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Aesop Poprock posted:I bought Witcher 3 from Walmart and I've seen it at Target so yeah It's just amazing how a decade ago it would be an AO game for the nudity and sex, but now, how gives a gently caress? It also may be because video games have gotten to a point were they aren't automatically thought of as just for kids, and so they're looked upon like movies.
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twistedmentat posted:It's just amazing how a decade ago it would be an AO game for the nudity and sex, but now, how gives a gently caress? It also may be because video games have gotten to a point were they aren't automatically thought of as just for kids, and so they're looked upon like movies. I think corporations have started to pay attention to the fact that most gamers are around like 35-40 now or whatever that statistic was and have reacted accordingly. Unless it's specifically a kids game you also rarely see videogame ads focused on a below-18 crowd anymore
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Plus the fact that any new, big media will be scrutinized and demonized to death. For video games, it's the same story as violent movies, rock and roll, and everything that may upset the status quo. For fuckssake, electric guitars were considered tools of the Devil less than 75 years ago.
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Aesop Poprock posted:I think corporations have started to pay attention to the fact that most gamers are around like 35-40 now or whatever that statistic was and have reacted accordingly. Unless it's specifically a kids game you also rarely see videogame ads focused on a below-18 crowd anymore Also, kids get all of their game news from Youtube and streamers these days.
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twistedmentat posted:I was thinking earlier about how quickly nudity and sex became acceptable in games. GTA San Andreas cost Rockstar 80 million due to the Hot Coffee thing, something that wasn't accessible without mods and wasn't even explicit. Now you can play Witcher 3 and have HBO level sex scenes and casual nudity, or Stick of Truth with full on swinging ball sacks. One of the interesting things about censorship and moral panics is that they often seem super quaint as the shocking thing becomes normal. For example, look at Mortal Kombat 1, which was a big deal as far as violence in video games, and eventually led to current game ratings in the US as Sega chose to start their own rating compared to Nintendo who decided to censor. But there were constant articles, congressional hearings, and so on and so on. For this:   if you're Tipper Gore.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyIK_Vnbl4 Now, compare that to Mortal Kombat X, released just last year, which didn't really attract all that much attention and handwringing: it's the loving fatalities video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YxPFw7lfY0 Like I don't even like watching this at all, partially because I've grown up a little, and partially because it's so much more visceral than I want to see. Seriously, a game like Mortal Kombat 1 would seem a little violent and gory, but I'd be fine with my teenager playing it. They would not get to play Mortal Kombat X without serious discussion and convincing me they are as mature as they think they are and serious followup on how much they play and what they take away from it. And I'd still be really unhappy they want to play it. I'm old.  Anyway, as I mentioned, Nintendo in the NES and SNES days were very harsh censors and held games to a high standard. This was on purpose just the same as it being called the Nintendo Entertainment System and coming with a gun and/or robot, Nintendo was responding to the recent crash of console games in the US where Atari pumped out too much poo poo, treated their programmers like poo poo, and could not control 3rd party developers. When people reminisce about the Atari 2600, they're really reminiscing about Activision games, which tended to be much better quality. Or they were weirdos who had bought Custer's Revenge because drat if native rapin' isn't fun. (It's not.) So Nintendo strictly limited what could be in games and limited publishers in the number of games they could make in a year. Sure companies like Konami just made shell companies like Ultra Games so they could make Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (huh huh shell company  ), and there's plenty of dreck on the NES and SNES, but it helped reignite the console industry (which will probably die again after this generation, imo). I mention this because one of the things that you should read on game censorship is The Expurgation of Maniac Mansion, where Douglas Crockford, who managed the NES port of the popular Maniac Mansion explains what Nintendo complained about. In short, Maniac Mansion was a campy game aimed at adults and teenagers, probably at the level of a PG-13 movie or so. But to get Nintendo to accept it required a great deal of changes in bizarre ways. But hey, at least they gave it a kick-rear end soundtrack!e: Oh, and he mentions the hamster. You steal a hamster during the game, and two of the characters are sick enough to put it in the microwave, and obviously kill it. It did not get caught the first time Nintendo looked at it, and it shipped with it, and then they found out about it and forced a recall and rerelease. foobardog has a new favorite as of 07:30 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Haha poo poo these are brutal as hell. I think it's more that the characters are talking to each other and screaming in agony that makes it way more intense. I did love Jax saying "I'm gonna knock you on your butt" and following that up by shoving a woman's ribs through her eye socket
