CanPol Megathread: Big Changus

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Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Cultural Imperial posted:

You know what else we should do in addition to banning Uber and AirBnB? Give everyone a job that pays 90k/year. Also, make layoffs illegal. Nationalize Whole Foods and expropriate all luxury car dealerships for the greater good.

Nice to see you posting some positive and good ideas.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 20:13

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# ? May 15, 2024 14:39

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

And when no one will lend the government any more money and the loonie has become worthless and hyperinflation takes hold, we can just empty the cities and ask everyone to live and work in collectivist farms. To uphold our glorious military history and stellar international reputation, we can conscript all able bodied people to make them work as unarmed UN peacekeepers in Syria.

No keynesian hole digging here. We canadians all do our noble part.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 20:22

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

I like this slightly more articulate and snarky CI.

I'm really curious about your position vis-a-vis rental properties Helsing. If you don't think real estate should be treated as investments how do you think people who can't afford to buy a home should live? Do you think the state should own all rental housing?

# ? Feb 24, 2016 20:36

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Suddenly socialist: Tom Mulcair�s awkward left turn, or, "oh hey maybe this social democracy stuff isn't completely toxic after all"

Heather Libby posted:

It�s not a great time to be Tom Mulcair. He led his party from first place to a distant third in the recent federal election, losing 51 of 95 seats that the New Democrats held going into the election. Only 10 per cent of Canadians think he�d be a good prime minister.

And he�ll need the support of at least 70 per cent of party delegates at an April convention to keep his job, according to the NDP�s president.

It�s clear that Mulcair wants to keep his job. What�s not clear is why he seems to think politicking like Bernie Sanders is going to get him there.

Co-opting Sanders, the outsider candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, shouldn�t be a stretch for an NDP leader. This is a party steeped in the same wealth-redistributing, regulation-imposing tea that Sanders drinks every morning. The NDP is the reason Canada has the single-payer health care system of the Vermont senator�s dreams. And though Sanders� political revolution is attracting record donations and Obama 2008-era crowds, he seems like socialism-lite compared to Canadian lefty stalwarts like Tommy Douglas and Jack Layton. The NDP should be showing Sanders how it�s done � not the other way around.

But let�s get one thing straight: Thomas Mulcair is not Bernie Sanders. And there�s almost nothing in his political history that makes it seem like he�d ever want to be.

Sanders nurtured his socialist roots on the streets during the civil rights movement. Mulcair started his political career with the Quebec Liberal party. In 2012, Mulcair ran the most centrist campaign of the NDP leadership candidates. As leader of the official Opposition, he oversaw the NDP�s slow slide towards the centre, pushing the socialist caucus off the 2013 convention floor, personally calling for the removal of the word �socialism� from the party constitution, and silencing members who criticized Israel�s treatment of Palestine.

By the time the election rolled around, it was relatively easy for Trudeau�s Liberals to outflank Mulcair�s NDP on the left. It was a space the NDP had long abandoned.

Mulcair�s political reinvention started around the same time that Sanders� star began to rise. On Jan. 20, he met with party strategists at a retreat in Montebello, Quebec, to lay out his post-election plan. It all hinges, to use Mulcair�s words, on a social democratic vision in which the NDP, �as social democrats � will continue to fight inequality wherever it exists.� Since then Mulcair has name-checked Sanders in question period, and started raising his key issue � income inequality � at every possible opportunity.

In his post-election letter to party members, Mulcair mentions �social democratic values� or �social democrats� along with �income inequality� three times each in just 995 words. In contrast, the 81-page platform his party campaigned on just four months ago doesn�t use the phrases �social democrat� or �income inequality� at all.

It�s quite the turn for a man who told Peter Mansbridge last September that his most electable quality was �a clear plan, consistency � You can�t run a country by focus group. You can�t keep changing your position.�

To be fair, it�s completely possible that Mulcair had a socialist awakening in the past few months. But given his lifetime of pragmatic centrism, that seems about as likely as Ted Cruz asking for the reinstatement of his Canadian citizenship. What seems more plausible is that Mulcair does not want to see his political career end with electoral failure, and that he�s willing to do and say whatever it takes to prevent that from happening.

