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Makes sense. I think it may have been CG in some shots, but, yeah, generally they use a prop plane.
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Feb 23, 2016 18:46
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It was a seaplane, they saved him from the sea.
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Feb 23, 2016 19:09
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Superman Returns was so loving boring. It dragged and dragged and dragged. My pet hate from that movie was when the toy train set got all hosed up by Krypto Crystals and you could hear REAL loving PEOPLE SCREAMING as the toy train fell over.
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Feb 23, 2016 21:02
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Returns rules!
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Feb 23, 2016 23:01
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Return is super loving bad. It feels like one of those 'we've done everything else with Superman, lets subvert him' comics that accidentally got a 200 million dollar budget. That they spent growing corn. loving corn
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Feb 24, 2016 00:14
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Snowman_McK posted:Return is super loving bad. It feels like one of those 'we've done everything else with Superman, lets subvert him' comics that accidentally got a 200 million dollar budget. That they spent growing corn. loving corn During a drought in Australia.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:32
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Burkion posted:You know, if for no other reason, those drat covers are the reason Superman is the best super hero. Boy, if that's what animal husbandry meant visiting a ranch would be a hell of an experience.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:04
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DeimosRising posted:Boy, if that's what animal husbandry meant visiting a ranch would be a hell of an experience. "With a human" was added for a reason.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:11
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Superman Returns was praised when it came out and made more money than Batman Begins. It's a shame people have since turned on it so harshly. It set up a grim sequel: The Krypton chunk in space grows into a second moon orbiting Earth, which draws a Kryptonian visitor in a spaceship. After Superman shows him around Earth, the visitor intervenes in political events to stop a war. He pledges to share Kryptonian technology with humanity and to eradicate war, famine, and disease on Earth. Superman opposes this interference in human history, and humanity turns on Superman for withholding technology that could have solved the world's problems all these years. Superman eventually discovers that the visitor is Brainiac, an AI that was responsible for destroying Krypton. In the final battle, Brainiac downloads into the only other Kryptonian body on the planet: Superman's son. As with Christ, Superman has to sacrifice his son to save the world.
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Feb 24, 2016 03:28
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Superman Returns was so loving boring. It dragged and dragged and dragged. My pet hate from that movie was when the toy train set got all hosed up by Krypto Crystals and you could hear REAL loving PEOPLE SCREAMING as the toy train fell over. I've only seen like the last half hour of it but it feels like I've seen two hours of that movie.
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Feb 24, 2016 03:32
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Yeah maybe they should have made the interesting movie first. Instead of Lex Bialystock and his silent henchmen engaging another real estate scheme against Stalkerman.
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Feb 24, 2016 03:32
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Toady posted:Superman Returns was praised when it came out and made more money than Batman Begins. It's a shame people have since turned on it so harshly. It set up a grim sequel: Did that get revealed as the planned sequel or are you extrapolating from the broader details I've seen mentioned? Because that's pretty wild. Superman Returns was, btw, awesome, and I was disappointed it didn't get a sequel right up until Zack Snyder got handed the reboot and the franchise was obviously in the perfect hands. The airplane rescue sequence is still fantastic.
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Toady posted:Superman Returns was praised when it came out and made more money than Batman Begins. It's a shame people have since turned on it so harshly. It set up a grim sequel: And then in Superman Returns 3 unfortunately, Brainiac's calculations didn't cope adequately with the biology of Kal El's half-human, half-kryptonian son and his download attempt destroys both minds, leaving only a mostly incomplete and bizarre mind in what is left of the son's body, now supercharged by Brainiac's technology. The boy bears little resemblance to anything he was before, speaking in seemingly confused and convoluted phrases. Stealing one of Superman's uniforms so he can be a superhero just like his dad, he defaces the chest-piece and proceeds to accidentally murder cities worth of people under the guise of trying to help them. A little girl with a cat up a tree leads to the destruction of nine city blocks when he decides that it would be easier for the cat to climb upwards, rather than down, and buries everything under millions of tons of rubble. At each ground zero as he flies away he is heard to exclaim "Am worse than Superman, am Worst of all. No thanks." Superman, after several exploratory fights and attempts to communicate with his broken son, blah blah blah SlimGoodbody" posted:The plot arc culminates in Superman realizing that no amount of interposing will ever stop Bizarro from trying to do the right thing, just as no amount of interference would ever stop Superman from trying to do the right thing. We see Superman crying as he has to beat the life out of Bizarro, who doesn't understand what he's done. Superman doesn't want to do it, but it's a burden he has to bear in order to make the world safer. This stuff writes itself.
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Honestly, I think Superman Returns is more of a departure from what Superman fundamentally is than Man of Steel. The entire point of Superman as a character is that he's an everyman who happens to have godlike abilities. There's an inherent duality between his physical Kryptonian self and his very human upbringing and personality that I think Man of Steel pretty much nailed, but Returns completely missed; Returns made him entirely alien and detached from humanity, which just doesn't really work.
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Feb 24, 2016 04:22
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Toady posted:Superman Returns was praised when it came out Uhhhh not quite.
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Feb 24, 2016 05:05
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Yeah, my memory of the reaction was a whole bunch of 'ehhh, it's a movie, I guess?'
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Feb 24, 2016 05:08
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Yeah, I remember people generally placing it solidly in the middle: better than 3 and 4, not as good as 1 or 2.
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Feb 24, 2016 05:22
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Yeah people LIKED Superman Returns but no one thought it was incredible or the worst thing ever. And Brandon Routh would go on to star in the way worse comic book movie Dylan Dog.