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As far as I'm aware, It's a huge oversimplification at best. Simulated child porn isn't allowed. Which includes porn images/films that are manipulated or rendered to look like children or have adults depicted as children. There's debate about the extent of that law. Whether it is right to criminalise something that's victimless, whether simulations increase demand for genuine pornography, whether it encourages or discourages people from victimising children, etc. Especially when it does involve photo/video of adults that are of age, because the test for whether or not they appear underage is ultimately subjective. There isn't a statutory cup size requirement for porn in Australia, just a subjective 'I know it when I see it' test in the classification scheme for adults being depicted as kids in pornography. Some public debate about this happens, maybe a press release from the Sex Party or something and thanks to some lovely clickbait reporting of it on social media people will parrot that small breasts are banned.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Haha poo poo these are brutal as hell. I think it's more that the characters are talking to each other and screaming in agony that makes it way more intense. I did love Jax saying "I'm gonna knock you on your butt" and following that up by shoving a woman's ribs through her eye socket I dunno, I thought that the fatalities were silly in the pixel Mortal Kombats and... not fun in MKX. It's like, MKX fatalities are the TVTropes version of Mortal Kombat fatalities. A bunch of perverted shitheads who don't understand proportion or style got together and said "we're gonna do the same thing but so much darker and edgier" and no-one told them that Fatalities were meant to be the punchline in a longer sequence, rather than a whole self-contained joke.
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Inzombiac posted:For fuckssake, electric guitars were considered tools of the Devil less than 75 years ago. Don't forget that Jazz was seen as utterly corrupting back in the 1920s and 30s with black Jazz musicians high on jazz cigarettes (ie weed) and of course the Nazis' distaste for Negermusik and the Jazz-loving Swing Kids who rebelled with their admiration of British-American dress, dance, music, and sexuality. Sexuality in particular has been the eternal enemy of conservatives and fascists alike! 
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Somfin posted:I dunno, I thought that the fatalities were silly in the pixel Mortal Kombats and... not fun in MKX. It's like, MKX fatalities are the TVTropes version of Mortal Kombat fatalities. A bunch of perverted shitheads who don't understand proportion or style got together and said "we're gonna do the same thing but so much darker and edgier" and no-one told them that Fatalities were meant to be the punchline in a longer sequence, rather than a whole self-contained joke. Yeah, it's not that they're too realistic (because they're not at all) or too gory (because they're not really any worse than the old ones in that regard), they're just not funny. They go on too long and they seem to be intended seriously. Like, in the old 2D games you'd get stuff like Raiden shooting someone with lightning and then their head explodes, whereas in this one he grabs them by the head, forces them to their knees, zaps them until their eyes pop out, then rips off their head, throws it in the air and then shoots it with lightning to make it explode. It's like they brainstormed their fatality ideas and then just used every idea they came up with all at once. The old ones were gory and extremely violent, and the new ones are still absurd and over-the-top, but the old ones worked much better because they were quick. It was this sudden bit of absurdity at the end of the fight, rather than an extended sequence. If you want to make a longer sequence like that work, it has to escalate, but these don't, they start out as the goriest, most violent thing they could think of, and then they just keep doing that for a while. There's no build up, no punch line.
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One I just remembered is the radio edit for Major Lazer's Lean On. Blow a kiss,  It's really blatantly out of place too.
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Samovar posted:Yes, indeedy. Though, considering I spent a lot of my life in a city where headbutts are one of our main exports, I can understand that the BBFC was a wee bitty cagey on them. Apparently in the late 70s/early 80s, there was a spate of gangs going around town centres and beating people up with the weapons inspired by a certain Bruce Lee flick. I say "apparently" because the UK media have never shied away from the occasionally overblown moral panics that got high sales for the longest time, and the idea that these incredibly difficult-to-use weapons were somehow more deadly than pocket knives. As any upstanding and over-reactionary Tory government would do, all mentions of nunchuks and ninjas was henceforth banned, leading to many films blacklisted up until 1997, culminating in things like  or a version of Soul Edge/Blade (which was followed by Soul Calibur) with a nunchuk-using character using a weird staff that breaks up into three parts.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:The late Umberto Eco would have a few choice words on this. Kind of. The short of that was that Carlin was charged with obscenity for what he had said on the radio. It went to the SCOTUS which made decisions on what could be censored and where. Anything publicly broadcast (i.e, radio and TV you could pick up with an antenna) could be regulated by the FCC. Things privately broadcast (cable) could not be regulated as hard. Things on basic cable were often also just plain broadcast for quite a while so you had to be careful about what you showed there but things that were pay cable only (especially pay per view or premium channels) could get away with a lot more because they weren't publicly broadcast. This is what led to channels like HBO and Cinemax being able to show so much more than other channels could and why Cinemax got nicknamed Skinemax. You could show tits and violence all day every day because they weren't publicly broadcast.