For me, watching Mulcair dress up his politics like Sanders� triggers the same second-hand embarrassment I get from seeing photos of myself in Grade 8 with permed hair and blue eye shadow. I was desperate to fit in and pretended to be someone I wasn�t. Not surprisingly, it didn�t work.

For Mulcair, it might. The NDP does not have a habit of throwing out its leaders after election losses, and there are many in the party saying they�ll give him a second chance. If they�re correct, and Mulcair gets the mandate he and his team need to stay on, he�ll have four long years in the political wilderness to convince them � and Canadian voters � that he�s not just saying what he thinks they want to hear.

Try to stifle your laughter as this obvious liberal talks up inequality without ever identifying the cause markets :ssh:

# ? Feb 24, 2016 20:47

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

THC posted:

Suddenly socialist: Tom Mulcair�s awkward left turn, or, "oh hey maybe this social democracy stuff isn't completely toxic after all"

Try to stifle your laughter as this obvious liberal talks up inequality without ever identifying the cause markets

Yeah NDP, run on an ultra left platform after 4 years of Sunny Ways spending with nothing to show for it. Anything is possible but Mulcair blew their golden opportunity and should have been turfed twice for that. Too bad NDP doesn't believe in firing people.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 20:59

vainman: Nov 2, 2012; I find your lack of faith... disturbing

There seems to be a misunderstanding about Uber's deal with Edmonton and Calgary. Both cities recognize that it will cost $1-3 million a year to enforce the ride sharing bylaw. Edmonton has decided to collect it from alternative sources (property tax or speeding tickets) and Calgary has decided to charge Uber drivers directly.

It isn't that Calgary can't make the same bylaw that Edmonton did, it's that they decided not to, probably because property taxes are such a hot topic in that city.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:01

velvet milkman: Feb 13, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Ikantski posted:

Yeah NDP, run on an ultra left platform after 4 years of Sunny Ways spending with nothing to show for it. Anything is possible but Mulcair blew their golden opportunity and should have been turfed twice for that. Too bad NDP doesn't believe in firing people.

I'd rather they run (and get crushed) on a stolen Bernie platform than run on whatever the hell Liberal-lite platform they went with last time.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:04

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Ikantski posted:

Yeah NDP, run on an ultra left platform after 4 years of Sunny Ways spending with nothing to show for it. Anything is possible but Mulcair blew their golden opportunity and should have been turfed twice for that. Too bad NDP doesn't believe in firing people.

I don't think it's smart to blame Mulcair solely. There are other people in the party braintrust who are equally responsible, if not more so. (And they're even harder to get rid of :shepicide:

)

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:15

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

Trees and Squids posted:

I'd rather they run (and get crushed) on a stolen Bernie platform than run on whatever the hell Liberal-lite platform they went with last time.

Personally Id prefer a Great Purge of Mulcair and all his Liberal-lite idiots and a return to the Tommy Douglas era, but it wont happen because a platform that left is "unelectable" and the NDP seem to think they need to be in power to get their way.

These are the same brains behind the BC and Ontario NDP so its not like it would just be a federal thing either.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:20

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Trees and Squids posted:

I'd rather they run (and get crushed) on a stolen Bernie platform than run on whatever the hell Liberal-lite platform they went with last time.

A national daycare program rolled out in a fiscally responsible way that doesn't lead to long term cuts to other services is Liberal-lite? These granola munchers and other people who looked at the platforms more than Liberal attack ads thought the NDP platform was more progressive.

http://behindthenumbers.ca/2015/10/13/making-progress-which-party-has-the-most-progressive-platform/

Until canadians stop simply equating deficit size with leftness, they don't deserve a progressive government :colbert:

THC posted:

I don't think it's smart to blame Mulcair solely. There are other people in the party braintrust who are equally responsible, if not more so. (And they're even harder to get rid of )

Sure, not him solely but definitely him. I'm not judging him as a lefty, I'm judging him as a guy who has to make quick tactical decisions to win an election.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tom-mulcair-says-ndp-s-balanced-budget-commitment-was-his-idea-1.3266310

quote:

The NDP's decision to promise four years of balanced budgets if elected stemmed from leader Tom Muclair's own position on fiscal management, Mulcair says in an interview airing later today on CBC News Network's Power & Politics.

