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Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



blowfish posted:

Name one end user visible feature ("comes with native USB3 drivers" or "optimised for X hardware" doesn't count) in Windows 10 that makes it better for an office PC running, uh, Office than Windows 7 or 8.1.

I thought of one: a modern, standards-compliant browser that's not a dumpster fire full of security holes.

And IE 11 is still there so the drones can use the Enterprise Grade Tire Fire the CTO was convinced to buy during a lapdance in Vegas.

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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

FilthyImp posted:

Personally, I don't think you can count anyone after 1995 as a millennial. Feels like you should be able to remember 9-11 :patriot: to be a millennial. It's hard to have the millennial angst if you don't remember the high hog days of Pets.com

I feel the same. It should be anyone born after Gen Y stopped being the term of choice is a Millennial. So basically early 80's to mid/late 90's were Gen Y, and the Millennial's came after.

They grew up in a time when communication technology was fully integrated into life. Their first phone was a smartphone, the internet was commonplace throughout their lives. My generation phones were giant blocks that only the rich owned, then they became smaller and more affordable but were still limited by expensive text and call rates. The internet wasn't in most homes yet and generally had to be accessed from colleges, libraries or schools.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I can't wait until 80's nostalgia passes so we can get to 90's nostalgia because that shits gonna get loving weird. We're already starting to see shades of it in some places but it's not quite omnipresent yet.

At least link the high-quality one.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I can't wait until 80's nostalgia passes so we can get to 90's nostalgia because that shits gonna get loving weird. We're already starting to see shades of it in some places but it's not quite omnipresent yet.

We just had the X-Files.

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I can't wait until 80's nostalgia passes so we can get to 90's nostalgia because that shits gonna get loving weird. We're already starting to see shades of it in some places but it's not quite omnipresent yet.

Yeah, like, I watched this video because I wanted to see more Mitch Hedberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbXTpa4iqDo

But was shocked and confused at the eerie, somber tone of the show's intro/outro. Like, when they show the 4 guests's photos I feel like I'm supposed to guess which one will be dead by the end of it. I had to ask people who were adults at the time how that was real. I thought the 90s was supposed to be super upbeat and cheery because there was no dot com burst yet.

Stinky_Pete fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Feb 24, 2016

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Marenghi posted:

I feel the same. It should be anyone born after Gen Y stopped being the term of choice is a Millennial. So basically early 80's to mid/late 90's were Gen Y, and the Millennial's came after.

They grew up in a time when communication technology was fully integrated into life. Their first phone was a smartphone, the internet was commonplace throughout their lives. My generation phones were giant blocks that only the rich owned, then they became smaller and more affordable but were still limited by expensive text and call rates. The internet wasn't in most homes yet and generally had to be accessed from colleges, libraries or schools.

AOL/Prodigy/Compuserve/The Well/etc. were around a LONG time before smartphones. As were modems. My family wasn't rich and we had a 2400bps modem and Prodigy in like 1994 when I was 9 years old.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


Munkeymon posted:

I thought of one: a modern, standards-compliant browser that's not a dumpster fire full of security holes.

And IE 11 is still there so the drones can use the Enterprise Grade Tire Fire the CTO was convinced to buy during a lapdance in Vegas.

Chrome? Firefox? Opera?

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010
I'm on a cell phone so no quotes from the article but lmao at recent zenifits craziness.

quote:

Calif. startup asked workers to stop having sex in stairwells.

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-startup-asked-workers-stop-sex-stairwell-article-1.2542042

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
The funniest thing I can remember about growing up as a millennial is going from actual magazines and scrambled porn to the Internet. It's like we got to take the red pill and instead of the scene with "Guns. Lots of guns." It was "Porn. All the porn. All of it. Weird poo poo, too."

Kids born with high speed internet have no idea.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Radbot posted:

AOL/Prodigy/Compuserve/The Well/etc. were around a LONG time before smartphones. As were modems. My family wasn't rich and we had a 2400bps modem and Prodigy in like 1994 when I was 9 years old.

I didn't say the internet didn't exist back then. Just that it wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Subjunctive posted:

I don't think many 8 year olds were tuned into pets.com.
Obviously you underestimate the value of a sock-puppet mascot. But even if you're 8, I think you can recognize "poo poo this 9-11 thing is bad and scary" and place it as a turning point of some kind. Even if it's just "All this news is taking Gundam off the TV!" like it was with Gulf War 1.

Marenghi posted:

They grew up in a time when communication technology was fully integrated into life. Their first phone was a smartphone, the internet was commonplace throughout their lives
That, too. Might be more apt to call it in MicroGen for some, but I really feel like post 95-97 is a starkly different age to grow up in. Hell, AIDS/HIV awareness alone wasn't ratcheted up to crazy levels like it was in the years before.


Radbot posted:

"Why doesn't everyone just get prime bartending shifts in big cities?" - Young, white woman
Also "Why can't you just, like, ask a friend to talk to the owner and get you a $16/hr job!?"

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



cool and good posted:

Chrome? Firefox? Opera?