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Is that why so many of Carlin's comedy presentations were HBO specials?
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Remember, if you can shoehorn in a line of dialogue, now it's all okay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4ghsv04V0 Also the next dimension is where you go when you die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BffZ0vjMH2I
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Is that why so many of Carlin's comedy presentations were HBO specials? Part of it. Broadcast channels run by like CBS or ABC or whoever could never, ever get away with doing that. Easier to access channels that were more popular possibly could have but weren't going to risk it because while they may have been able to dodge legal troubles there were social expectations, which is part of why censorship is so bizarre on TV. The threat of "why the gently caress did you put that on TV? I'm angry and will watch other channels now" is huge. Aside from that the singular worst thing you can do to a channel is switch away from it so if parents saw something they didn't want their kids to see it was clicking to a different channel, which must be avoided at all costs. However, "family friendly" is a nebulous term at best. The legal requirements are pretty clear but the social ones are not. You also didn't want people surfing into your channel at that exact moment somebody said "gently caress" so you purged any and all times the word cropped up. Same with tits; you didn't want somebody's kids to just happen to change the channel at exactly the time a boob happened to pop on screen. You could avoid seeing the stuff that HBO or Cinemax had on by just, you know, not buying the channel. Kids can't watch it if it isn't even there. You might not think that a single, random instance of a bad word is a huge deal but there is potential for thousands or millions of people to just happen to tune in at that exact moment and go "wow, no." HBO got a reputation for having adulter content on it so it wasn't as huge of a deal if somebody swore on HBO. Same with how Comedy Central got away with South Park; it was perfectly legal but because they were Comedy Central they could just say "hey well it's a really popular funny show and that's the sort of thing we do so...are you surprised, really?" Pretty sure they were also never a broadcast thing ever, even though they came with a lot of cable subscriptions. Because HBO never bothered constructing a family friendly image in the first place so long as they never did something that was actually illegal they could just do whatever they wanted. HBO also has pretty deep pockets so they could afford to have huge names like Carlin do entire specials like that. Basically the conditions were perfect for Carlin specials to happen there and nowhere else. That's actually why you still see HBO comedian specials. Granted another side of that is HBO has been doing that for quite some time so now it's like "hey here is a thing we're good at doing that makes everybody involved money...let's just keep doing it." My understanding of the legality of it is fuzzy at best (insert "I am not a lawyer disclaimer" here) but the social pressure for censorship is actually much heavier than the legal pressure.
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Tiggum posted:Yeah, it's not that they're too realistic (because they're not at all) or too gory (because they're not really any worse than the old ones in that regard), they're just not funny. They go on too long and they seem to be intended seriously. Like, in the old 2D games you'd get stuff like Raiden shooting someone with lightning and then their head explodes, whereas in this one he grabs them by the head, forces them to their knees, zaps them until their eyes pop out, then rips off their head, throws it in the air and then shoots it with lightning to make it explode. It's like they brainstormed their fatality ideas and then just used every idea they came up with all at once. I came in to post basically this. The old ones were under 5 seconds long, so it was more like killing your fallen opponent in the most expedient way possible. The MKX ones keep going for about three times as long so they have more of a sadistic feel to them as your character just keeps on dismembering their opponent. Not to mention that when I finally get around to playing it, I'm not going to want to bother sitting through that long-rear end animation every match. I did think the comments on Cassie's selfie were funny though. Kano: A/S/L? Sonya: Why is Kano on your friends list?
