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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

goat manilla posted:

What this millennial bitch doesn't apparently realize is that once you enter the workforce YOU WILL EAT poo poo for like 10 years. It's not about how qualified you probably are, after all you just spent 10 years in college. These loving hipster millennial freegans spend the first half of their adult life in college telling themselves they're doing something positive and investing in their future. They wake up on a couch, floor or god forbid THEIR actual bed for 10 years putting off term papers until the day before and living life that way thinking, "oh the workforce is just this except I probably have to have a set schedule". You could be a senior in college for 3 years the whole time thinking "I'm at the top!" or "so this is what being on top feels like!". One lucky day she gets an entry level hipster job where she will finally get to post food LOLs. Guess what, bitch. Now you're at the bottom! The guy that's worked his way up to Wendy's management while you were "bettering your future" for 10 years has more money in his 401k than money you've earned to date. But he's the chode, right? He's the one that "didn't make it", right?
When are we going to stop letting people think that their liberal arts degree is going to change the world? Why do we provide support for insufferable hipsters who sign their letters to their boss with their own tears? gently caress you, insufferable hipster girl! SUCK IT, COOCH!!

To be fair though the baby boomer generation instilled in the millennials when they were young that you had to go to college in order to get a job where you can support yourself. Once you get out of college you are good to go for getting that mythical unicorn of a job that lets you live on your own with a really good salary to live your life how you see fit. That was maybe true in the 90s (if it was true at all) but it is not anymore.

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City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
there is so much to hate in this story I don't know where to start

people are underpaid, this insufferable spoiled woman has a point. Yelp could probably pay all their worker drones a living wage and still be just fine. Obnoxious brats like this woman just make it harder to get that point to sink in to society tho

tomatoes and shit
Sep 17, 2015

I said come in! posted:

Once you get out of college you are good to go for getting that mythical unicorn of a job that lets you live on your own with a really good salary to live your life how you see fit.
lol what nursery rhyme or bedtime story stipulated this

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

City of Tampa posted:

there is so much to hate in this story I don't know where to start

people are underpaid, this insufferable spoiled woman has a point. Yelp could probably pay all their worker drones a living wage and still be just fine. Obnoxious brats like this woman just make it harder to get that point to sink in to society tho

this is a good post


fakiebeanplant posted:

lol what nursery rhyme or bedtime story stipulated this

did you not go to US public school in the last 20 years or what? the amount of propaganda aimed at kids to convince them either they are college bound or worthless really is amazing.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

What benefit is there for a start up company to operate in San Francisco anyways? Why not somewhere in the midwest or like Arizona, Utah, and Nevada where it's really cheap to live and operate a business?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

fakiebeanplant posted:

lol what nursery rhyme or bedtime story stipulated this

I was always told this in middle school and high school. Every teacher told me I had to go to college or the best I could do is flip hamburgers. The reality is that even with a bachelors degree the best someone can do is work in a office and still only make minimum wage.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




FishionMailed posted:

also,

Percent of high school grads that went on to college in 1966 was 50.1%, starts to get to 60% by the 80s.
Today it is 65% (low income hs grads are at 45.5%)

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d99/d99t187.asp

Yeah, and the high school dropout rate in 1960 was 27%, and it is 7% now. I imagine very few high school dropouts go on to get a college degree. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779196.html

if 50% of the 73/100 high school grads got degrees that would be 36.5/100. While 65% of 93/100 is 60.5/100. So out of 100 people of appropriate age, almost twice as many are getting college degrees now.

An English Lit degree was likely never the road to easy street, even 50 years ago. That's why she would have been looking for a husband, not a job. The english lit degree would be useful for making witty conversation and looking cultured at dinner parties. Her prospective husband would either have been getting a useful degree, or he would be from a rich enough family that his degree didn't matter.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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fakiebeanplant posted:

lol what nursery rhyme or bedtime story stipulated this

The same one that said if you owned your own home you could sell it and retire on the proceeds. Just lots and lots of hold over poo poo from the great depression that happened to work that one because of a giant world loving war that pumped billions into the US economy.

