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McNerd posted:So Ammon Bundy "taught" his own lawyer how to read the Constitution? Hold your laughter until the judge brings down the sentence, beginning with 'if you hadn't pulled this SovCit bullshit on me, your sentence wouldn't be in the triple digits.'
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Hah, did we talk about this idiot yet?quote:“I'm getting sick and tired of all this crap that's going on,” Kenneth Francis says on a video he uploaded [to YouTube] in December titled “Need Help Getting a Gun? You'll never guess what happened next.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:31
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Bill so far: 3.3 million. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/33_million_and_counting_the_co.html#incart_big-photoquote:Not included in the tally were things like added demand for food and services at the Harney County Senior Center. The nonprofit, with more than $1 million in annual revenue, runs a food pantry and administers federal energy assistance. These idiots were taking food for needy people from food banks. Remember http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/firearms_explosives_and_trench.html quote:The FBI Evidence Response Team began its work last Friday. The team initially found "significant amounts'' of human feces in and around the outdoor camping area and "large food stores that are spoiling'' in living quarters on the refuge outside Burns, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Ethan Knight and Geoffrey Barrow wrote So they had "large food stores" but were begging online and literally taking charity from the county food bank. In a county of 10k people.
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Feb 24, 2016 21:54
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I'm going to guess the "large food stores" was either food that required more than a middling knowledge, or poo poo, any knowledge of cooking, or was stuff like vegetables. They probably wanted those boxes of White Castle hamburgers you can buy in the grocery store and heat in the microwave. Or cans of franks and beans.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:21
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Angela Christine posted:These idiots were taking food for needy people from food banks. I'd love to hear their comments on how  urban culture abuses food banks and other safety net programs 
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Feb 24, 2016 22:25
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Just heard it on NPR. Ammon and Co. have officially entered not guilty pleas for the federal conspiracy charges.
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Feb 25, 2016 03:35
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Feb 25, 2016 03:37
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cumshitter posted:Just heard it on NPR. Ammon and Co. have officially entered not guilty pleas for the federal conspiracy charges. Modern day Rosa Parks.
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Feb 25, 2016 05:03
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Both went to jail for refusing to rise from their seat for a white man, just in Ammon's case it's the judge.
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Feb 25, 2016 05:09
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cumshitter posted:Just heard it on NPR. Ammon and Co. have officially entered not guilty pleas for the federal conspiracy charges. I don't know why I thought the funny part was over. That was a silly thing to think.
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Feb 25, 2016 09:26
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Ammon thought they were going to let him accompany his lawyer to the refuge for a fact finding trip
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Feb 25, 2016 10:27
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Casimir Radon posted:Ammon thought they were going to let him accompany his lawyer to the refuge for a fact finding trip Well a ship in harbor is safe but that's not what ships are for. Here is my legal person's berth certificate. I wish to create joinder with my attorney's buick.
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Feb 25, 2016 10:57
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Casimir Radon posted:Ammon thought they were going to let him accompany his lawyer to the refuge for a fact finding trip
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Feb 25, 2016 10:59
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It's just so telling that they were raiding a food bank to feed dozens of people, all while having a bunch of food rotting on the property that I guess they just didn't like. I refuse to believe it was a "couldn't make" situation because they had at least the break room microwave and campfires
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Epic High Five posted:It's just so telling that they were raiding a food bank to feed dozens of people, all while having a bunch of food rotting on the property that I guess they just didn't like. I refuse to believe it was a "couldn't make" situation because they had at least the break room microwave and campfires "we're gonna be here for years, we need to ration these supplies!  "edit: or "the million man militia will show up to start the next civil war aaany day now, and we'll need to feed them! "
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Feb 25, 2016 14:08
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autoaim.cfg posted:Wasn't the Eye of the Needle gate in Jerusalem built in the 16th century, though? I've always leaned towards the theory that "kamilos" (rope) was mistranslated as "kamelos" (camel) somewhere down the line. That would make sense, i.e. a "trying to thread a needle with a rope" metaphor. The more pro interpretation is that "rope through a needle" was an existing euphemism and Jesus was making a pretty sweet pun to burn rich people
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Feb 25, 2016 16:13
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Sovereign Citizents are basically Mr. Mxyzptlk except you defeat them by getting them to say they're a boat or creating joinder. Edit: Yes! It's starting off slow but we're in for a real poo poo show. Source The Oregonian posted:
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Feb 25, 2016 18:57
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The gently caress is jointer
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Darth123123 posted:The gently caress is jointer Exactly. But in so many words, because most sovcits are idiots they think legal terminology is akin to witchcraft, so things like 'create joinder' or 'admiralty court' are their own magic spells that they think will get them out of trouble. Also lol that they can't understand why taking over a wildlife refuge with guns is the reason they're in pretrial detention. The comedy is only just beginning.
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Feb 25, 2016 22:58
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Darth123123 posted:The gently caress is jointer You know how via a contract, you can agree to act as, say, the CEO of Apple, or as my wedding photographer? And through this contract, by agreeing to these roles, both parties incur certain responsibilities? Sovcits have the ridiculous idea that this is how criminal law and citizenship works. When you are born the government issues a birth certificate, which creates a legal identity for you. This identity is a corporation (named after you, but spelled in all capital letters) which possesses all the benefits of citizenship but also has to pay taxes and obey traffic laws and whatever. But if you just calmly say "No deal, I do not want to be that guy you made up," then they have to let you just walk around with a rocket launcher not paying taxes. As long as you don't let them trick you into creating joinder, ie as long as you don't agree to legally join your corporate and your physical personas together, you get to do whatever you want. Also you can cash out ten million dollars from the magical government trust that for some reason exists in your name. Hopefully I need not explain why and how this is completely bananas.