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Buckets posted:The episode Heart of Ice also featured a scene where Mr. Freeze points his gun directly at the camera which was apparently a big no-no for cartoons too. Considering in 1903 audience members reportedly fainted at this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hknJkYN5dqQ Speaking of cartoon censorship. http://www.newsfromme.com/2008/12/11/scrappy-days-part-five/ quote:...Censorship of broadcast television has declined greatly in the era of HBO, Showtime and DVDs…but in the early eighties, if you were creating a show for CBS, NBC or ABC you usually found yourself in the following dilemma. You had to please the Programming People who bought the show and prayed for ratings. They wanted your program to be edgy and sexy and full of action and excitement. And then you had to please the Standards and Practices People. They wanted your show to be nice and quiet and non-controversial. The two divisions rarely spoke with one another. In fact, in some cases, they hated each other too much to converse. Either way, they fought their battles by playing tug-o'-war with you and your show.
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Cat Hatter posted:I came in to post basically this. The old ones were under 5 seconds long, so it was more like killing your fallen opponent in the most expedient way possible. The MKX ones keep going for about three times as long so they have more of a sadistic feel to them as your character just keeps on dismembering their opponent. Not to mention that when I finally get around to playing it, I'm not going to want to bother sitting through that long-rear end animation every match. I like to think that, in doing the extended gory fatalities, MK is doing it with a knowing wink and a smile at how ridiculously over-the-top it is.
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The Cassie Cage ones are legit hilarious, but I can definitely see it on the others.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I like to think that, in doing the extended gory fatalities, MK is doing it with a knowing wink and a smile at how ridiculously over-the-top it is. "Hey, did you get the joke? Because we're going to keep doing it until it isn't a joke anymore"
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Cat Hatter posted:"Hey, did you get the joke? Because we're going to keep doing it until it isn't a joke anymore" I think it's more that the series has gone on so long that they've just run out of ideas, and they have to go for the bizarre/sadistic-feeling ones simply because they've done all the low-hanging fruit already and don't want to rehash.
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Nckdictator posted:Considering in 1903 audience members reportedly fainted at this... Wow, this just got me to briefly root for Scrappy Doo.
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I like what Nintendo did with Sub-zero's fatality. It's more fitting.
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Last year I read a pretty great book on the development of the Comics Code and the moral panic against comics called THE TEN-CENT PLAGUE:The Great Comic-Book Scare and How It Changed America. The Comics Code is pretty laughable and almost universally derided for good reason, and the effect it had on the industry was devastating. That said as I've been reading more,and more pre-code works the more nuanced my view on the Comics Code becomes. I mean, a lot of the Golden Age comics were pretty hosed up and the fact that an 6 year old could buy them just seems iffy. Some sort of system saying something like "X,Y,and Z Are in this book, keep that in mind before reading" was needed but the Comics Code was just too heavyhanded. (Examples of pre-code stuff below, I love them but their not something I'd want my hypothetical first-grader reading)   ___________________________________            ________________________________________________        1944 anti-comic editorial http://library.nd.edu/documents/catholic_pamphlets/texts/830115.txt quote:A large number of the comic books depict the heroic adventures of one or more characters whose philosophy may only be described as un-American and in a few instances, anarchistic. The vigilante spirit is rife in the comics: the gestapo method is glorified. A plot-pattern is used by many scriptwriters with a self-imposed mission to correct injustices, to eradicate evil and its practitioners. Throughout subsequent episodes he will be shown ferreting out criminals, determining their guilt, pronouncing judgment, inflicting punishment-usually capital-upon them, all this without reference to due processes of law. Always, in these sequences, the offenses committed by the malefactors are portrayed in such detail · as to constitute a veritable handbook of criminal tecniques for impressionable young readers. An important part of what we proudly esteem as "The American Way" has to do with our lawfully established methods of dealing with lawbreakers. We set up and maintain police organizations;.prosecuting attorneys, grand juries, judges and trial juries, and have created an elaborate series of safeguards to assure that no man, however grave his offense, shall be tried, convicted, and punished except by due process of law.
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Dr Christmas posted:Wow, this just got me to briefly root for Scrappy Doo. quote:He sold his jade green Rolls Royce and his mansion in Hancock Park and spent the rest of his life in peace and love with a newly-started family in Chile. That's right: Chile. He used to phone me at least once a week to chat and tell jokes, and he was obviously very happy there. He passed away in 2006. I'm really glad the actor who played him got a happy ending. 
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Anyone familiar with John Fowles' novel The Collector? It's basically about a butterfly collector who sees a beautiful woman and decides to "collect" her. He keeps her in a special room in his basement for the sole purpose of having her, and after she dies of pneumonia (iirc), he decides to collect another woman. Well, when they adapted it into a film in 1965, the director filmed an ending where the killer still gets away with it. According to IMDb: IMDb posted:...However, John Trevelyan, the censor, who had recently married a woman about half his age, nodded off during the screening, and never saw the ending of the film. He woke up and signed off on it. Had he been awake, we might have had a very different film, or people "might have been arrested".
