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jackofarcades posted:Yep. I think at this point the path to the nomination for Rubio is literally just getting it at the convention. I mean, Trump could collapse somehow but I don't see it happening. What would actually stop Trump voters from voting for him? At this point Trump needs to collapse on his own, I doubt very much after last night that Rubio has any appetite whatsoever for a bloody fight that would leave him paralyzed going up to Hilldog, assuming there would still be a republican party left at that point. Of course Rubio might flat out be done already because gently caress knows what he is doing with his campaign right now if he actually expects to win. VP/breakdown seem like the most likely candidates right now.
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the trump tutelage posted:That's exactly how he'll attack Hillary -- "I was one of those big money donors. I know how the system works. I know how politicians are bought and sold. I know how Hillary was bought and sold." I don't think that is going to play as well in the general election as it does now. At best he is going to prove to be equally as corrupt as Hillary. With Wall Street in particular, Trump is not going to be able to claim to be their adversary in the way Bernie can. If Trump and Hillary engage in a war on each others character, they will both lose. Again, it works for Bernie because he is one of the few genuinely decent people in Washington, but it won't work as well for the guy who boasts about being the other half of the corruption equation.
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blue squares posted:Top four! Final five baby! Final five!
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Fun tidbit: RNC Rule 40 states that in order to be placed in nomination on the first ballot, a candidate must win a majority of delegates in at least eight states. So, Marco's 3-5-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 strategy might run into a bit of a snag there. It will be interesting to see what the RNC would do if, say, Trump doesn't have enough delegates to win on the first ballot outright, but also is the only candidate who can be put into nomination under Rule 40, which would then trigger a lot of state party rules binding delegates to the only candidate put in nomination. Of course, the RNC Rules Committee can change this rule at the convention, if they want.
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TyrantWD posted:I don't think that is going to play as well in the general election as it does now. At best he is going to prove to be equally as corrupt as Hillary. With Wall Street in particular, Trump is not going to be able to claim to be their adversary in the way Bernie can. If Trump and Hillary engage in a war on each others character, they will both lose. Again, it works for Bernie because he is one of the few genuinely decent people in Washington, but it won't work as well for the guy who boasts about being the other half of the corruption equation. Trump has been quoted as saying "I hope it gets nasty, it's more fun that way right?" He's hoping to make a spectacle of any sort of fight dragged out with Hillary, and he's daring her to come down to his level. My guess is he doesn't care how bad it gets, so long as it reveals just how low she's willing to go to win the presidency. I suspect he has some wild maneuver in store that'll kickflip the narrative in his favor.
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Joementum posted:Fun tidbit: RNC Rule 40 states that in order to be placed in nomination on the first ballot, a candidate must win a majority of delegates in at least eight states. What do you see as the most likely overall outcome now, Trump getting screwed at the convention?
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Joementum posted:Of course, the RNC Rules Committee can change this rule at the convention, if they want. Which I'm sure Trump and his supporters would welcome as all just part of the process...
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Joementum posted:Fun tidbit: RNC Rule 40 states that in order to be placed in nomination on the first ballot, a candidate must win a majority of delegates in at least eight states. How does this even happen? Cruz would have to start winning a majority of states? That seems..... unlikely
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The party would be over at that point, Rubio would have to be a loving moron to agree to that plan as well.
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TyrantWD posted:I don't think that is going to play as well in the general election as it does now. At best he is going to prove to be equally as corrupt as Hillary. With Wall Street in particular, Trump is not going to be able to claim to be their adversary in the way Bernie can. If Trump and Hillary engage in a war on each others character, they will both lose. Again, it works for Bernie because he is one of the few genuinely decent people in Washington, but it won't work as well for the guy who boasts about being the other half of the corruption equation. Trump has destroyed republican politicians, among republican primary voters for being corporate shills. Among uninformed general election voters, Trump is going to destroy Hillary on her Wall St ties and support for the Iraq war. John Q. Uninformed-voter is going to unironically love the fact that Trump can say he's never taken bribes from corporate interests or voted in favor of financial sector backed bills that screws middle and lower class Americans. I'm not saying Trump will come away unscathed, Hillary has plenty of ammo to use against him, but this issue isn't it. I agree that it would flop against Bernie.