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Feb 25, 2016 23:17
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It's the logic of saying "I'm secretly the king of america but nobody knows about it. You have to give me special treatment" but then when nobody knows about it you're reduced to screaming the secret at the top of your lungs as you are tased and arrested and jailed for 20 years for declaring yourself the judge and sentencing the imposter judge to death at your trial. If you had to be clued in to this One Weird Trick then guess what literally nobody, not the police, not the media, not the bystanders watching your adult temper tantrum, literally loving nobody is going to respect your magic words or the fact that you wore a loose approximation of judges robes to the court room thinking that gives you the authority to dismiss the charges and award yourself damages. You have to be extremely loving desperate, and very very dumb, to be a sovereign citizen. I have to believe that up to half the dumb-ness is willful because of the desperation.
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Feb 25, 2016 23:30
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theflyingorc posted:The more pro interpretation is that "rope through a needle" was an existing euphemism and Jesus was making a pretty sweet pun to burn rich people
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Feb 25, 2016 23:32
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You can tell it's a grift that's been slowly burning for years because of all the "and also"s tacked onto the description. Grifters have been having to make loftier and loftier promises over the years to get people to buy their brand of SovCit, so where it started as "you can live alone and the feds won't bother you", it's now morphed into "the Feds owe you billions of dollars in silver and you can fire and lynch any of them you like"
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Feb 25, 2016 23:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qzidxqDmcQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNy4AeGiKrY Just think of the e/n threads those kids could turn out in a couple of years. And here's Amon's lawyer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Se6g28WjM&t=85s
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Feb 25, 2016 23:49
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XMNN posted:a kamilos kamelos pun? i thought he spoke aramaic It's definitely wishful thinking on my part, but it isn't impossible. He almost certainly spoke primarily aramaic, but there are some subset of scholars who argue that he knew some greek. so, because I want it to be a super awesome pun, i will assume that he did. there are much worse reasons for biblical interpretation
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Feb 26, 2016 00:05
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Darth123123 posted:The gently caress is jointer This is a jointer.  hth
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Feb 26, 2016 00:08
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lol not guilty buckle up folks, yet more tax dollars gonna be spent on our entertainment
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Feb 26, 2016 00:15
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The YouTube comments for Ammon's lawyer are just a bunch of SovCits accusing him of being a secret federal agent who purposely created joinder for the Bundies in court lol
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Feb 26, 2016 00:28
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cumshitter posted:The YouTube comments for Ammon's lawyer are just a bunch of SovCits accusing him of being a secret federal agent who purposely created joinder for the Bundies in court lol Source?
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Feb 26, 2016 00:58
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Mentos Dan's post.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Source? here
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quote:This lawyer will have them in prison for life.. he has already given the government all they need.. subject jurisdiction matter.. and as their own property.. not as a living human being with full natural and unalienable rights... These men are fried for as long as the government wants them to be fried.. quote:So, you sold out your client to accept the legal fictional name as himself.. you are destroying his chances of being free.. He is not amenable to any of the laws of the state.. as living souls, we are the highest authority on this planet only Christ and God higher.. and they are our judges.. unless there is a victim or property damage, then there is no crime, and why did you not claim common law jurisdiction for these living human beings you call your client, and are you going to Re Present them, or will you simply give them counsel as they defend themselves?? Show me the evidence that any of the laws of the State or Federal government apply to them simply because they are physically within a line drawn on a map?? As both are corporations, show me where any of them signed a full disclosure contract in which they were obligated to follow the rules and regulations of either.. There is no signed contract is there??
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Feb 26, 2016 07:30
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lol the less of these shitheads around to vote trump the better
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Feb 26, 2016 12:23
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Aren't sovcits normally against illegal immigrants? If so that's loving hilarious.
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Feb 26, 2016 12:38
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Funded Justice is a cyberbegging/crowdfunding site for defendant's seeking donations towards their legal bills, and there's probably enough material there for it's own thread. Of course many of the Bundy gang have tried to get in on the action, lets see how their fundraising is going: Jon Ritzheimer has: SUPPORTERS 80 PLEDGED $3,735 TIME LEFT 15 days Ryan Payne has: SUPPORTERS 37 PLEDGED $2,096 TIME LEFT 75 days Ammon Bundy is way out in front with: SUPPORTERS 1093 PLEDGED $80,415 TIME LEFT 1 day All of them have set their target to $100,000. If the target is not met they still get to keep the money.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:
Well, duh. Most of these guys are using public defenders. Their lawyers are paid by the government, ergo, they work for the government. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
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Feb 26, 2016 17:21
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theflyingorc posted:It's definitely wishful thinking on my part, but it isn't impossible. He almost certainly spoke primarily aramaic, but there are some subset of scholars who argue that he knew some greek. I'm partial to the argument that as a carpenter from Nazareth he likely spent most of his working life involved with the ongoing expansion of the nearby international port Caeserea, and it was his encounters with eastern Mediterranean rich people and Roman authorities there that radicalized him.
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The bundy's lawyer has had an ethics complaint filed against him with the Oregon State Bar by the prosecution.The Oregonian posted:The district attorney of Oregon’s northwesternmost county has filed an ethics complaint against a pair of Eugene lawyers who represent the now-jailed leader of a militia group that took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January, calling them out for the media attention they’ve sought since their client’s arrest.
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Feb 26, 2016 18:40
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cumshitter posted:The bundy's lawyer has had an ethics complaint filed against him with the Oregon State Bar by the prosecution. The Bundys never cease being honeypots for the crazed idiots.
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Alan Smithee posted:lol Can't they still vote? They aren't convicted felons yet!
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