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Cat Hatter posted:I came in to post basically this. The old ones were under 5 seconds long, so it was more like killing your fallen opponent in the most expedient way possible. The MKX ones keep going for about three times as long so they have more of a sadistic feel to them as your character just keeps on dismembering their opponent. Not to mention that when I finally get around to playing it, I'm not going to want to bother sitting through that long-rear end animation every match. I like the pre fight dialog between her and Jacqui "I just said your dad was kind of hot". Is everyone in MKX parents and kids? But yea, they feel just mean rather than an "oh gross!' moment. They're very cruel and drawn out. Nckdictator posted:Last year I read a pretty great book on the development of the Comics Code and the moral panic against comics called THE TEN-CENT PLAGUE:The Great Comic-Book Scare and How It Changed America. The Comics Code is pretty laughable and almost universally derided for good reason, and the effect it had on the industry was devastating. That said as I've been reading more,and more pre-code works the more nuanced my view on the Comics Code becomes. This was the era where Batman ran around with guns and threw people out of windows. More Frank Castle than Bruce Wayne. It's actually kind of amazing how the comic book Moral Panic occurred. Dr Fredric Wertham who specialized in dealing with troubled kids, mostly from poor and Minor neighborhoods found that the kids he worked with all shared a love of comic books, and in the standards of the day, he came to believe that the cause of their problem was from reading comics, rather than their environment. It's not unlike blaming video games or heavy metal/rap music for lovely kid behaviors. The comic companies worried government action may be taken, they took it upon themselves to create the code. Dr Wertham actually thought the Code was stupid and didn't deal with the problems he pointed out. Comics still had murders and monsters, but now things were not violent and cute. There were weird things in pre code comics, like was posted. There was actually how to pages about things like lockpicking and how to tie someone up (these were actually copied out of US Army training manuals by WW2 vets that were writing and drawing comics). The Death of the code is pretty amusing. Marvel dropped it ages ago, but DC kept sending their books in until the late 90s. The funny thing is the Code wasn't even being enforced. One woman was responsible for checking comics, and she was barely doing her job out of indifference. And the code wasn't really important once the primary place to buy comics was comic stores, as when it was first introduced people mostly bought comics from corner and grocery stores. There's two really good sources I can think of about the code and its effect. One is the documentary Comic Book Confidential, which goes heavily into the evoution of comics, from the publication of landmarks like Famous Funnies and Action comics, the moral panic, the code and the rise of underground and indie comics. The other is the Mad Magazine history, which is important because Mad is a direct result of the rise of comics and the code. EC produced some of the best Horror, Crime, Mystery and Weird comics of the era, and therefor one of the major targets of congressional hearings on the subject. MAD, being a magazine enabled them to ignore the code and just do whatever they wanted.
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twistedmentat posted:I like the pre fight dialog between her and Jacqui "I just said your dad was kind of hot". Is everyone in MKX parents and kids? Yeah, most of the new MKX characters are kids of the old ones, which makes some of the fatalities even more awkward. It's weird cause there's kinda a tonal dissonance thing going on cause MK9 is super cartoonish whereas X is trying to be dark and edgy, so it's just uncomfortable. How violence is treated and used in games is kinda fascinating to me; the ratings systems are pretty strict on even bloodless violence if it's realistic, so most FPS games here are rated high, but I think that gives developers a kind of freedom in a way - if they know they're getting rated 16 regardless for making a shooter, they might as well use it.
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Spotify normally has both the censored and uncensored versions of songs so sometimes I end up hearing a weirdly censored version of a song. Killer Mike's "Anywhere But Here" lyrics are: http://genius.com/800632 The censored words in the Spotify version are: Sour Diesel Batman drugs The first makes sense (it's a strain of marijuana apparently), I can only assume Batman is a branding thing which is weird, especially if you're going to leave in Gotham, and then "drugs" is quite odd given it's context ("They raided a house, no drugs were ever found") is no worse than a news report. The swearing gets through though. I've also come across the suicide of "suicide doors" being censored as well as some songs where things like "goddamn" gets censored. It's all somewhat bizarre, Spotify's take is that they'll take whatever versions they are given by rights owners so I guess they end up with a grab bag of censored versions at various levels.