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

I said come in! posted:

What benefit is there for a start up company to operate in San Francisco anyways? Why not somewhere in the midwest or like Arizona, Utah, and Nevada where it's really cheap to live and operate a business?

lol those places aren't over-priced, over-regulated, with lovely weather and terrible earthquake risk, why would you want to live there?

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

Angela Christine posted:

Yeah, and the high school dropout rate in 1960 was 27%, and it is 7% now. I imagine very few high school dropouts go on to get a college degree. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779196.html

if 50% of the 73/100 high school grads got degrees that would be 36.5/100. While 65% of 93/100 is 60.5/100. So out of 100 people of appropriate age, almost twice as many are getting college degrees now.

An English Lit degree was likely never the road to easy street, even 50 years ago. That's why she would have been looking for a husband, not a job. The english lit degree would be useful for making witty conversation and looking cultured at dinner parties. Her prospective husband would either have been getting a useful degree, or he would be from a rich enough family that his degree didn't matter.

my point here is not that college degrees were more valuable 50 years ago, my point is that even with a college degree today you can't find the caliber of job most high school grads could have found in the 60s but nevertheless college is increasingly more expensive and increasingly presented to kids as a necessity. You can't start entry level and work your way to the top anymore. Doesn't fuckin happen outside of some super marginal edge cases.

and 1960's number there is much much higher than the number for literally any other decade so imo it's kinda cherry picking to say that. Drop out rate in 1970 was half that and the chart doesn't say what it was in 1950

which btw is already kinda inconsequential given that if you were dropping out of hs in 1950-1970 it was because you were either going to a trade school or were a farmer or had work lined up already at the factory or something because again, the economy was radically different. Today you're just hosed.

FishionMailed fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Feb 22, 2016

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

goat manilla posted:

What this millennial bitch doesn't apparently realize is that once you enter the workforce YOU WILL EAT poo poo for like 10 years. It's not about how qualified you probably are, after all you just spent 10 years in college. These loving hipster millennial freegans spend the first half of their adult life in college telling themselves they're doing something positive and investing in their future. They wake up on a couch, floor or god forbid THEIR actual bed for 10 years putting off term papers until the day before and living life that way thinking, "oh the workforce is just this except I probably have to have a set schedule". You could be a senior in college for 3 years the whole time thinking "I'm at the top!" or "so this is what being on top feels like!". One lucky day she gets an entry level hipster job where she will finally get to post food LOLs. Guess what, bitch. Now you're at the bottom! The guy that's worked his way up to Wendy's management while you were "bettering your future" for 10 years has more money in his 401k than money you've earned to date. But he's the chode, right? He's the one that "didn't make it", right?
When are we going to stop letting people think that their liberal arts degree is going to change the world? Why do we provide support for insufferable hipsters who sign their letters to their boss with their own tears? gently caress you, insufferable hipster girl! SUCK IT, COOCH!!

Wow

That was something else

crabcakes66
May 24, 2012

by exmarx

Solice Kirsk posted:

The same one that said if you owned your own home you could sell it and retire on the proceeds. Just lots and lots of hold over poo poo from the great depression that happened to work that one because of a giant world loving war that pumped billions into the US economy.

Trillions. But yeah.

big trivia FAIL
May 9, 2003

"Jorge wants to be hardcore,
but his mom won't let him"

i showed my dad that the $3.25/hr he earned in 1972 was equivalent to $18.50/hr today and he actually changed his opinion re: "they want $15/hr to flip a burger? i worked for $3.25 at the saw mill" or whatever. a good dad.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

-S- posted:

i showed my dad that the $3.25/hr he earned in 1972 was equivalent to $18.50/hr today and he actually changed his opinion re: "they want $15/hr to flip a burger? i worked for $3.25 at the saw mill" or whatever. a good dad.

that's what I'm saying

the US domestic jobs back then were more available and paid better on average, even if you have a college degree today aside from the current hot STEM degree. that's just a true fact idk how people are disputing this.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

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access: PERMISSION DENIED.





