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BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop


LOOK AT DIS

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Lumis
Jan 10, 2006

I'm either a friend or a foe. Depends on who's looking.

FaintlyQuaint posted:

Assuming it doesn't take new red scrip stuff which won't be in until Thursday, yeah.

There are new masterbooks for crafters which are likely gated behind red scrips. The i220 stuff is probably in those and probably specialist only.

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop
Does Squeenix offer the patch notes in simple .txt form? Want to print this out...

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

I did a thing.


If anybody wants to mess around (add dungeon gear, mess with the layout, whatever), Graphviz file is here

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

Scrublord Prime posted:

Can't wait to roll mogex in df :shepicide:

Having cleared it for the first time last night, that fight only depends on someone explaining the plan. Otherwise you're just begging for someone to mash down 2 Moogles and wipe in like 2 minutes. I'm curious, why do you kill the Black Mage one?

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


BetterToRuleInHell posted:

[3.0] Upon completing a Vanu Vanu beast tribe story quest and achieving a higher rank, players will be awarded a bonus of three additional daily quests after accepting all available daily quests.

So does this mean that, since I've maxed rank 8 with Vanu, I get 24 extra daily quests on top of the 12 I already have?

It says story quest, I'm assuming this is so you can do the rank up quest and then keep going, because the Vanu Vanu (and I'm assuming the Vnath) have this little problem where you don't get all the rep bonus from your last daily quest before the rank up quest at most ranks. This is a decent fix for that annoyance.

So unless I'm completely mistaken, it will go do 3 daily quests, do story, get 3 more quest allowances to do the next 3 daily quests that unlocked from story.

Belzac
Mar 20, 2008

The third fracture I would do away with...I can't, sorry.

F R A C T U R E

SonicRulez posted:

Having cleared it for the first time last night, that fight only depends on someone explaining the plan. Otherwise you're just begging for someone to mash down 2 Moogles and wipe in like 2 minutes. I'm curious, why do you kill the Black Mage one?

It has the lowest health.

Scrublord Prime
Nov 27, 2007


The fight itself isn't bad nowadays, mogex just needs everybody to have an ounce of situational awareness and not puke out their max dps rotations and watch for some other minor mechanics. That mixed with who you get in DFs makes mogex like herding cats. Even nowadays I still have occasional wipes on Moghard in Trials Roulette when a tank or dps hurts King Mog too much or other dumb poo poo like nobody picking up the tank moogles and they end up loving with the healers.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I'm glad to see that warriors have been completely untouched, other than the attack power changes. I like SE's policy of buffing weak classes rather than nerfing strong ones.

e: also correct me if I'm wrong but now it looks like Goring Blade will be the highest potency attack in the game at 640 :eyepop:

Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Feb 19, 2016

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

KaneTW posted:

I did a thing.


If anybody wants to mess around (add dungeon gear, mess with the layout, whatever), Graphviz file is here

This is pretty good. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Midas Savage weapons are actually going to be i245 now? Also, for someone who started at 2.55, it's cool to see the gear progression I missed out on.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

seiferguy posted:

This is pretty good. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Midas Savage weapons are actually going to be i245 now? Also, for someone who started at 2.55, it's cool to see the gear progression I missed out on.

I didn't add weapon ilvls. I guess I could. I'll update the image.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

KaneTW posted:

I didn't add weapon ilvls. I guess I could. I'll update the image.

I just realized shortly after that you were doing armor. I think weapons would be better to have their own flow since they're usually acquired through different means.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

seiferguy posted:

I just realized shortly after that you were doing armor. I think weapons would be better to have their own flow since they're usually acquired through different means.

I just highlighted the outliers (ilvl+5 weapons from raids). Trials can probably fit in there, too.