"When I explained my position to the party � that we have to be good, prudent public administrators if we aspire to form government � the party and the membership agreed with me," Mulcair tells host Rosemary Barton.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:22

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Ikantski posted:

Until canadians stop simply equating deficit size with leftness, they don't deserve a progressive government

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:23

T.C.: Feb 10, 2004; Believe.

Majuju posted:

There's actually a site that scrapes Airbnb and bins things based on categories like type of dwelling, availability, and frequency of rental. The Vancouver data and the aforementioned (slightly outdated) grad student work estimates 2,800 or so whole-unit rentals via Airbnb, or ~2.1% of the City of Vancouver's "dwellings occupied by renter households". This obviously seems like a small number but when you stack it against a 1% overall vacancy rate you'd probably be tripling Vancouver's vacancy rate if the vacation/short-term rentals weren't there.

_{which probably wouldn't affect rents at all, going by the Calgary article I linked earlier}

Some dude did some quick (and admittedly limited) look at rentals vs airbnb last week

http://www.pesfandiar.com/blog/2016/02/18/just-how-bad-is-airbnb-in-vancouver

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:52

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-legalize-liberal-pot-plan-1.3461745

quote:

The Liberal government has no set time frame for legalizing marijuana, and current laws must be enforced, the federal point man on changes to Canada's pot legislation said Wednesday.

Bill Blair, parliamentary secretary to the justice minister and Toronto's former police chief, told to a group of Senate Liberals during a public policy forum that there will be no moratorium on charges or prosecution for possessing marijuana.

Blair is leading the task force that will consult widely with various people to craft new laws around marijuana, and he warned Canadians they could still face criminal charges for smoking weed.

"Until Parliament has enacted legislation, and new rules are in place to ensure that marijuana is carefully regulated, the current laws remain in force and should be obeyed," he said.

Is weed legal yet??

# ? Feb 24, 2016 22:30

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

CLAM DOWN posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-legalize-liberal-pot-plan-1.3461745

Is weed legal yet??

Cultural Imperial posted:

Is weed legal yet

quote:

https://news.vice.com/article/canadas-largest-pharmacy-chain-is-quietly-thinking-about-selling-medical-weed

Canada�s Largest Pharmacy Chain Is Quietly Thinking About Selling Medical Weed
By Jake Bleiberg

February 24, 2016 | 3:50 pm
Canada's largest chain of pharmacies is looking to cash in on Justin Trudeau's green rush, as they test the waters on selling medical marijuana.

And it looks like they've paid for a team of high-price lobbyists to get the job done.

Shoppers Drug Mart operates 1,300 drug stores across Canada � including the Pharmaprix chain in Quebec � has been in talks with the some the country's licensed cannabis producers of medical marijuana about stocking branded and generic pot products, The Globe and Mail first reported on Tuesday.

Two sources in the legal marijuana industry confirmed to VICE News that the pharmacy chain is in talks with several of Canada's 29 licensed producers about supplying pot products.

"I know that anyone they approached got a very restrictive non-disclosure agreement," said and employee of one licensed producer.

In a statement to the Globe and Mail, Shoppers did not deny their interest. "Pharmacists are medication experts and play a significant role in the prescribing and monitoring of medication to ensure safe and optimal use," Tammy Smitham told the Globe and Mail. "We believe that dispensing medical marijuana through pharmacy, like other medications, is the safest option."

Smitham did not respond to a repeated request for comment from VICE News. Rexall, the second biggest pharmacy chain, has also reportedly been in talks.

"We have spoken with all the major pharmacies in the last quarter," confirmed Mark Gobuty, founder of the Peace Naturals Project, the first federally-licensed medical marijuana producer to secure a license to distribute cannabis oils. That happened in December and "the phone started ringing very quickly after that," said Gobuty, who has a meeting with a third retail pharmacy on Friday.

