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It's okay to hate the show, but making up references is really loving strange. They were not referencing Archer. :psydyck:
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Drifter posted:It's okay to hate the show, but making up references is really loving strange. They were not referencing Archer. :psydyck: No you see because here is my 1000 word essay on why LoT is ripping off a 3 minute segment from 5 years ago... 
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Feb 19, 2016 16:50
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I think he was saying this torture scene which we're supposed to take seriously is pretty similar to another torture scene that is a joke.
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Feb 19, 2016 17:02
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I really like Arrow and The Flash. I LOVE Legends of Tomorrow. It hits the comic book itch perfectly. I really don't dislike anyone on the team, though there's some really notable standouts. Hell, I even dig Stein's monotone chastisement of pretty much everyone ever. I just wish that Rip had collected a few pieces of Savage after blowing him up. Let's see how Savage conquers the world if he's missing an arm and his lungs.
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Feb 19, 2016 18:11
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I kind of had a real problem with Snart's characterization this episode. He's all 'never leave a man behind' and 'I don't betray my team mates' but in his first appearance on Flash he iced a fellow thief on his 'team' because he freaked out when the Flash showed up and wanted to quit. He killed Deathbolt when he was about to kill the Flash even though he was the one who told him and other metas to attack him, etc. Just really uneven, though I guess if you never watched Flash you wouldn't know.
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Feb 19, 2016 18:15
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greatn posted:I think he was saying this torture scene which we're supposed to take seriously is pretty similar to another torture scene that is a joke. Someone gets it! 
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Feb 19, 2016 18:19
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FELD1 posted:Literally the only character I don't like at this point is Kendra. Kendra is a million times better without Carter constantly creeping on her and I think she'll come into her own nicely once they actually give her some extended action on one of the weekly rotating teams. Then again I'm a sucker for girls with wings 
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Feb 19, 2016 18:32
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I like how each time Rip confronts Savage, Rip drops more and more personal information for Savage to remember & act upon. Half expecting Rip to give out DOB's for his family during next encounter with Savage.
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Feb 19, 2016 18:42
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:I like how each time Rip confronts Savage, Rip drops more and more personal information for Savage to remember & act upon. "I will never allow you to be in that field on April 27, 2166 when you killed my family!"
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Feb 19, 2016 18:48
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That would be an amazing twist actually. Rip Hunter isn't his real name and that locket isn't pictures of his actual family. He's feeding Savage fake intel a decade at a time to set a trap.
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Feb 19, 2016 18:52
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greatn posted:That would be an amazing twist actually. Rip Hunter isn't his real name and that locket isn't pictures of his actual family. He's feeding Savage fake intel a decade at a time to set a trap. I was thinking more that Rip going back in time to stop Vandal is instrumental in Vandal taking over the world in 2166. It would be a Terminator (1) type closed-loop paradox.
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Feb 19, 2016 19:05
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Could somebody gif the part where Ray looks to Mick for help in the prison yard and Mick is just lovingly staring at the flame from the lighter.
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Feb 19, 2016 19:42
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Longbaugh01 posted:I truly and honestly am not sure why people bag on this show as much as they do. It has its missteps, but the performances alone have been worth it. It's so great! They've got so much freedom to play and show us cool things. The one thing I'm worried about is that they may be setting things up for a potential Sara/Rip romance and I'm very much not into that at all.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:49
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XboxPants posted:The one thing I'm worried about is that they may be setting things up for a potential Sara/Rip romance and I'm very much not into that at all. They apparently cast Ali Liebert as a love interest for Sara. She's "a 1950s housewife with a dark secret: she's a lesbian." That doesn't rule a Sara/Rip romance out per say, but...
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Feb 19, 2016 21:57
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Rip is on a mission to avenge his recently killed wife and child. It would be a little soon for him to jump back into a romance plot. With only 8 episodes left for the show, I don't think we will see any romance within the team.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:10
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TyrantWD posted:Rip is on a mission to avenge his recently killed wife and child. It would be a little soon for him to jump back into a romance plot. With only 8 episodes left for the show, I don't think we will see any romance within the team. I don't know. Ray and Rory seem to be developing some serious guy love.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:13
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Burning_Monk posted:I don't know. Ray and Rory seem to be developing some serious guy love. Mick looking at the flames while Ray was getting his rear end beat was pure subtext. Oh Ray, you poor innocent man. THere's gonna be a lot of 'funny hugs' in your future.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:18
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greatn posted:I think he was saying this torture scene which we're supposed to take seriously is pretty similar to another torture scene that is a joke. Yeah except that it wasn't.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:36
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Senerio posted:They apparently cast Ali Liebert as a love interest for Sara. She's "a 1950s housewife with a dark secret: she's a lesbian." That doesn't rule a Sara/Rip romance out per say, but... Hooooly poo poo that description, wow. Maybe... maybe they should have come up with another way to phrase that. I get the social context of the 1950s, but even still.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:50
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What makes the torture scene in Archer funny is that it takes a serious situation and then makes it ridiculous. A guy is tied up by his hands and electrocuted. That's not funny. What's funny is when you find out that it's training mission set up by the guy's mom, who is also his boss and gave him the codename "Duchess" after her beloved dead dog. That's the funny part. So the humor in the Archer scene has zero effect on the seriousness of the Legends of Tomorrow scene.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:51
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XboxPants posted:Hooooly poo poo that description, wow. Maybe... maybe they should have come up with another way to phrase that. I get the social context of the 1950s, but even still. I admit I paraphrased it because my memory is poo poo at the best of times.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:52
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This is definitely my favorite Arrowverse show right now. Now, if they could only make the main bad guy not job so hard every episode... hopefully they'll get someone more threatening next season.