Edge is Actually Not Bad except for the lack of extensions to do adblocking, but it's at least good enough that corporate IT could justify locking machines down so hard that rank-and-file can't run anything outside of a whitelist because they wouldn't even need Chrome or whatever "just in case " anymore. Need to use a modern site? Edge. Internal-only disaster that requires the IE7 rendering engine? IE11 w/compat mode is still lurking in the shadows ready to be the browser you still need but don't deserve.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Subjunctive posted:

I don't think many 8 year olds were tuned into pets.com.

They were tuned into the mad DOW 1 MILLION OR BUST economic mania of the era. It was rather hard not to notice.

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now
I remember when online dating was a weird thing to do. Now it feels like the only way to date/meet someone for a lot of people.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

DrNutt posted:

The funniest thing I can remember about growing up as a millennial is going from actual magazines and scrambled porn to the Internet. It's like we got to take the red pill and instead of the scene with "Guns. Lots of guns." It was "Porn. All the porn. All of it. Weird poo poo, too."

Kids born with high speed internet have no idea.

Staring at a scrambled channel trying to pick out things that looked like body parts, only to discover a half hour later it was some totally innocuous program.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Mozi posted:

Staring at a scrambled channel trying to pick out things that looked like body parts, only to discover a half hour later it was some totally innocuous program.

And don't forget the late night PPV porn ads constantly running on channels 98 and 99.

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey



Reading an article on this, it indicated that Palantir execs aren't planning on taking the company public... which means they'll likely do a sweetheart deal like happened to Good Technologies where the employee (common) shares were worth pennies on the dollar while the VC (preferred) shares were worth actual money when they got bought out.

Whether this is true or not remains to be seen, but whoever put up those flyers is apparently of the opinion such a deal is happening or likely to happen soon.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.


Belongs in the OP. I think this thread is gonna stick around for a while- it sounds like the parade of dead unicorns will last.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Companies offering stock options, while also having no intention of going public was a thing during dot.com v1.0 as well.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


ocrumsprug posted:

Companies offering stock options, while also having no intention of going public was a thing during dot.com v1.0 as well.

Which is the biggest con since Ghengis. that leaves your employees with what are essentially worthless chits since the amount of stock provided (common, always common) is never large enough to sell off in a block through private brokerage individually at a price that is actually worth their while, but they still have to pay taxes on the supposed value of the stock.

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I can't wait until 80's nostalgia passes so we can get to 90's nostalgia because that shits gonna get loving weird. We're already starting to see shades of it in some places but it's not quite omnipresent yet.

People have been talking about a supposed cartoon golden age in the 90s for years now, and Vaporwave's aesthetic is basically late 80s/ early 90s pop culture on speed. I'd say it's well underway.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010
Having to rub one out to the wavy green lines of a tit from a premium channel you didn't get. Teenagers these days are so lucky.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

ProperGanderPusher posted:

People have been talking about a supposed cartoon golden age in the 90s for years now
Supposed? Three networks ran SatAM programming (4 if you count CBS's anemic schedule) for 4-5 years. 3 ran weekday afternoon programming (Fox Kids, WB! Kids, The Disney Afternoon).

Not all of that content was good -- I'm looking at you, Marsupalami -- but the amount of stuff produced was pretty significant.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

FilthyImp posted:

Supposed? Three networks ran SatAM programming (4 if you count CBS's anemic schedule) for 4-5 years. 3 ran weekday afternoon programming (Fox Kids, WB! Kids, The Disney Afternoon).

Not all of that content was good -- I'm looking at you, Marsupalami -- but the amount of stuff produced was pretty significant.

And that's before you start talking about how kids in this era almost universally grew up with basic cable (and therefore access to Nicktoons and, late in the decade, Cartoon Network's Cartoon-Cartoon/World-Premiere-Cartoons output).

And while it's usually not what's meant by "90s cartoons", this generation also had the opportunity to live through the beginning of the adult cartoon revival with the Simpsons and King of the Hill and literally aged straight into Family Guy and Futurama when they started at the end of the decade. You could easily argue that cartoons like Archer and much of the cartoon output of Adult Swim were literally built on top of the cultural priming that Fox Sunday nights in the 90s offered millennials (which arguably depended in turn on the childhood priming that the pre-1996 cartoon blocks gave)

ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Feb 25, 2016

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

ComradeCosmobot posted:

You could easily argue that cartoons like Archer and much of the cartoon output of Adult Swim were literally built on top of the cultural priming that Fox Sunday nights in the 90s offered millennials (which arguably depended in turn on the childhood priming that the pre-1996 cartoon blocks gave)
And even if you're not going by the ubiquity of network produced animation, the 90s are like 3 years removed from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which was credited as not only prompting a revival of classic Looney Tunes shorts but also saved a bunch of old knowledge and techniques as modern animators learned from some old pros.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Kwyndig posted:

Which is the biggest con since Ghengis. that leaves your employees with what are essentially worthless chits since the amount of stock provided (common, always common) is never large enough to sell off in a block through private brokerage individually at a price that is actually worth their while, but they still have to pay taxes on the supposed value of the stock.