Technogeek
Sep 9, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
"I Hope Mentor Will Notice Me I" ...really???? I hate our localization team...why not leave it as "I Hope Senpai Will Notice Me I" (that ofc includes all achievements with this name). They make stupid references to stuff all the time but when they have an actual reference to something nearly mainstream by now...they change it....also...I hote for "Duty Roulette: Senpai"

Thank you

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer

Technogeek posted:

"I Hope Mentor Will Notice Me I" ...really???? I hate our localization team...why not leave it as "I Hope Senpai Will Notice Me I" (that ofc includes all achievements with this name). They make stupid references to stuff all the time but when they have an actual reference to something nearly mainstream by now...they change it....also...I hote for "Duty Roulette: Senpai"

Thank you

This one actually makes me kinda angry.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
頼れる先輩

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

Truga posted:

頼れる先輩
お願い

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

Technogeek posted:

"I Hope Mentor Will Notice Me I" ...really???? I hate our localization team...why not leave it as "I Hope Senpai Will Notice Me I" (that ofc includes all achievements with this name). They make stupid references to stuff all the time but when they have an actual reference to something nearly mainstream by now...they change it....also...I hote for "Duty Roulette: Senpai"

Thank you

I'd bet like $5 that the JP name isn't even a reference.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
So with Fiend EX weapons being 220 isn't this just another Bismarck EX situation

Chyea
Aug 15, 2011
Sephirot weapons will at least be useful for 3 weeks before people have enough lore to buy the weapons.

Bismark was outdated straight away

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Technogeek posted:

"I Hope Mentor Will Notice Me I" ...really???? I hate our localization team...why not leave it as "I Hope Senpai Will Notice Me I" (that ofc includes all achievements with this name). They make stupid references to stuff all the time but when they have an actual reference to something nearly mainstream by now...they change it....also...I hote for "Duty Roulette: Senpai"

Thank you

Translator's note: Senpai means "mentor"

Lumis
Jan 10, 2006

I'm either a friend or a foe. Depends on who's looking.

Captain Oblivious posted:

So with Fiend EX weapons being 220 isn't this just another Bismarck EX situation

The Bismarck weapons were 175 when they came out, and were immediately outclassed by the 180 upgraded Law weapons that you could get really easily since Law and Seals weren't time-gated.

It'll take for most classes 3 weeks to get their Lore weapons (assuming 990 cost like the other ones), so Fiend weapons will be relevant for a short while, and will continue being relevant for people gearing alt jobs while they focus the Lore tomes on their mains.

Lumis fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Feb 19, 2016

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.

vOv posted:

I'd bet like $5 that the JP name isn't even a reference.

It's 頼れる先輩:ランク1, where 先輩 is in fact senpai, and 頼れる is roughly translated as "to rely on". (ランク 1 is just Rank 1)

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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I'm just going to assume that like all primal weapons, Sephirot's gear will look :krad: so it will still be worth running. I mean, I just got my Thordan EX SCH book yesterday and it has blue flames coming out of it.

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

seiferguy posted:

Also:



Finally. Those windows closing was annoying as hell.

Now if they'd just do the same for opening retainer inventories.

Gizmo Chicken
Feb 17, 2011

Yep.

seiferguy posted:

I'm just going to assume that like all primal weapons, Sephirot's gear will look :krad: so it will still be worth running. I mean, I just got my Thordan EX SCH book yesterday and it has blue flames coming out of it.

Sephirot will be worth running purely for the barding.

Scrublord Prime
Nov 27, 2007


Isn't the sword and board getting combined into one purchase so Paladins don't get their one week weapon advantage anymore?

Virulence
Jun 14, 2012

Chyea posted:

Sephirot weapons will at least be useful for 3 weeks before people have enough lore to buy the weapons.

Bismark was outdated straight away

You will also need to exchange a High-Capacity Tomestone for the Lore weapons, which you get by trading an unknown number of Midan Gears, which you can only obtain one of per week from A8 normal. Probably only a 3:1 exchange rate, but who the gently caress knows.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.
Something odd I noticed in the patch notes: The sheet music for Thunder Rolls (Ramuh's theme) is consistently listed across the various languages as coming from the Ragnarok (in English and German)/Ragnarok Class Containment (in French and Japanese).