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Feb 24, 2016 06:26
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Superman Returns just felt like sort of the greatest hits of the Donner Superman movies, just bigger. I could have sworn the filmmakers had said something like the development of their ideas for the film was so natural that they wrote it in a weekend... And I sort of think it shows. I sort of feel another problem with it, too, is that it's trying a bit too hard. It's got a bit too much 'style' to it when the world of the Donnor films felt a bit more grounded. You've got a miscast Lois Lane, I feel, who comes off as way too young. Even Routh as Superman/Clark feels a bit too young to play role as so established and gone a long time. One thing I wished they'd done with the film was try to incorporate the businessman Lex into it better, having him reinvent himself after the departure of Superman to be the new hero of Metropolis. The films never really did too much with that idea, while the animated series and comics had moved Lex beyond just mere criminal supervillainy for the last 20 some years by that point.
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Timby posted:His pieces have somehow gotten worse in each consecutive movie, too. You have to look really hard for it in First Avenger, but it's front and center in Age of Ultron and doesn't look any better in his helmet-less photos from Civil War. Wasn't First Avenger before it really started being noticeable, though? It was probably the last hurrah for Evans' natural do. Maybe Cavill will get lucky and it'll just stick him with a widow's peak that takes years to reach full slaphead, as opposed to poor Mark Strong being bald as a coot since before some goons were even born.
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Snowman_McK posted:Yeah, my memory of the reaction was a whole bunch of 'ehhh, it's a movie, I guess?' Despite its flaws, it received an average of 7/10 and was praised by critics. The conventional wisdom that it flopped is wrong; it performed better than Batman Begins. Many people don't understand why they dislike it, so they resort to simpler arguments like "Superman doesn't punch anybody."
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I remember being confused and disappointed by its omnipresent throwbacks to the Donner films. I was like, "wait, how nostalgic do you think I am for the 80's movies?" Because the answer was not very, and I thought it leaned way too hard on the assumption I was jonesing for another Donner movie.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:13
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Superman Returns at least had an awesome poster.
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Toady posted:Despite its flaws, it received an average of 7/10 and was praised by critics. The conventional wisdom that it flopped is wrong; it performed better than Batman Begins. Whether a film bombed or not isn't based on a film's performance, it's based on its profitability. Superman Returns got nearly the same box office returns as Batman Begins but it also cost $120m more therefore it was MUCH less profitable. Warner Bros were expecting it to make $500m worldwide but it made less than $400m so they cancelled the planned sequel.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:54
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Holy poo poo, $270 million for Superman Returns? They have to be counting the failed relaunches as part of that, right?
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Sir Kodiak posted:Holy poo poo, $270 million for Superman Returns? They have to be counting the failed relaunches as part of that, right? Yeah, they rolled in all those expenses -- notably all the money blown on developing Superman Lives -- into the final number. The actual production budget was about $200 million, as I recall. Edit: I think they also included the costs from Wolfgang Petersen's Batman vs. Superman, too. Timby fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Feb 24, 2016 19:58
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Sir Kodiak posted:Holy poo poo, $270 million for Superman Returns? They have to be counting the failed relaunches as part of that, right? Almost certainly.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Holy poo poo, $270 million for Superman Returns? They have to be counting the failed relaunches as part of that, right? Box Office Mojo puts the production budget at $270m, the-numbers.com puts it at $232m, Wikipedia puts it at $204m and IMDB puts it at $209m and $270m. Hollywood!!! 
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Feb 24, 2016 20:15
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Superman Returns got the shaft in a lot of ways. It wasn't perfect, but I liked it well enough and would have liked to of seen further sequels. Stoked about Man of Steel though and how that turned out so, eh, win some lose some.
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It's a sort of inversion of the just world fallacy, where fans are like "I didn't like it, therefore it must have lost money and been hated by everyone." See also: Ang Lee's Hulk.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:29
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https://twitter.com/BatmanvSuperman/status/702572716558159872
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Burkion posted:Superman Returns got the shaft in a lot of ways. It wasn't perfect, but I liked it well enough and would have liked to of seen further sequels. Man of Steel was so far ahead of SR in every single way. MoS for me was a great reintroduction to a lovable character while SR was a sequel to SM2 where he became a creepy isolated stalker.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's a sort of inverted of the just world fallacy, where fans are like "I didn't like it, therefore it must have lost money and been hated by everyone." See also: Ang Lee's Hulk. Someone recently tried to argue this to me when I mentioned that some of the recent supehero movies I liked were Iron Man 3 and The Dark Knight Rises, a pair of movies that grossed over a billion dollars each
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Feb 24, 2016 20:35
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Even Amazing Spider-Man 2, a movie I absolutely hated, made a fuckload of money.
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People are sick of superhero movies! (Movie based on fringe comic nerd property makes hundreds of millions instantly, again.)
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sean10mm posted:People are sick of superhero movies! The next Marvel/DC movie is going to be a flop, I'm sure of it this time!
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Feb 24, 2016 22:23
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Even Amazing Spider-Man 2, a movie I absolutely hated, made a fuckload of money. The one thing I still really respect about The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is how it has a stronger understanding of pro wrestling than like 99% of shows that do a pro wrestling episode or whatnot
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RBA Starblade posted:The next Marvel/DC movie is going to be a flop, I'm sure of it this time! Ask anyone outside CineD (and many in it) and it will be whatever Zack Snyder directs because manchildren hate him for some reason. Probably because he's a geek and can also tear a phone book in half without much effort. Or whatever DC puts out because they hate their heroes being heroes and hate fun because comic book movies got to be a certain way or something.
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