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Feb 19, 2016 23:03
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greatn posted:That would be an amazing twist actually. Rip Hunter isn't his real name and that locket isn't pictures of his actual family. He's feeding Savage fake intel a decade at a time to set a trap. "Really, Ms Lance, wouldn't you start calling yourself 'Rip Hunter' if your parents had named you 'Booster Gold'?"
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Feb 19, 2016 23:05
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It's too bad Flash has so little to do with this show, the Russian lady was exactly the right levels of hot, crazy, and Soviet to be turned into Lady Flash.
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Feb 19, 2016 23:50
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Jack of Hearts posted:It's too bad Flash has so little to do with this show, the Russian lady was exactly the right levels of hot, crazy, and Soviet to be turned into Lady Flash. Yeah, let's just get a whiny little mope-bitch superhero-retard stuck on the show. loving Barry. Snart and cameo appearances from Cisco are the only Flash parts this show needs. Mick's cool-ish, but Snart's the only thing we NEED.
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Feb 19, 2016 23:57
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pentyne posted:Seriously, between the writing and the cast chemistry this is good even when its bad. I really hope it gets a second season or something to keep this group together. Maybe "Rip Hunter's Time Team" or something where they fight some of the Golden Age completely bonkers DC enemies jazzed up to be legit threats. Hell, they name-checked Per Degaton in Rip's first scene with the Time Master council. He'd be a great villain for a second season of this stuff. (For those of you not up on your comics: imagine Hitler with a time machine.)
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Feb 19, 2016 23:59
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WarLocke posted:I was thinking more that Rip going back in time to stop Vandal is instrumental in Vandal taking over the world in 2166. It would be a Terminator (1) type closed-loop paradox. The opening murder scene DID have a "coward like your father" line, which could be a random taunt about him not being there but takes a new context with all this time-hopping.
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Feb 20, 2016 00:14
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Jack of Hearts posted:It's too bad Flash has so little to do with this show, the Russian lady was exactly the right levels of hot, crazy, and Soviet to be turned into Lady Flash. Soviet Volcana Soviet Volcana Soviet Volcana
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Feb 20, 2016 00:36
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Catching up, and "This isn't my first prison break."  I love these shows.
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Feb 20, 2016 00:43
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Krad posted:This is definitely my favorite Arrowverse show right now. Now, if they could only make the main bad guy not job so hard every episode... hopefully they'll get someone more threatening next season. I'm a little skeptical about whether we will get another season. Given that it's an expensive show set in the Arrowverse, it is something of a flop in the ratings. The pilot premiered at a figure that would be an all time series low for the Flash, so it seems the viewers were never too interested in the concept to begin with. The show dipped below Arrow now, which just involves the cast spending 80% of the episode sitting around the same 3 sets and chatting. LoT may still be the 3rd highest rated show for the CW, but for the cost they could probably pick up another single titular hero show that would almost certainly deliver better ratings.
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Feb 20, 2016 01:21
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TyrantWD posted:, but for the cost they could probably pick up another single titular hero show that would almost certainly deliver better ratings. The Snart Files.
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Feb 20, 2016 01:35
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Jack of Hearts posted:It's too bad Flash has so little to do with this show, the Russian lady was exactly the right levels of hot, crazy, and Soviet to be turned into Lady Flash. I would totally let them off the hook if the writers said that her explosion gave her speed force powers (?somehow?) and also knocked her forward through time into the year 2016 (????somehow????).
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Feb 20, 2016 01:38
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It's average is right around a 1 in the key demo, which is tied with Arrow for second on the CW. So the ratings are good enough to warrant a renewal. e: which is all stuff already said. Still, I don't think a "singular" cape show would be appreciably cheaper, and I don't think that will enter into the renew/cancel decision.
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Feb 20, 2016 01:41
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howe_sam posted:It's average is right around a 1 in the key demo, which is tied with Arrow for second on the CW. So the ratings are good enough to warrant a renewal. It dipped below Arrow to 0.8 this week. I'd expect any other DC show they attempt to do better than that.
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Feb 20, 2016 02:39
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They seem to maybe, and already, be planning to do a whole new (or different) team roster for a second season if there is one, so that would be a way to cut costs, and they might scale back the scope. Then again, that sucks because the current cast is the best part 
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Feb 20, 2016 02:55
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TyrantWD posted:It dipped below Arrow to 0.8 this week. I'd expect any other DC show they attempt to do better than that. Arrow did a .9 this week, that's not really all that much better.
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Feb 20, 2016 04:57
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TyrantWD posted:It dipped below Arrow to 0.8 this week. I'd expect any other DC show they attempt to do better than that.
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Feb 20, 2016 06:25
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Sara is the worst assassin.
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Feb 20, 2016 07:08
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Cute n Popular posted:Sara is the worst assassin. That's like kinda the point of why she wanted out of the League.
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I think that the show doing half seasons will help get it renewed for longer than it would otherwise. Despite the higher special effects and costuming budget that (I assume) this show requires, it helps that there are less episodes to actually write and film.
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