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Astroniomix posted:I actively encourage people do do dumb poo poo with their space murder yachts Then why are you here going on and on about how bad turrets are? e: oh well this was a pitiful way to start a new page, let me go dig up some actual content e2: here, have an screenshot I took of the "white federal ship paint job" bug on my old computer a while back  It's not a very good picture but I like it. Ferrovanadium fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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I also thought turrets were bad. I think Frontier might have been fiddling with the numbers a bit though, because this guy's findings yet again show me how stupid I am. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LnjMmsbm50 Apparently, turreted lasers are only 5% less powerful than gimballed versus shields. Turreted kinetic weapons get a huge damage dropoff, the difference between fixed and gimballed kinetic weapons is also more dramatic.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:37
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Rah! posted:You are bad. Turrets are cool, but don't rely on them as a crutch, practice how to aim and match intercept vectors instinctively. .
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Feb 25, 2016 00:40
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Astroniomix posted:I actively encourage people do do dumb poo poo with their space murder yachts, some of them are fun, just don't try to pretend it's good.  When the military paint is available for the Corvette I'm going to do the same thing except make it a Hiigaran Battlecruiser.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:41
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Mercurius posted:I bought the vibrant pack for the Anaconda and when C4 Beams and C3 Multicannons are available I'm going to turn it into a Destroyer from Homeworld I bought horizons during the black Friday sale without realizing I got a free cool black paint-job for every ship. It's the only sensible colour for a shooty spaceship.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:45
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tooterfish posted:I also thought turrets were bad. I think Frontier might have been fiddling with the numbers a bit though, because this guy's findings yet again show me how stupid I am. I'm going to have to go re-test everything after the new guns come out. His results are dramatically different than my (now over a year old) numbers say they should be. Astroniomix fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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Feb 25, 2016 00:45
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Rhubarb94 posted:I bought horizons during the black Friday sale without realizing I got a free cool black paint-job for every ship. It's the only sensible colour for a shooty spaceship. Astroniomix posted:I'm going to have to go re-test everything after the new guns come out.  is itching.That said, I'm basically going to be choosing the C4 weapons on my Corvette based on whether I like the look of the Multicannons or Beam Lasers better so 
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Feb 25, 2016 00:51
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Mercurius posted:The black looks great in some cases but in others the colour channels are really weird and it looks really off. I still wish they'd do what someone suggested here and add paint packs that apply to each of the colour channels on the ships so you could make your own colour combos with solid colours. The anaconda in particular has some annoying grey "blocks" on it's hull with the solid color paint packs. 
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Feb 25, 2016 00:56
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Astroniomix posted:Frag cannons are legitimately good, load up 4 of them on a type-7 and go to town.  Better still, load up 4 large on an Anaconda. Even more better, get "The Pacifier" variant from pledging to Hudson in Powerplay, because they rock, and this is the most fun I have had killing things quickly in Elite so far. Can't wait for the new 'huge' weapons.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:58
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Astroniomix posted:I'm going to have to go re-test everything after the new guns come out. His results are dramatically different than my (now over a year old) numbers say they should be. I have been using turrets a shitload since 1.5/2.0 and was very surprised that they were not the no-damage nerf guns everyone had made them out to be, they kill really drat well in fact! I had never used them much before so maybe something changed somewhere and was not clearly documented. Something that does seem to be an issue with them is they may track based on your game performance. Someone I know with a not so amazing computer who gets lots of FPS drops reports that their turrets spend 80-90% of the time shooting behind their target and land almost no shots which is totally unlike my experience where they hit constantly and almost unerringly.
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Space Skeleton posted:I have been using turrets a shitload since 1.5/2.0 and was very surprised that they were not the no-damage nerf guns everyone had made them out to be, they kill really drat well in fact! I had never used them much before so maybe something changed somewhere and was not clearly documented. Distance to target helps a bunch too, turrets get the same targeting "wobble" that gimballed guns suffer from. Also a while back FD changed turrets so the bigger ones track slower which might account for your friend's turrets missing so many of their shots.
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Feb 25, 2016 01:07
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Astroniomix posted:Distance to target helps a bunch too, turrets get the same targeting "wobble" that gimballed guns suffer from. Also a while back FD changed turrets so the bigger ones track slower which might account for your friend's turrets missing so many of their shots. We are using the same exact ship and loadout.
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Feb 25, 2016 01:08
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Space Skeleton posted:We are using the same exact ship and loadout. Yes but are you flying it the same?
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aleksendr posted:Turrets are cool, but don't rely on them as a crutch, practice how to aim and match intercept vectors instinctively. . Yes, also, turrets are cool.
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Feb 25, 2016 01:33
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Literally Kermit posted:OH MY GOD
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Feb 25, 2016 01:36
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Astroniomix posted:Yes but are you flying it the same? Better by at least 300%, you scrub 
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Feb 25, 2016 01:37
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El Grillo posted:Did you go full anime?
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Mercurius posted:Never not go full anime. FTFY
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Feb 25, 2016 02:07
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Yeah, when are we getting Ace Combat style Idolmaster skins for our spaceships???
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TorakFade posted:Frankly if you're not in someone's face while dogfighting you're wasting time anyways. Ballistics miss a lot more and lasers do less damage (at least it seems so), and you want to be less than 1km away when you shoot somebody. This is my philosophy. I also like to engage boosters and ram my target to take down their shields too 
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I just learned that I'm bad with railguns and since I've noticed that I've almost got enough rank for the courier and we're all talking about anaconda theorycraft: "Allahu" stealth torpedo courier: http://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial_courier/22A3A3A1D3A2D3C2i2i2i000002026i2v27272724.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA== If you fit nothing but turrets, will you get me before I get you? DreadLlama fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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DreadLlama posted:I also like ramming things. It is not because I ignore the blue bits on the throttle and can't kill anything if I'm not in vulture. Anyways I just learned that I'm bad with railguns and since I've noticed that I've almost got enough rank for the courier and we're all talking about theorycraft: Depends on if they have shields or not. Also take care not to accidentally fly in front of your own torpedoes.
