Mr Enderby posted:Yeah, but that doesn't seem very plausible to me because why would you just borrow some random guy's gun and start firing it off. Who was carrying a loaded gun in a theater? Isn't this still a time period where most city-dwellers would carry a sword/long dagger with them most times? I assume the same thing could apply to guns.
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I am not a historian, but I think you are massively over-estimating the caution of even modern people, let alone people who had no conception of firearm safety and thought it was legit to drink in the morning. People are loving dumb as hell.
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Xiahou Dun posted:people who had no conception of firearm safety and thought it was legit to drink in the morning.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I am not a historian, but I think you are massively over-estimating the caution of even modern people, let alone people who had no conception of firearm safety and thought it was legit to drink in the morning. Accidents happen It's also worth noting that up until relatively recently (you know, taking the long view), it was in many (at least some) places actually safer to drink beer than water so when you keep that fact in mind, a lot of history makes a lot more sense. It's kind of a wonder that science ever happened at all, really. Ainsley McTree fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:Accidents happen Nah, drunk science is best science. If you don't have thesis whiskey, you are doing it wrong.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 03:35 |
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If it's a whiskey cocktail, does that make it a synthesis whiskey? This is when coffee and tea start getting big in the West, right? Did people end up drinking both, like a medieval Four Loko, or was it more of a one or the other thing?
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 03:50 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:Accidents happen I'm gonna kick you're rear end Loomer posted:Hostel 4: Renfair Swordsmiths. I've never seen a swordsmith at a renn fair but there is a blacksmith at the one i go to who sucks. All his poo poo is overpriced, his technique is bad and he only knows how to make like 5 things. That's my story. Rockopolis posted:If it's a whiskey cocktail, does that make it a synthesis whiskey? Coffee and tea are both post-medieval as far as Europe is concerned
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 03:56 |
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nothing to seehere posted:Isn't this still a time period where most city-dwellers would carry a sword/long dagger with them most times? I assume the same thing could apply to guns. possibly not in england, i've read a secondary source on their civil war where some officer is ordering a fuckton of swords to supply his dudes and i've never seen anything like that for germany, the implication there being they brought their own
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 04:03 |
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I've never seen a swordsmith at a renn fair but there is a blacksmith at the one i go to who sucks. All his poo poo is overpriced, his technique is bad and he only knows how to make like 5 things. That's my story.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 04:06 |
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If you want legit, you want viking reenactors. Admittedly, half the groups are absolutely dreadful, but the local are actually decent. Blacksmith actually makes useful things and makes knives for a living, and his swordsmithing is on point. Top-notch accuracy on clothing as far as can be had (which, let me just tell you, sucks in the Aussie summer...) down to the silk undershirts, accurate cooking as far as can be had within reasonable limits, accurate camp design, the lot. They're even getting a lawspeaker who speaks old norse just because they don't have one yet and think they should. It's always a shock when one of the other ones visit and they'll have dudes with like, fantasy swords they bought in a collectible shop rather than a proper nordic style sword or seax.
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Loomer posted:If you want legit, you want viking reenactors. Admittedly, half the groups are absolutely dreadful, but the local are actually decent. Blacksmith actually makes useful things and makes knives for a living, and his swordsmithing is on point. Top-notch accuracy on clothing as far as can be had (which, let me just tell you, sucks in the Aussie summer...) down to the silk undershirts, accurate cooking as far as can be had within reasonable limits, accurate camp design, the lot. They're even getting a lawspeaker who speaks old norse just because they don't have one yet and think they should. It's always a shock when one of the other ones visit and they'll have dudes with like, fantasy swords they bought in a collectible shop rather than a proper nordic style sword or seax. In my experience there are two big problems with viking reenactors, even good ones: Lots of white supremacists, waaaaaaay too much lamellar. Really, too much armour in general. edit: does the group have a website? Rodrigo Diaz fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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It does not, but it also has no lamellar and no neo-nazis! There's a few guys with chain, a few guys with some thicker coats they wear for the battles, but most of them just go it in their usual viking clothes, maybe a helmet.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 07:33 |
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My hometown has a medieval fair thing every year and I got drunk there once and bought a spatha for a hideous amount of money off the best swordsmith in Finland. That is my medieval fair story.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 10:25 |
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What is a hideous amount of money? Are people actually going there with the prospect of spending 1-2k €?
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 10:43 |
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HEY GAL posted:renfair everything is terrible The turkey legs can be quite nice. (Ren faires per se seem to be an American thing, though, I can't think of a direct British equivalent)
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Rockopolis posted:If it's a whiskey cocktail, does that make it a synthesis whiskey? Tea, specifically, is more of a 18th-19th century thing. Coffee was the fashionable thing in 17th century England same as it was elsewhere on the continent, then we ended up owning India and turns out that's a boffo place to grow tea.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 11:09 |
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feedmegin posted:The turkey legs can be quite nice. I'd be willing to bet that you have "Medieval Festivals" or something like that.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 12:38 |
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:
I know one of the guys from that YouTube show Man At Arms where they make weapons from video games and movies. He comes to a bunch of HEMA events with some of his work and everything he makes is hot garbage. Every sword feels like twice its weight, and since he doesn't base his work on historical examples everything looks like it's from a video game or a kid's drawing. Big thick cross guards, oversized pommels, weird cross sections, etc. That's my story.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 14:13 |
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Hogge Wild posted:I'd be willing to bet that you have "Medieval Festivals" or something like that. Ehh, kind of, often held at an actual castle, but it tends to be more of a specifically kids' thing and less of a sort of semi-LARP/random-stuff-market if that makes sense.