Related: Canadians Can Grow Their Own Medical Marijuana, Court Says in Bombshell Ruling

"I'm certain they have talked to other licensed producers," he said of the big pharmacy players.

Gobuty described their interest as "high, pardon the pun" based on the types of people that they have enlisted to explore the prospect.

He said their queries have revolved around how they can get involved with dispensing oils, along with the potential for their own store brand. On the latter point, Gobuty said it's too early in the development of cannabis infused products for them to decide � although the interest is there � to deploy a store brand.

"They have to approach this with caution but their interest is very serious because they're seeing organic growth and incremental revenue," he said. "Cannabis is a natural one because of the uptake by the consumers and the death of reefer madness."

While Shoppers has not lobbied the federal government directly on the matter, Loblaw, their parent company, has recently registered lobbyists to "Policies relating to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA) and how they impact the role of pharmacists."

The CDSA is the law that governs the criminalization of marijuana.

The language was added to their lobbyist registrations as of July last year, immediately prior to the general election which saw Trudeau's pro-legalization Liberal Party sweep to power.

The Loblaw chain now has a five-person lobbying team, two of which were only added in recent months, targeting members of parliament and the Prime Minister's Office, as well as the health, industry, and public safety departments � all of which are involved with medical marijuana regulation.

One of the consultants dispatched to the file by Hill + Knowlten, a top-tier lobbying firm hired by Loblaws, is Sarah Bain, the former director of communications for the Liberal Party.

Related: Justin Trudeau's Battle for Legal Weed in Canada Is Going to Be a Total Mess

Although no other licensed producer was willing to say whether or not they were talking with Shoppers, several said they'd be excited about a potential partnership with the chain. "I think it's fantastic for the medical marijuana industry to see sophisticated companies like Shoppers come in, not only with national distribution but with pharmacists who really should be controlling the distribution of medical drugs," said John Fowler, President of licensed producer Supreme .

"A retail front, whether it's through pharmacies or public stores, there certainly is a place for that," said Mark Zekulin, President of Tweed, Canada's first publicly-traded marijuana producer.

Zekulin wouldn't comment specifically on Shoppers, but did say that he envisioned two different processes for buying marijuana � one, recreational; and the other, medical.

What that looks like is up to the Trudeau government, but in Ontario, the Liberal government has already indicated it would be interested in having recreational weed sold at the monopolistic liquor stores it controls. An announcement about a consultation process is expected in the coming weeks and months, but the issues was further complicated today when a federal court ruled that legal framework ruling medical marijuana in Canada is unconstitutional.

This afternoon, Judge Michael Phelan ruled that the "Marijuana for Medical Purposes Regulations," enacted under the previous Conservative government, violates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, leaving the government six months to appeal or develop legislation.

"We, like everybody else, are waiting for the formal process to begin," said Zekulin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MmkUzPnle8

# ? Feb 24, 2016 22:43

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

SubCrid TC posted:

Some dude did some quick (and admittedly limited) look at rentals vs airbnb last week

http://www.pesfandiar.com/blog/2016/02/18/just-how-bad-is-airbnb-in-vancouver

I'm not going to double check this guys work but at a quick glance these numbers seem really questionable.

There are only 200 rental vacancies in the entire north east portion of the city? Keep in mind we're comparing against AirBNB where it's literally someone's room in their basement, so rentals should include renting rooms.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 22:43

tagesschau: Sep 1, 2006; Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

PT6A posted:

If it was up to me, I'd just say raise the property tax on any property which is not used primarily by the owner of the property, and redirect the money gained through that to subsidize long-term renters and services for long-term residents.

Florida effectively does this (owner-occupied homesteads get a discount on property taxes, and the amount by which assessments can be raised from year to year is capped). It works well enough.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 22:51

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

CLAM DOWN posted:

"Until Parliament has enacted legislation, and new rules are in place to ensure that marijuana is carefully regulated, the current laws remain in force and should be obeyed," he said.