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I saw this live and he kept trying to talk about Trump University and the media needing to fill its role in highlighting Trump's history. Joe kept telling him that Trump supporters do not care, it's already been covered in depth and they still do not care. Bob did not seem to grasp that point at all.
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The RNC wanted the early states to not matter as much in the grand scheme - even now Trump only has 1 qualifying state under Rule 40. The rule was changed from 5 states to 8 to let a candidate limp through the proportional states but win the WTA/WTM states later that allow them to get big delegate chunks and also qualify under Rule 40. If you believe sites like CTH the whole framework was put in place to have tons of vote splitters in the race so Jeb could end up winning the nomination with ~20-25% support. The plan was set up in 2013-14 and didn't expect someone like Trump flipping the script and using the plan against them.
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nachos posted:How does this even happen? Cruz would have to start winning a majority of states? That seems..... unlikely Yeah, all scenarios aside from one candidate getting to the convention with a majority of pledged delegates are very unlikely, but fun!
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Forums Terrorist posted:lol i thought you hated political correctness I dislike the fact that "racist, sexist, bigot" are used to shut down legitimate discussions about things such as illegal immigration. I don't support using sexist and racist language.
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Joementum posted:Fun tidbit: RNC Rule 40 states that in order to be placed in nomination on the first ballot, a candidate must win a majority of delegates in at least eight states. Doesn't the GOP go to winner-take-all at one point too?
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Alter Ego posted:Doesn't the GOP go to winner-take-all at one point too? Only in a few states. A number more are similar to SC in that they're winner-take-most and a good proportional victory will see almost all the delegates go to that candidate. A LOT of them are "if you get 50% of the vote, you get everything, else it's proportional".
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The Saurus posted:I dislike the fact that "racist, sexist, bigot" are used to shut down legitimate discussions about things such as illegal immigration. You don't have to use racist terms to sound racist, champ. Seriously, you sound like Freepers who think that because they don't use the n-word, they're not racist.
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Alter Ego posted:Doesn't the GOP go to winner-take-all at one point too? WTA primaries/caucuses include Marianas Islands (9) Wisconsin (42) Delaware (16) Maryland (38) Indiana (57) California (172) Florida (99) Ohio (66) Arizona (58) Nebraska (36) Montana (27) New Jersey (51) South Dakota (29) Other states like IL PA and CT have either the district delegates or the at-large delegates as WTA, and most proportional states have a 50-85% WTA threshold.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the second post he quoted I made before the first, and the reason I am convinced he's a racist is that when he found out my wife was an immigrant he immediately called her a whore. I really do try to take people seriously, even people with whom I disagree, but The Saurus is a nasty little creep and if he can't even try to be decent I don't know why I should bother with him. I'm sorry that you're so disgusted by women who work as sex workers that the mere joking implication that your wife is one (which wasn't actually what I was saying) made you rage the gently caress out.
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Slate Action posted:What do you see as the most likely overall outcome now, Trump getting screwed at the convention? If the Republican establishment tries to screw Trump, he'll turn around and launch a third-party run faster than you can say "President Hillary Clinton". No, they're stuck with him, and they have no choice but to fall in line.
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Glenn Beck is salty as hell this morning. Ranting about how Breitbart is Goebbeles and how Trump crashed his speech.
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Mukaikubo posted:(For the record, those 538 paths-to-the-nomination have Trump needing to win only 2 outright, Cruz needing 8, and Rubio needing 4. Again, Cruz isn't making that.) At this point you have to assume that Cruz is only running in the hope that he secures enough delegates to be the deciding factor at the convention between Trump and Rubio, and that those delegates will let him negotiate for the VP nom or whatever it is that he wants second to the presidency.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:Trump has been quoted as saying "I hope it gets nasty, it's more fun that way right?" He's hoping to make a spectacle of any sort of fight dragged out with Hillary, and he's daring her to come down to his level. A really dirty, and personal general election fight is probably what Hillary is best suited for. Rubio is best suited to beating Hillary, and Trump would be the strongest against Bernie.