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nothing to seehere posted:Isn't this still a time period where most city-dwellers would carry a sword/long dagger with them most times? I assume the same thing could apply to guns. Well, not "most" city-dwellers, but yeah, plenty of swords around. Theoretically not to be worn by non-gentleman, but that doesn't seem to be enforced. Also have to be below a certain length, and that is enforced. If you kill someone in a brawl, your sword will be measured (ooh matron). But guns are much more restricted. I've never come across guns being carried in civilian life. They're illegal unless you have a certain income, and extra restrictions on wheel-locks and pistols start to come in after 1584, when Prince William the silent was assassinated. HEY GAL posted:day drinking owns tho, like everything else these guys do--black magic, long hair on dudes, codpieces. i could go on When Ben Johnson converted back from Catholicism, he demonstrated his Protestantism by going to Church and drinking off the whole communion cup in one. He's a oval office, in the main, but that owns.
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Man Whore posted:Reminds me of a thing in US WWII re-enactment a couple years ago where a guy brought LIVE ROUNDS. 4 people injured. Made for some fun pictures though:
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 15:49 |
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ACW reeenactors are also a bit notorious for hurting and killing people. I know a lot of the local ones don't allow rifles to have their ramrods (no I don't know how they load) because of people forgetting it was in there and shooting it at the other line.
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 21:38 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:ACW reeenactors are also a bit notorious for hurting and killing people. I know a lot of the local ones don't allow rifles to have their ramrods (no I don't know how they load) because of people forgetting it was in there and shooting it at the other line. and you can load fine without a ramrod if you're firing blanks, simply pour the powder down the barrel and tap the butt of your weapon on the ground a few times to settle it
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 22:42 |
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HEY GAL posted:the worst thing i ever heard happened at an ECW reenactment: it was a hot day and some cuirassier, in full harness, filled his helmet with water, poured it over himself, and promptly walked into an electric fence
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HEY GAL posted:the worst thing i ever heard happened at an ECW reenactment: it was a hot day and some cuirassier, in full harness, filled his helmet with water, poured it over himself, and promptly walked into an electric fence well at least he missed the barbed wire and stack of tables
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Bum the Sad posted:Was this some kind of a weird cage match?
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 23:29 |
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live video from the 30yw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxldOEOnzPA
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 23:33 |
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oops lol
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# ? Feb 19, 2016 23:36 |
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HEY GAL posted:the worst thing i ever heard happened at an ECW reenactment: it was a hot day and some cuirassier, in full harness, filled his helmet with water, poured it over himself, and promptly walked into an electric fence Poor Corporal Ren Hoek.
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# ? Feb 20, 2016 04:32 |
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JaucheCharly posted:What is a hideous amount of money? Are people actually going there with the prospect of spending 1-2k €? A grand in euros.
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# ? Feb 20, 2016 14:50 |
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HEY GAL posted:and you can load fine without a ramrod if you're firing blanks, simply pour the powder down the barrel and tap the butt of your weapon on the ground a few times to settle it That works? I saw it in Sharpe and assumed that was made up, since if it does work, why issue ramrods at all?
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Hazzard posted:That works? I saw it in Sharpe and assumed that was made up, since if it does work, why issue ramrods at all? I assume because ramrods make it faster and more consistent than butt-tapping
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# ? Feb 20, 2016 17:55 |
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Hazzard posted:That works? I saw it in Sharpe and assumed that was made up, since if it does work, why issue ramrods at all?
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# ? Feb 20, 2016 18:28 |
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mods: Ask me about Medieval History & Combat: more consistent than butt-tapping
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# ? Feb 21, 2016 00:06 |
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Hogge Wild posted:mods: Ask me about Medieval History & Combat: more consistent than butt-tapping Ramrods only, no butt stuff.
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# ? Feb 21, 2016 00:50 |
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There's also a trade-off in that tap loading works better with greater windage and consequently lower accuracy.
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Robindaybird posted:I assume because ramrods make it faster and more consistent than butt-tapping Slower, but more consistent and less liable to leave you with a squib, a misfire, or accidentally shooting yourself in the head, all of which are generally recognized as A Bad Thing(tm).
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# ? Feb 21, 2016 11:36 |
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Verisimilidude posted:I know one of the guys from that YouTube show Man At Arms where they make weapons from video games and movies. He comes to a bunch of HEMA events with some of his work and everything he makes is hot garbage. Every sword feels like twice its weight, and since he doesn't base his work on historical examples everything looks like it's from a video game or a kid's drawing. Big thick cross guards, oversized pommels, weird cross sections, etc. That's my story. Lol that rules. I think everything Baltimore knife and sword makes looks like poo poo and the smiths I know that idolize them are lames.
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# ? Feb 21, 2016 15:05 |
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I heard you like armor and stuff. A good place to have nearby when the zombie apocalypse happens.
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what a partisan post
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