Jesus Christ God. Can you believe they put this jackbooted prick in charge of anything after that G20 fiasco. :lol:

forever at all the hippies who didn't see it coming when the libs welcomed noted fascist pig fucker Bill Blair into their caucus.

�He doesn�t seem to understand or respect the importance of civilian oversight in a democratic society.� �Ian Scott, former director of the Special Investigation Unit that studied G20 brutality and law-breaking by police, describing Bill Blair in the Toronto Star, April 17, 2015

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Feb 24, 2016

# ? Feb 24, 2016 22:52

yippee cahier: Mar 28, 2005

PT6A posted:

If it was up to me, I'd just say raise the property tax on any property which is not used primarily by the owner of the property, and redirect the money gained through that to subsidize long-term renters and services for long-term residents.

It should be across the board. If you can buy and live in Vancouver you're doing well enough to pay property tax without a subsidy from the landlords who pass the buck to your renting neighbours.

A jacked up property tax would also lower the rate of return on all real estate speculation, making it less attractive.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 23:37

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

THC posted:

Jesus Christ God. Can you believe they put this jackbooted prick in charge of anything after that G20 fiasco. forever at all the hippies who didn't see it coming when the libs welcomed noted fascist pig fucker Bill Blair into their caucus.

�He doesn�t seem to understand or respect the importance of civilian oversight in a democratic society.� �Ian Scott, former director of the Special Investigation Unit that studied G20 brutality and law-breaking by police, describing Bill Blair in the Toronto Star, April 17, 2015

I'm going to choke to death laughing when the Liberal party in the 2020 election promises again to decriminalize marijuana.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 23:39

Kraftwerk: Aug 13, 2011; i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I'm going to choke to death laughing when the Liberal party in the 2020 election promises again to decriminalize marijuana.

Yeah seriously how hard could it possibly be. If they seriously wanted to legalize it I'm sure they would've had a legislation tabled and ready to go. They're stalling. Blair might be trying to see how his police buddies can get probable cause if weed is legal and probably dragging his feet on the file.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 23:53

Monaghan: Dec 29, 2006

loving lol I can understand them not wanting to rush legalization legislation but not even committing to doing so before the next federal election, four years from now?

gently caress blair forever.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 23:57

blah_blah: Apr 15, 2006

Helsing posted:

In addition to this, you're destroying an industry that, whatever its flaws, provides a bunch of people with an income they can raise a family on or live a decent life, and replacing it with another industry that pays poverty wages, at a time when the economy really can't offer most of the people get screwed anything better. And the trade off is that drunk people can get home a bit cheaper and more conveniently. No thanks.

That's a bit reductive. The medallion system definitely doesn't provide a particularly comfortable life for typical medallion renters, and concentrates wealth in the hands of a few entrenched companies and their main shareholders or owners (not particularly unlike what Uber does!). The main difference is that at least Uber relies on having a superior product to gain market share, rather than lobbying by rent-seeking medallion owners.

I'd also argue that Uber isn't just a novelty or a luxury service. Uber (and to a lesser extent Lyft) has actually been my main mode of transportation for the last 2 years (not uncommon for tech workers living in the Bay Area) and I've spent around 1k to 2k per year on it. That's less than half of what I would pay for a parking spot alone in this city, to say nothing of the costs of actually owning a vehicle and having insurance for it. I wouldn't be able to do this with public transit or cabs; neither are reliable or convenient enough.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:07

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I'm going to choke to death laughing when the Liberal party in the 2020 election promises again to decriminalize marijuana.

You mean legalize marijuana. Decrim is an NDP policy, those waffling centrist class traitors

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:09

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Monaghan posted:

loving lol I can understand them not wanting to rush legalization legislation but not even committing to doing so before the next federal election, four years from now?

gently caress blair forever.

I didn't hear much of the story because I was howling at Blair going on about doing what's right like he had the first idea odd what that was.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:09

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

With the SCC ruling on people with prescriptions growing their own it really is a case of it being legal for people the government wants it to be legal for while still being a convenient excuse for law enforcement to do whatever the gently caress they want.