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The censored version of Twins on youtube is hilarious They use a bunch of different sound effects, but sometimes just mute/echo stuff. And the random stuff that doesn't get censored. And at least one line isn't censored every time (Joey cracks the rock and big pun keeps the gun cocked). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiwvPmRTv6M
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Another oldie but goodie was the clear channel censored version of What It's Like by Everlast, so many things get censored the song ends up sounding much worse than the actual one because of all the random words that didn't really need to be bleeped.
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Panfilo posted:I recall a Metal Slug game or games that made all the blood white. It didn't make the game any less gory, it just made enemies explode in a jizz shockwave which ended up being even more cartoony and ridiculous. As for Mortal Kombat, I've been a fan of the series since the 90s and almost completely desensitized to video game violence, but I really don't enjoy watching the drawn-out MKX fatalities at all and never bother to do them. I prefer my MK games colorful, with comical amounts of bright red pixelated blood flying all over the place and cheesy digitized fighters exploding into showers of entirely too many skulls and ribcages. I want more of that, not realistic blood physics and surgical levels of detail.
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Thanks for the 10,000 views! I appreciate the popularity this topic has gotten on PYF. That being said, what are all of your views on censorship in general? While I agree that there should be parental controls on what kind of content the young children of parents are allowed to see, in general I support keeping content free of censorship. Generally, if good media is made with sexuality or violence as part of its message, it's best to keep the authors' original message intact. By deleting or modifying the work, you lose the intent or impact the work is meant to make. See: Goodfellas, Scarface, etc as another poster mentioned. Without their violence in these cases, these movies lose their meaning. Being uncomfortable is a good thing. If we do not flex the boundaries we are comfortable with, society is worse off in the long run. On that note, I disagree with Germany's censorship of violence and Nazism. If we do not talk about these things and explore these topics in our art, we allow them to flourish in the darker corners of society where there is no oversight. Teriyaki Koinku has a new favorite as of 07:58 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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In all seriousness, what the hell is the point of ratings, especially ones centred around the age at which you theoretically become an adult who is mature enough to make their own choices, if you're going to arbitrarily remove things or ban media for being inappropriate anyway? Lookin' at you especially with that last point, ACB.  And if you're censoring things because they're inappropriate for kids, maybe the media in question wasn't originally intended for consumption by kids?
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Thin Privilege posted:This is my favorite. It's nowhere near sexy, even with this weird bondage poo poo which I believe is some mod also. That bedroom is in the game, I haven't played SA for a long time but one of the characters lives there. From memory you date the girl to steal her keycard so you can rob a rival traids casino or something and she's into kinky poo poo. underage at the vape shop has a new favorite as of 08:04 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:That bedroom is in the game, I haven't played SA for a long time but one of the characters lives there.
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Feb 23, 2016 08:15
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TV Version of Robocop is by far my favourite, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWRzVyEv_lw but I have a soft spot for this classic one-liner from Die Hard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMU-tCiWncw I find it hilarious how the word God or Jesus is sometimes dubbed in some old US movies. "Geez Louise, Doc, you disintegrated Einstein!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zLXaA1J_4 beato has a new favorite as of 11:53 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Feb 23, 2016 11:48
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:That being said, what are all of your views on censorship in general? While I agree that there should be parental controls on what kind of content the young children of parents are allowed to see, in general I support keeping content free of censorship. I'm generally pretty dead set against it. I'm not a huge fan of violence in media but sex is cool and good and people should calm their tits about it, even about children watching. I'm not sure what people think the downside to kids seeing/hearing about sex is exactly but I grew up as an insomniac with cable in my bedroom. Watching shows like Sex Files, Sex, Toys and Chocolate, Kink and at least a few others I don't remember the names of starting when I was 7 or 8ish had no negative effects that I can discern. If it had any effect at all it was to demystify and normalize sex which I feel is healthy in a culture that has a bizarre mixture of tabooizing and obsessing over sex. I really have no idea what people think will happen if kids see nudity or sex, and that's even before you get to the insanity of associating nudity with sex inherently (or opposing nudity for its own sake, just why? what could possibly be the harm?). Censoring, or giving any fucks whatever, about swearing is at least as baffling. Violence is the only area where censorship makes anything approaching sense. I still oppose it, let people decide for themselves or the parents decide for their kids, but I can at least understand why people would want to limit it or inform that media contains it.
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