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What's the best way to get imperial rank if you haven't horizons? I feel like empirical testing is required.
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So, Robigo bulletin board scumming. You know how you can make missions on the open bulletin board "stick"? When the missions eventually disappear, quitting to desktop and logging back in seems to bring all those missions back. I don't know just how they managed to program this to happen, but there you go.
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BMan posted:So, Robigo bulletin board scumming. You know how you can make missions on the open bulletin board "stick"? When the missions eventually disappear, quitting to desktop and logging back in seems to bring all those missions back. I don't know just how they managed to program this to happen, but there you go. Of course, that assumption doesn't take into account the horrendous matchmaking or the fact that players who actively try and do missions together probably make up 0.1% or less of the playerbase so it's ended up with the problems we have now. Quite typical for MMO devs, really.
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So guys can anyone tell me about turrets and lasers? I feel like there's a lot of uncovered ground to discuss there and I'd love to read another dozen pages of ~~~objective~~~ opinions and EVE-style data-sperging.
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Mercurius posted:The bulletin board missions work as they do currently because Frontier built them around the idea that wings would want to be able to get the same missions at once. As someone who plays in a group 99.9% of the time, I do appreciate their efforts.
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Vorenus posted:So guys can anyone tell me about turrets and lasers? I feel like there's a lot of uncovered ground to discuss there and I'd love to read another dozen pages of ~~~objective~~~ opinions and EVE-style data-sperging. Listen if you aren't doing ~objectively better thing IMO so no wait actually that's subjectively I guess~ then arghlebargleblargh
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Tank Boy Ken posted:As someone who plays in a group 99.9% of the time, I do appreciate their efforts.
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Mercurius posted:How often do the people in your group try and take the same missions from the bulletin board? I didn't know about that. I was actually speaking in general. Since we (my wonderful beloved one and me) just started playing ED yesterday.
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BMan posted:So, Robigo bulletin board scumming. You know how you can make missions on the open bulletin board "stick"? When the missions eventually disappear, quitting to desktop and logging back in seems to bring all those missions back. I don't know just how they managed to program this to happen, but there you go. Also, you can just quit the high-yield instance, open another then immediately quit that and head back to the stuck high-yield one. There's no need to open the bulletin board then quit before the missions list appears. Surprise Giraffe fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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DancingShade posted:Finally did some Robigo smuggling in my python last night to see how it all worked. Good money - made 22 million in about an hour and a half. How do you do these runs without getting scanned? I got all the way to my destination then it was some open outpost so I couldn't just mailslot in past the security.
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Sylink posted:How do you do these runs without getting scanned? I got all the way to my destination then it was some open outpost so I couldn't just mailslot in past the security. I've never seen cops at an outpost, they're totally devoid of security. Presumably for this reason.
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Sylink posted:How do you do these runs without getting scanned? I got all the way to my destination then it was some open outpost so I couldn't just mailslot in past the security. That's just it - you do. Be prepared to fail a lot if you fly something as slow as a python. You have to shoot whatever interdicts you to interrupt their scan and jump out. It all goes to poo poo when a second ship you didn't pay attention to scans you as well. That happened to me twice in a row.  If I was to return to Robigo smuggling I'd only consider a cobra mk III or an asp explorer. Not one of those crappy D rated "best jump range" trade/explorer ones, I'd A-rate it. Why? You'll want a good capacitor to power your A-rated thrusters while you use 4 pips to GTFO of any interdictions. Planetary outposts are the best destinations because once you enter the atmosphere nothing ever seems to bother you.
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I was in a combat kitted ASP, there we two green security who scanned me and no where to hide. Is the strategy just to leave and come back ? This is an orbital outpost not surface.
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Vorenus posted:So guys can anyone tell me about turrets and lasers? I feel like there's a lot of uncovered ground to discuss there and I'd love to read another dozen pages of ~~~objective~~~ opinions and EVE-style data-sperging.
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Sylink posted:I was in a combat kitted ASP, there we two green security who scanned me and no where to hide. Is the strategy just to leave and come back ? This is an orbital outpost not surface. Boost away and circle back once you've given them the slip. You can also try logging back to menu and restarting your instance as well but sometimes the game just spawns security forces on you no matter what because of the missions.
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Outposts don't have security, full stop. What most likely happened is you had system sec tailing you in supercruise, and they dropped out on top of you when you exited. You can avoid this (if you notice you have a tail, always be watching Contacts) by slowing down to let them interdict, and then evading it. If you're close to the outpost you can also submit, and then either shoot them or run (I prefer the latter) before jumping back into supercruise. Often they won't give chase afterwards. If you can beat them at the interdiction minigame they'll always give up, so that's even better. The thing I like about smuggling is that there's always something you could have done better to avoid detection. The only time you can get hosed by Lady Luck is coming out of supercruise at a coriolis starport, where cops for some reason hang out on all sides of the station. If you drop out on top of one, shoot, run, and pray. I usually do outposts and planets first, to guarantee that chunk of my paycheck before I go hit the mailslot stations
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Ordnance Survey released their first Mars map and it's awesome - got me thinking though, has Frontier talked about making Mars land-able at some point?I know they're still working on our Moon at the moment. Also has anyone tried Horizons Detail FX?
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