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Sex workers should not be discriminated against, shilldog lawyers for walmart, however...
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http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/02/24/trump-wins-nevada.-rubio-cruz-settle-nothing./quote:And so we hurtle on towards the oblivion of Trump because the partisans of the various candidates who recognize Trump for the unfunny joke that he is refuse to let go of their delusions – delusions so massive that they are only eclipsed by the delusions of the candidates themselves. 
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DaveWoo posted:If the Republican establishment tries to screw Trump, he'll turn around and launch a third-party run faster than you can say "President Hillary Clinton". It also assumes they have someone who is willing to put up with Trump, someone who has effortlessly destroyed campaigns left and right, going complete scorched earth on them. Who in their loving right mind would sign up for that right now? Half the party is terrified of him at this point. Trump would have absolutely nothing to lose, I can't even imagine how dirty it would get.
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squidgee posted:At this point you have to assume that Cruz is only running in the hope that he secures enough delegates to be the deciding factor at the convention between Trump and Rubio, and that those delegates will let him negotiate for the VP nom or whatever it is that he wants second to the presidency. Cruz holding Rubio's nomination hostage would be delicious, and especially if we end up with a Rubio/Cruz ticket with a grumpy Trump having lost the nom with like 48% of the delegates. It will be a bloodbath. Or Rubio has to publicly declare Cruz will be his nomination to the SCOTUS to replace Scalia!
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a lone man smiles as the titanic is splitting in half . "Captain Rubio will get us of this." water is flooding his cabin , up to his neck. "Marco ...polo" as he drowns
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The Saurus posted:I'm sorry that you're so disgusted by women who work as sex workers that the mere joking implication that your wife is one (which wasn't actually what I was saying) made you rage the gently caress out. lol that you're so upset about this. also for everyone else in the thread make sure to read this, it's the_saurus.txt https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3749894 that's his wife btw
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Antti posted:Cruz holding Rubio's nomination hostage would be delicious, and especially if we end up with a Rubio/Cruz ticket with a grumpy Trump having lost the nom with like 48% of the delegates. It will be a bloodbath. there would be an actual riot if that happens
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https://twitter.com/nwarikoo/status/702373024188788737 politics is so delicious
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Montasque posted:Glenn Beck is salty as hell this morning. Ranting about how Breitbart is Goebbeles and how Trump crashed his speech. God drat it you've dragged me down the rabbit hole on this. Next I'm going to actually learn when the different morons are on the air.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:i still don't think you should say things like that, it's needlessly personal. if the Saurus called me a dumb libtard shill I'd be all Huh, thanks. I appreciate that. And since you were nice I will apologise for the FMJ video I posted in reference. It was just meant to be a lighthearted joke because you said she was from a country the US had propped up because they were terrified of communists and it was the first thing that popped into my head. I didn't mean to upset or offend you. e: You really shouldn't call sex workers whores though dude. The Saurus fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Amanda Carpenter, former Cruz campaign spokeswoman, tells CNN that Cruz has to stop saying the same old poo poo, and he should stop using labels no one cares anymore like "evangelical." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iMGSvTJp84 rear end cobra posted:God drat it you've dragged me down the rabbit hole on this. Next I'm going to actually learn when the different morons are on the air. My God what have I done? Montasque fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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The Saurus posted:e: You really shouldn't call sex workers whores though dude. Maybe you shouldn't use 'whore' as an insult, dude.
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Forums Terrorist posted:lol that you're so upset about this. also for everyone else in the thread make sure to read this, it's the_saurus.txt https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3749894 that's his wife btw Hey at least he doesn't have 1000 posts in the GBS GamerGate thread.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Has trump even campaigned in texas yet? he has had multiple rallies there and has one planned for this Friday in Fort Worth
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