City of Tampa posted:

there is so much to hate in this story I don't know where to start

people are underpaid, this insufferable spoiled woman has a point. Yelp could probably pay all their worker drones a living wage and still be just fine. Obnoxious brats like this woman just make it harder to get that point to sink in to society tho

Read her job description I just posted. Education requirements: NONE. Experience required: NONE. The only requirement to do her job is that you have a pulse. If you have that, you get 35k+benefits.

goat manilla
Nov 13, 2003

FishionMailed posted:

to be fair this is what you older assholes have been telling us since we were born

so really it's on you dumb gently caress Gen X druggie losers.

I'm a millennial! Just barely though (30). I guess if I wanted to sever completely I could consider myself genX.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

Pawn 17 posted:

Read her job description I just posted. Education requirements: NONE. Experience required: NONE. The only requirement to do her job is that you have a pulse. If you have that, you get 35k+benefits.

yeah but I bet if you don't have a degree/experience you're probably not getting hired over someone with a degree/experience


although given those requirements I'm a little more understanding of the salary. that's actually fairly nice anywhere outside of SF I think so gently caress her.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Here is a Yelp job specifically tailored for people fresh out of college: http://www.yelp.com/careers/job-ope...an-Francisco-CA but she wouldn't have qualified for this position.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
btw when did we start saying she worked at Yelp?

She worked at "eat24" according to the OP...

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

idiot lady could have moved to Phoenix, AZ instead but too late for that now http://www.yelp.com/careers/job-openings/4bd5dbb1-7fc5-4d4e-9a0d-b77b5609f2e0?description=Account-Manager-New-Grad_College-Sales_Phoenix-AZ

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

FishionMailed posted:

btw when did we start saying she worked at Yelp?

She worked at "eat24" according to the OP...

Yelp owns Eat24 if I am understanding it correctly. She was employed and paid by them or something like that.

goat manilla
Nov 13, 2003

I said come in! posted:

To be fair though the baby boomer generation instilled in the millennials when they were young that you had to go to college in order to get a job where you can support yourself. Once you get out of college you are good to go for getting that mythical unicorn of a job that lets you live on your own with a really good salary to live your life how you see fit. That was maybe true in the 90s (if it was true at all) but it is not anymore.

This is true.

If we only gave loans and grants to people who are in school for science, health, or engineering we probably wouldn't have hipsters. We have to remove the liberal arts degree from the roster of acceptable schooling.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
idk what linking job applications online is proving considering the youth unemployment rate is in the double digits? there's hundreds if not thousands of applicants for that position right now; it seems a bit disingenuous to link things and be like 'see she could have got this job!'

I mean poo poo I can link jobs I'm qualified for but I'll never get all day long.

I said come in! posted:

Yelp owns Eat24 if I am understanding it correctly. She was employed and paid by them or something like that.

oh

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




FishionMailed posted:

btw when did we start saying she worked at Yelp?

She worked at "eat24" according to the OP...


http://eat24.theresumator.com/apply/RYJu1C/Customer-Support-Specialist

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
in the end she just wanted to live in the Best State and I can't fault her too much for that

we're like a shining beacon calling all your young people to us, it's just too bad most of them can't hack it and end up moving to TX or AZ and saying they're from CA



eat my shorts 24/7

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Maybe she should apply for some publishing or journalism jobs. You know, positions that will look at an English Lit degree and say, "That sort of applies to this career".

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

I said come in! posted:

What benefit is there for a start up company to operate in San Francisco anyways? Why not somewhere in the midwest or like Arizona, Utah, and Nevada where it's really cheap to live and operate a business?

why in the world would you pick up a few hundred acres in idaho for like a grand and make a sweet rear end tech ranch when you could live in cardiff like doctor who

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
Cardiff CA is pretty nice I'd much rather be poor here than broke in Idaho

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


FishionMailed posted:

yeah but those dudes take poo poo waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously


I'm not defending her I'm saying sure she hosed up but I'm also saying 'what 20 something hasn't?' and 'that company is probably hosed up, too.'

Ya'll are always either all or nothing like she's Osama bin Laden and you're either with us or against us dangit. Maybe both parties in this situation are dumbasses?

I don't remember seeing any posters say they never made mistakes or never hosed up. The ire against her is because she concocted a sob-story where she is not at fault and is panhandling on the internet instead of accepting any responsibility whatsoever.