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

"Regardless of whether or not a player has completed the side quest "A Vital Title," they will be able to purchase a Zodiac Weapon replica from the NPC Drake in the North Shroud (X:30.3 Y:20.1) if they meet any of the following conditions:
They have exchanged their Zodiac Weapon Zeta for an Astral Nodule and Umbral Nodule."

Thank god because the previous "do this side quest or gently caress you" thing was really dumb.

I won't say no to (small) Monk buffs. :parrot:

Virulence posted:

You have always had to have a substantial amount of gil to spend if you want to be really really good at progression raiding.

Even just using (HQ) potions is expensive as hell over the long run.

Gizmo Chicken posted:

Sephirot will be worth running purely for the barding.


:eyepop:

Do you even lift, 'bo?

Ouhei
Oct 23, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Scrublord Prime posted:

Isn't the sword and board getting combined into one purchase so Paladins don't get their one week weapon advantage anymore?

I read in there that they're going to make both drop from a chest if they drop now, I don't remember seeing this but it wouldn't shock me.

Scrublord Prime
Nov 27, 2007


Yeah, I didn't see buying them together in the patch notes, just dropping together. I vaguely recall that buying together was going to be a thing going forward but damned if it's something yoshi.p actually said or if it was random hearsay that I heard once.

Belzac
Mar 20, 2008

The third fracture I would do away with...I can't, sorry.

F R A C T U R E
I think in the entirety of progression and farming savage first alex I've used maybe 10 crafted drac pots.

Smart Car
Mar 31, 2011

Scrublord Prime posted:

Yeah, I didn't see buying them together in the patch notes, just dropping together. I vaguely recall that buying together was going to be a thing going forward but damned if it's something yoshi.p actually said or if it was random hearsay that I heard once.
While it doesn't give a specific answer on Lore purchased PLD stuff, the patch notes specifically give the example that buying the sword and shield with Midan Manifesto Page 4s will be separate. So it must have been random hearsay.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


I tried out being a blacksmith last night.
Do they keep leveling at a ridiculously fast pace or does it level off eventually? Just running back and forth between Limsa Lominsa and its neighbors doing tradecraft leves got me to 12 in no time.

Patch Notes posted:

[2.0] The requirements for undertaking the Chronicles of a New Era quest "Drop Dead Shiva" have been adjusted as follows:

Players must first complete the main scenario quest "Dreams of Ice," and have cleared The Striking Tree (Extreme). → Players must first complete the main scenario quest "Dreams of Ice."

Oh, before you had to do Extreme Ramuh in order to unlock Normal Shiva? That's a pretty weird progression, at least for people who aren't up to date with the high-level content when each patch drops.

Augus fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Feb 19, 2016

Scrublord Prime
Nov 27, 2007


Ahh, good catch. Yeah, must've been hearsay.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:



I can't stop laughing

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

Augus posted:

I tried out being a blacksmith last night.
Do they keep leveling at a ridiculously fast pace or does it level off eventually? Just running back and forth between Limsa Lominsa and its neighbors doing tradecraft leves got me to 12 in no time.

I did do WVR 40-45 with 3-4 HQ leve turnins a level running around in Uldah; it's super fast compared to combat classes and gatherers as long as you have the gil and the leves to spare.

ilifinicus
Mar 7, 2004

Smart Car posted:

While it doesn't give a specific answer on Lore purchased PLD stuff, the patch notes specifically give the example that buying the sword and shield with Midan Manifesto Page 4s will be separate. So it must have been random hearsay.
mistranslation

what's going to happen is that IF the sword drops, the shield ALSO drops

they are never separate drops, but they are still separate items

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Smart Car
Mar 31, 2011

ilifinicus posted:

mistranslation

what's going to happen is that IF the sword drops, the shield ALSO drops

they are never separate drops, but they are still separate items
There is no mistranslation, the English patch notes only mention drops. I was clarifying for someone else.

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