves while buck naked AAA MY EYES WHY He's mid-coitus with a stare of hate in his eys, "I'm in the middle of something, thank you!" I'd pay more per month for that Patreon goal. Especially during the Jillian era.
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Feb 18, 2016 19:39
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SatansBestBuddy posted:
Extra history is pretty good too, though it is better when it is focusing on small scale events than the bigger stuff. Their warring states period series is really frustrating because it focuses entirely on nobunaga, hideyoshi and ieyasu's unification efforts and omits a ton of really crazy stuff happening elsewhere. Such as kenshin and shingen's rivalry. On the plus side they did introduce me to the great war video series, which is insanely in depth because it covers the entire war week by week.
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Feb 18, 2016 20:23
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PassTheRemote posted:I think a lot of reviewers are going to have to look at their work and ask "Maybe I need to change the style of review". I'm not convinced that most of them are capable of thinking of a way to change their review style. They didn't individually invent their style of review in the first place, they saw AVGN and tried to ape it.
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Feb 18, 2016 20:34
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Mraagvpeine posted:Mickey by Toni Basil. I don't know why he's doing a OHW on a lame cover of a Weird Al song. She doesn't even get the lyrics right! Mraagvpeine posted:And I have to wonder why Todd is still trying to use YouTube since most of his videos get taken down. He tweeted recently that he's pretty much done with Youtube, since his vids get taken down the instant they're uploaded. He makes zero monies off YouTube. So instead, he uploads them to Vimeo. You can't monetize Vimeo-- but he isn't getting monies from Youtube anyways. He gets monies from Patreon. Lots and lots of monies. At least an order of magnitude more than he could even theoretically get from YouTube. Way more than he ever got from Blip. I applaud the decision. I've been saying for a while-- if YouTube is just going to gently caress you over anyways, then gently caress them. Pick a different site, and make sure there's enough content for your Patreons. It's enough for an established creator to coast on. A new producer is kinda boned any which way. Unless enough people do this, new and old, to take a sizable chunk out of YouTube's racket-- I mean market.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:09
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Some larger youtubers (Boogie2988, I hate Everything, MundaneMatt, etc) have started to somewhat revolt against youtube. I believe the hashtag they're running with is #WTFU (Where's the fair use). I think they're just pissing into the wind sadly but we'll see what happens.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:48
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Tracula posted:Some larger youtubers (Boogie2988, I hate Everything, MundaneMatt, etc) have started to somewhat revolt against youtube. I believe the hashtag they're running with is #WTFU (Where's the fair use). I think they're just pissing into the wind sadly but we'll see what happens. quote:Some larger youtubers That's an apt description of Boogie2988
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Feb 19, 2016 03:52
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Tracula posted:Some larger youtubers (Boogie2988, I hate Everything, MundaneMatt, etc) have started to somewhat revolt against youtube. I believe the hashtag they're running with is #WTFU (Where's the fair use). I think they're just pissing into the wind sadly but we'll see what happens. If by "revolt" you mean pulling all their stuff off YouTube and bringing their entire fanbase over to another video site, then sure, I can get behind "revolt". If you mean sending out snarky tweets with a hashtag, while still keeping status quo with their videos AND continuing to feed views to YouTube-- then, well, I'm not sure if I can agree with the world "revolt".
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Feb 19, 2016 04:11
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Testekill posted:That's an apt description of Boogie2988 Man, I used to be in this guy's corner a lot more when he talked about his weight, but I changed my mind when he had a channel for a while that documented his attempts at losing weight. In the end, he stopped updating it because of I'm not saying he didn't have to deal with trolls - this is the internet, after all - but man.
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Feb 19, 2016 04:51
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Tracula posted:Some larger youtubers (Boogie2988, I hate Everything, MundaneMatt, etc) have started to somewhat revolt against youtube. I believe the hashtag they're running with is #WTFU (Where's the fair use). I think they're just pissing into the wind sadly but we'll see what happens. You can add H3H3, YMS, GradeAUnderA, and ChannelAwesome to that list. I know there's more but I'm not subscribed to them. Between the FineBros fiasco, a good chunk of people getting their videos taken down for no reason (blip in the system maybe?), and the natural backlash against pranks, reaction videos, and facebook-freebooting you can see why it'd be enough to start something. The thing about hashtags is that they're useless until they're not. Hashtag trends are apparently news now, so if you raise enough awareness theoretically you can shame major platforms into at least pretending there's a problem. Unfortunately, Youtube's response is like Facebook's or Google's. "What are you gonna do? Stop using our service?" They know they're too big to fail, you just think they'd be more pleasant about it instead of having entirely automated moderation.