My first few jobs in tech were around the end of the first boom. I ended up with probably about 15 bullshit offers and a half dozen month-long gigs that ended in a belly-up company, lovely wages and worthless stock. It came down to two offers. One from yet another web startup, and one from an old, established, hippy bastion of the 80s tech economy. Fed up with startup bullshit, I took the offer from the established company.

The startup was Akamai. The options they offered would have been worth half a million post IPO. They survived the crash and have been building slowly but surely since.

The old, established company was Lotus. They'd been bought out by IBM three years before I got there, but they still considered themselves the scrappy old bastion of hippy techdom. About a month in, IBM suddenly decided to systematically burn away every part of the company that was fun, inspired or joyful to the point where it became a hellish wasteland of bureaucracy and indecision. I left after 4 months.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I used to work in an Apple store in the Bay Area and a good portion of the Genius team ended up leaving for Palantir. I didn't know the company was doing badly, hope those guys are alright.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

TACD posted:

I used to work in an Apple store in the Bay Area and a good portion of the Genius team ended up leaving for Palantir. I didn't know the company was doing badly, hope those guys are alright.

they named themselves after the cursed seeing stones from lord of the rings. if that isnt a bad sign i dunno what is.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

axeil posted:

they named themselves after the cursed seeing stones from lord of the rings. if that isnt a bad sign i dunno what is.

I really love that choice, and I'm not sure if I'd prefer it to be tongue-in-cheek or, somehow, a perfectly straight-faced misunderstanding of the source material.

"You know what's a good name for a surveillance company and government contractor? The once-legitimate observation and telecommunications devices that are now used by an imperialist megalomaniac to watch from afar and corrupt the minds of the weak with promises and threats."

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

GreyjoyBastard posted:

I really love that choice, and I'm not sure if I'd prefer it to be tongue-in-cheek or, somehow, a perfectly straight-faced misunderstanding of the source material.

"You know what's a good name for a surveillance company and government contractor? The once-legitimate observation and telecommunications devices that are now used by an imperialist megalomaniac to watch from afar and corrupt the minds of the weak with promises and threats."

Having worked closely with them and aborted the interview process due to discovering their toxic culture and philosophy, I can confirm that it is the latter but internalized in a way as to be seen as a very very very good thing.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

archangelwar posted:

Having worked closely with them and aborted the interview process due to discovering their toxic culture and philosophy, I can confirm that it is the latter but internalized in a way as to be seen as a very very very good thing.
I assume you escaped Palo Alto on the back of a drone.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Marissa Mayer is looking for venture capital to take Yahoo private.

At this point, it's like reading coverage of an ugly divorce.

quote:

Embattled Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer may be exploring a deal to take the company private in order to stay at its helm, even as her board explores a sale of the struggling search giant to telecom companies.

Mayer’s friend, investment banker Frank Quattrone, has reached out to private equity firms on Mayer’s behalf to explore a potential deal for Yahoo’s core business, according to a person familar with the matter, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak on the issue. The news was first reported by Fortune and the New York Post and later confirmed to the Chronicle.

Yahoo declined to comment. Last week, the company said it would set up a formal process to reach out and engage with potential buyers. A committee of independent board directors would evaluate such offers and make recommmendations to the board.

Mayer is not part of that committee and now seems to be trying to carve out her own path for Yahoo, by finding a deal that would allow her to remain CEO. Mayer has been embarking on a turnaround plan announced in February that would focus Yahoo on fewer products with a leaner staff.
...
Investment bank SunTrust Robinson Humphrey estimates that Yahoo’s core business, including its real estate, could fetch net proceeds of $6 billion to $8 billion from a strategic buyer, compared to $4 billion to $6 billion from a private equity firm.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

GreyjoyBastard posted:

I really love that choice, and I'm not sure if I'd prefer it to be tongue-in-cheek or, somehow, a perfectly straight-faced misunderstanding of the source material.

"You know what's a good name for a surveillance company and government contractor? The once-legitimate observation and telecommunications devices that are now used by an imperialist megalomaniac to watch from afar and corrupt the minds of the weak with promises and threats."

Remember that this was a thing:



And this:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
What would a private Yahoo do, exactly?

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Discendo Vox posted:

What ... Yahoo do, exactly?

They just need to answer this question first, I'm sure they'll think of something good any day now.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Discendo Vox posted:

What would a private Yahoo do, exactly?

The same as public yahoo, except the idiot in chief can't get booted out for throwing alibaba stock profits into the financial black hole of yahoo.com as a vanity project.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Yahoo is the sunk cost fallacy in the flesh, then virtualized to the cloud.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Discendo Vox posted:

What would a private Yahoo do, exactly?
Keep Marissa Mayer on as CEO, duh! Also, uhhh, be private. Did I mentioned Marissa Mayer?

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
Someone remind me why Marissa Meyer left a good job at google for this shitshow.

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