Just like I have not seen any posters saying that cost of living wages are a bad idea but if you go back and read the early pages of the thread that is all everyone in her support were talking about. The situation she created is just in no way comparable to a poor family that is actually stuck in poverty. One of her Instagram pictures is her using a liquor delivery service ffs but all people say is "chicken isn't expensive guys."

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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FishionMailed posted:

that's what I'm saying

the US domestic jobs back then were more available and paid better on average, even if you have a college degree today aside from the current hot STEM degree. that's just a true fact idk how people are disputing this.

who exactly was disputing it? from page one most people have been at the conclusion that you have only recently arrived at

FishionMailed posted:

so gently caress her.
but some people just get so hyped up on righteousness that they see any dissent from the crusade as bootstraps talk

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004


"All the water you can drink, for FREE"

At first I thought this was absurd, then I remembered this is California.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

Decrepus posted:

I don't remember seeing any posters say they never made mistakes or never hosed up. The ire against her is because she concocted a sob-story where she is not at fault and is panhandling on the internet instead of accepting any responsibility whatsoever.

Just like I have not seen any posters saying that cost of living wages are a bad idea but if you go back and read the early pages of the thread that is all everyone in her support were talking about.

Oh really that's what people are taking umbrage with? I couldn't tell between the 'waaaaaaaah' and the 'lol entitled millenial bitch' posts from the first few pages. I'll grant you I didn't read the whole thread very discerningly though.

Klyith posted:

who exactly was disputing it? from page one most people have been at the conclusion that you have only recently arrived at

but some people just get so hyped up on righteousness that they see any dissent from the crusade as bootstraps talk

the difference is I thought about it and reached that conclusion after conversing with you fellow goons, the dude that posted "waaaaaaaaah, I'm a 25 year old English major and I moved to San Francisco because I thought it was maaagiiiicalllll" within minutes of the thread being made seemed fairly on the millenial hate train to me.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


FishionMailed posted:

Oh really that's what people are taking umbrage with? I couldn't tell between the 'waaaaaaaah' and the 'lol entitled millenial bitch' posts from the first few pages. I'll grant you I didn't read the whole thread very discerningly though.

No one can ever blame you for this. lol

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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I hate yankees posted:

Most corporation scale pay based on geographic location to scale for cost of living adjustments. So, they generally refer to a primary dollar amount and adjust accordingly. NY, for example, at my company is about 2x higher than the base salary rate in dollars.

Yep. Back when I worked for Motorola they hosed up and somehow because my boss worked out of Chicago I was reclassified as a Schaumburg employee and got a loving 32% raise out of the god drat blue lmao (was living in Jim Bob Land at the time)

NObodiesGeek
Jun 14, 2003
I'm not shy, I just hate you.
I too like to base all of my decision making on emotions rather than fact. $100 minimum wage for all!

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien

City of Tampa posted:

there is so much to hate in this story I don't know where to start

people are underpaid, this insufferable spoiled woman has a point. Yelp could probably pay all their worker drones a living wage and still be just fine. Obnoxious brats like this woman just make it harder to get that point to sink in to society tho

this is all womens fault :mad:

I hate yankees
Apr 29, 2008

I said come in! posted:

Here is a Yelp job specifically tailored for people fresh out of college: http://www.yelp.com/careers/job-ope...an-Francisco-CA but she wouldn't have qualified for this position.

This is the kind of position a bachelors degree is supposed to be for. If you get an English lit degree and are not pursuing a masters/Ph.D. for teaching or working at a publisher or plan to go to law school, then you're an idiot. People seem to think their generic bullshit degree is comparable to other degrees, and they are not.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

EXTREME INSERTION posted:

this is all womens fault :mad:

Women in general are garbage human beings.

crabcakes66
May 24, 2012

by exmarx
As a penis-haver. Let me tell you about women.

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Aug 14, 2010

Jonny 290 posted:

Yep. Back when I worked for Motorola they hosed up and somehow because my boss worked out of Chicago I was reclassified as a Schaumburg employee and got a loving 32% raise out of the god drat blue lmao (was living in Jim Bob Land at the time)

Yeah ok but on the other hand youre like 49 years old and check this out:

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