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Feb 19, 2016 05:28
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PassTheRemote posted:As far as I know, the strikes are against older reviews he reuploaded. Youtube Content ID works by scanning the video for unedited footage before automatically claiming that video's monetization for the copyright holder. Usually anything longer than about 25 seconds (it varies from claim to claim) of unedited footage can get claimed. There are ways around it. I started using a simple animated frame for third party video. It's the same thing that TV like The Daily Show and Last Week Tonight use for their fair use clips of other news sources. It not only has the aesthetic signifier of "This is not ours we are just using it to make a point" but Youtube Content ID is fine with it. Another, more popular one is simply being more selective in editing. Tony Zhou of Every Frame a Painting, for example, uses a montage style to get around Content ID. Short clips, fast pace. When he wants to talk about longer scenes, he often time stretches them to talk about their blocking. Showing the whole clip triggers Content ID, but showing yourself showing the clip is fine. After all, part of the guidelines of fair use state that a work must be transformative of the original piece in order for fair use to be considered as a defense. PassTheRemote posted:
Ding Ding Ding! See, working on Blip made us all lazy. The TGWTG house editing style is often "let a clip play unedited for the length of a voiceover." Dirt simple to edit, but it's both visually boring and aesthetically disjointed. There's a discipline of "make the video match what you're saying on the voiceover" that a lot of us never learned. Now Blip is dead, Youtube is supreme, and we're all paying for our laziness. tl;dr, Content ID can be worked around by a technique known as "good editing."
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Feb 19, 2016 06:03
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Though Todd still has issues with the fact that Audio is far, far easier to detect than video. I'm in machine learning, I've done work on audio and video classification, and I'm still kind of amazed at just how quickly Shazam can detect a generic pop song compared to how long it took it just a couple years ago. Often it can get a match in under a second. Until the Convolutional Deep Network and LSTM arms race gets farther along, animated backgrounds, video cropping/mirroring, and sufficiently short clips are probably more than sufficient to confound any practical modern video detection scheme. I have to admit, every time a cool deep net paper comes out of Google, first I say "wow, that's really cool!" and then I go "oh... you're going to use this for Content ID, aren't you?"
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Feb 19, 2016 06:17
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KKall posted:Youtube Content ID works by scanning the video for unedited footage before automatically claiming that video's monetization for the copyright holder. I've given up on reminding people of this because I explain this literally every time ContentID is discussed and people in this very thread continue to think it's some kind of human-directed system where somebody finds out about your video, watches it, and slaps you with ContentID.
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Feb 19, 2016 07:28
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Also, porn sites do get swept for copyrighted content... it's just that the content in question is porn. Wouldn't do Brazzers much good to advertise on a website where you can watch all their content for free.
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Feb 19, 2016 07:34
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DStecks posted:I've given up on reminding people of this because I explain this literally every time ContentID is discussed and people in this very thread continue to think it's some kind of human-directed system where somebody finds out about your video, watches it, and slaps you with ContentID. Isn't it still possible for people to seek out content and make claims separate from ContentID? Isn't that how Derek Savage took down IHE's review of Cool Cat?
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Feb 19, 2016 08:19
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Max Wilco posted:Isn't it still possible for people to seek out content and make claims separate from ContentID? Isn't that how Derek Savage took down IHE's review of Cool Cat? Yeah, you even get a seperate notification on your Youtube dashboard if a claim was made by an actual person, not the system. Bot claims far, far outnumber the former, off course.
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Feb 19, 2016 10:05
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I tried watching a few of Spoony's live wire videos on YouTube. It's basically: Spoony: Ok, I'll going to play this game. I don't know anything about it and I haven't researched but it's supposed to be good. Chat: Cool! It's a fun game once you get into it.  *plays game, boring intro, starts to die a lot* Spoony: Ah, I dunno guys... I'm getting a bad feeling about this. I'm dying a lot. Chat: Well, if you slow down and pay attention to the clues- Spoony: gently caress that! I'm here to have fun. *plays game* *doesn't have fun* Spoony: I die every time! Why do I die? This is stupid!  Chat: You have to stealth the first stage but in the second stage you get this magic sword- Spoony: gently caress stealth! I play the way I want to. Chat: But Spoony- Spoony: Don't tell me how to play!! This is my live stream and if you can't handle it GET THE gently caress OUT!!! Chat:  Spoony: Arrrgghhhh!!! I hate this game!!! This game sucks! Chat: If played it carefully and paid attention you can build your XP- Spoony: I play the way I want to and if I die then that's because the game is OBJECTIVELY BAD and anyone who likes this game is a PUSSY!! *rage quits* *closes stream* Chat:  Copy paste for every stream. 
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Feb 19, 2016 12:54
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gently caress, Spoony's being possessed by the ghost of DarkSydePhil. Which is especially fiendish cause afaik DSP isn't even dead yet.
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Feb 19, 2016 15:38
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dijon du jour posted:gently caress, Spoony's being possessed by the ghost of DarkSydePhil. His soul is.
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Feb 19, 2016 15:45
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dijon du jour posted:gently caress, Spoony's being possessed by the ghost of DarkSydePhil. Eh, I dunno man. At least DSP floods his channel with a video every few hours.
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Feb 19, 2016 17:39
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 *Price is Right hor-THIS POST HAS BEEN FLAGGED FOR CONTAINING COPYRIGHTED AUDIO
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Feb 19, 2016 17:51
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I'm waiting for youtube to take me down. I've been copyright claimed by so much. But I never contest it because uh, they're right. I am using poo poo that isn't mine. Maybe it's because I don't try and monitize it?
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Feb 19, 2016 17:56
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dijon du jour posted:
Hahahahaha poo poo. That's grand.
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Feb 19, 2016 18:03
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dijon du jour posted:
In the hour since he posted this, the issue's been resolved.
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