As a white adult I could go to my family doctor now and in 5 minutes be able to grow hold and use without any repercussions whatsoever but cops will be able to use 'I smelled weed' as an excuse to hassle native and black kids until the heat death of the universe.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:16

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Reminder that Blair also defended ~~stop and frisk~~ carding because uhh. I don't even remember the reason or if he gave one at all. He just thinks it's a self-evidently good policy.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:18

The Butcher: Apr 20, 2005; Well, at least we tried.; Nap Ghost

Monaghan posted:

loving lol I can understand them not wanting to rush legalization legislation but not even committing to doing so before the next federal election, four years from now?

gently caress blair forever.

Ah well, as much as I'd like to be able to purchase dank nugzzz totally above board and have the tax revenues properly captured, I'm starting to think whatever the government ends up coming up with (if they ever do) is going to be a much shittier situation then our current one in terms of price, variety, convenience, etc. The situation with the weed stores is pretty awesome right now, government is just going to gently caress it up with over regulation.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:21

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

No, it's not "everything the government does is a failure". Shut up Reagan. Believe it or not it is possible to craft good policy. We get lovely policy from our lovely government because of the lovely party we elected.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:23

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Helsing posted:

Toronto is in the midst of a massive construction boom and yet the rents keep climbing. This isn't a simple matter of supply / demand, it's the result of a broken system where housing is treated primarily as an investment rather than physical shelter.

I went to an event welcoming some refugees, and there were a couple of speakers who work with refugees at different steps in their transition to living here. One of the speakers, who helps them set up a bank account, get ID, find employment and find housing said that by far housing was the most difficult part of the whole process because there just isn't affordable housing anymore.

I was also listening to a York urban planning prof talk about the history of the big apartment complexes up in the Jane & Finch area. She said that the frustrating part was that most of those apartment buildings were reaching the end of their expected lifespan, they housed something like 80% of Toronto's poor, but nothing was being done to start building new homes at all.

Canada's priorties are hosed these days.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:25

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

gently caress all those people. Tell them to go back to university and start a career in STEM. If they don't, they deserve to die in a gutter.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:27

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Oh sorry for a second there my body got taken over by the collective spirit of half the posters in this thread.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:28

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Speaking of low income housing in Toronto did Regent Park ever end up having the same number of low income dwellings as before redevelopment as promised or did they just say 'get hosed, poors, this here's condo country now'

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:46

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

EvilJoven posted:

Oh sorry for a second there my body got taken over by the collective spirit of half the posters in this thread.

You weren't wrong but we can't boot strap morons that can't do math into math fields. We need quality jobs for every joe lumberjack and to end some of this bullshit part time forever business.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 00:57

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

People learned all sorts of technical skills with nothing but their Grade 10 in the postwar era. But Canadian companies don't want to invest in training people anymore, and instead insist everyone have the correct college certification and 5 years experience.

THC posted:

No, it's not "everything the government does is a failure". Shut up Reagan. Believe it or not it is possible to craft good policy. We get lovely policy from our lovely government because of the lovely party we elected.

There's a weird libertarian vibe in this thread these days. it's almost like the good old days.

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Feb 25, 2016

# ? Feb 25, 2016 01:02

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

In this thread, if it's not loving left of FDR, it's Splittist or Wrong Thinking and worthy of 10 years in a re-education and labour camp.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 01:23

Nine of Eight: Apr 28, 2011; LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN; Dinosaur Gum

Get to the back of the free speech line citizen

# ? Feb 25, 2016 01:25

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Dreylad posted:

There's a weird libertarian vibe in this thread these days. it's almost like the good old days.

I blame the people who voted for the small business corporate tax cut.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 01:26

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

gently caress all you dumb assholes who voted down the bc HST btw

# ? Feb 25, 2016 01:30

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

Cultural Imperial posted:

In this thread, if it's not loving left of FDR, it's Splittist or Wrong Thinking and worthy of 10 years in a re-education and labour camp.

Nah, I think we would accept actual FDR. He was disabled and had the last name of a previous president so the CanPol SJW Megathread would surely go nuts over him.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 01:36

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Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Let me be very, very clear: I voted to keep HST.

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