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http://www.armytimes.com/story/sports/2016/02/22/staff-sergeant-qualifies-rio-olympics-race-walk/80747436/quote:Staff Sgt. John Nunn, an active-duty soldier with the Army World Class Athlete Program, qualified for his third U.S. Olympic team Sunday by taking first place in the 50-kilometer race walk trials outside San Diego. I wonder if this dude is like "nah you guys can run I'ma walk" and throws down a 10 minute race walk 2 mile run.
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I bet NCOs still yell at him to stop walking.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:53
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do they still try to push the "person leading PT does everything the opposite of the formation" thing that came with PRT? When I was in FORSCOM last in 2011 that was a thing some people (not many) took very seriously. I always thought it was dumb as gently caress. I mean if he is sticking out his left leg, then I'm going to stick out my left leg. IDK why they wanted to change that.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:58
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Is this real life?  http://www.armytimes.com/story/mili...-apft/80566724/ quote:The Army is on the eve of rolling out new MOS-specific, gender-neutral fitness tests, and new details have begun to emerge.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:01
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Because the army is retarded. This is always the answer.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:02
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Yeah, it sounds odd how and what they want, it doesn't make sense to me, any more than the fitness test they wanted to come out with like 3-4 years ago
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Feb 24, 2016 17:03
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spacetoaster posted:Is this real life? in my time there were like 2-3 different PT tests, rifles, uniforms, promotion systems and a million other things that according to ArmyTimes were just around the corner I mean poo poo man you've done like twice as much time as me, it always stays the same gay army also can't read that because of paywall
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Feb 24, 2016 17:04
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spacetoaster posted:Is this real life? No, they're just going to get it up to final testing/calibrating or whatever before they throw it all out, just like last time.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:05
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i just hope there is a proper event for measuring "heart" CSM chandler lol what a maroon
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Feb 24, 2016 17:07
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grader: GIVE ME SOME MOTIVATION AND HEART SOLDIER Soldier: *makes grimacing face* Grader: that's an 80/100 grimace score!
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Feb 24, 2016 17:09
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Icon Of Sin posted:No, they're just going to get it up to final testing/calibrating or whatever before they throw it all out, just like last time. I actually took one of those new PT tests with a group testing at a large base. Let me tell you about the standing long jump. If you've ever wanted to injure every muscle/tendon/joint in your body at the same time, that's the thing to do. Every guy over 20 hurt something. And I don't think a single female was able to pass it.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:09
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:
My bad. Here: quote:The Army is on the eve of rolling out new MOS-specific, gender-neutral fitness tests, and new details have begun to emerge. quote:The tests likely will incorporate exercises that soldiers will need on the battlefield I could make jokes here.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:10
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spacetoaster posted:My bad. Here: Monkey-fuckers confirmed!
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Feb 24, 2016 17:13
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spacetoaster posted:Is this real life? It seems like not the worst idea of all time, but maybe that's just me. It's also a good way to give the Ranger Gals a fair shot at the previously segregated spots while denying butthurt males any legit argument about uneven standards.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:13
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The problem is with gender neutral tier 3 standards for minimally qualifying. Either women who just want to be a clerk have to be really physically exceptional or men who want desk jobs will never need to PT in order to pass. Weight regs rather than APFT will be the only real reason to work out for those guys. I don't think it would be terrible, but I can't see the CSMs standing for it.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:00
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When the TRADOC commander briefed us on this it seemed like the fitness test was not going to replace the APFT. It was only going to be used to qualify people enlisting for a certain MOS and was pretty much the test they make kids applying to the service academies take (basketball throw, beep test, etc)
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Feb 24, 2016 19:11
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so it will be on USAREC to administer this test? LOL, or MEPs, either way, it will never happen.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:13
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I'm sure they'd readminister it at reception or basic. If you're a day zero failure they can kick you back and reclass you through the general BCT pool rather than OSUT. More work for the AG battalion though.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:23
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:do they still try to push the "person leading PT does everything the opposite of the formation" thing that came with PRT? When I was in FORSCOM last in 2011 that was a thing some people (not many) took very seriously. Yeah, the leader is supposed to mirror the formation so if on the first count the left leg goes back, he puts his right leg back. It's dumb as gently caress. Also the bike alternate event kinda sucked compared to the walk. The times I've seen it done, you get put on a stationary and it has to be calibrated or some poo poo with the right resistance. I hate hate hate doing the walk for pt tests. I'd rather run, but I can't run, but I'm getting out and haven't taken a PT test in 3 years. Suck it. CQ shift today. Got my last one on Monday because I have to cover for someone. Easy.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:55
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spacetoaster posted:Is this real life? That motherfuckers haircut that is doing the pushup makes me want to soccer kick that oval office in the head.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:22
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I wanna cut that vein. It so big 
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Feb 24, 2016 21:36
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spacetoaster posted:
800 meters 22 minutes? That isn't that rough *if* you know how to swim. Knowing correct form and how to do s turn is super important. Otherwise you work against yourself.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:24
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spacetoaster posted:Is this real life? loving lol “Most women aren’t going to be able to meet the infantry MOS standard, just like most American men can’t meet the infantry MOS standard,” Murphy said.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:43
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That's a pretty silly statement. He's kind of correct, but he's forgetting that anybody who gets in shape can pass an APFT. It's not difficult. No, of course the average fatass off the street can't PT to save their own life. 
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Feb 24, 2016 22:47
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Infantry is only for the most elite and physically fit operators, just ignore that 260lb E6 with a broken back and kneecaps ground to dust and that 5'9 PFC whos 132lbs soaking wet.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:48
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throw in a 200 pound bench rest requirement to weed out the real twinks and call it a day.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:56
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I still say if the Army actually wanted people to be in shape, they'd make the APFT a triathlon.
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Feb 25, 2016 02:05
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If that happens someone will be like: We gotta make this combat realistic so 45 lb ruck on all 3 events
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Feb 25, 2016 02:09
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Litter carry during the swim, low crawl with your bike the final 200m.
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Feb 25, 2016 02:44
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Making a fitness test a prerequisite for certain MOSes is the stupidest loving thing I have ever heard, that's what smokings in OSUT and PUHLES scores are for jesus christ peacetime army is retarded We had something similar because the BC got a stick up his rear end about copying the test the 75th had, wear an IOTV and carry some ammo cans on balance beams and vault over a wall and bear crawl, because that's not arbitrary and stupid at all. Our 1SG was height-challenged and couldn't vault over the wall despite being in perfectly good physical condition- it's ridiculous. Want the PT test to be gender-neutral? Just make everyone be graded on the same scale for combat arms jobs. There's no reason women can't do 8 chin-ups or 60-some push-ups or be good at running, the Army just makes everyone think they can't by treating women differently.
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Feb 25, 2016 04:44
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not caring here posted:That motherfuckers haircut that is doing the pushup makes me want to soccer kick that oval office in the head. You seem to be caring there.
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Feb 25, 2016 04:50
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New PT test: See how many green weenies you can fit up your rear end. If it's less than 4, non combat arms.
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Feb 25, 2016 04:55
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Justin Tyme posted:Making a fitness test a prerequisite for certain MOSes is the stupidest loving thing I have ever heard, that's what smokings in OSUT and PUHLES scores are for jesus christ peacetime army is retarded So like it was pretty tough when you were in but now it sucks huh
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Feb 25, 2016 07:20
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Army Thread: I'll have dick with a side of dick, please.
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I'm a page late to swim chat for fitness tests, but I might have some insight into the passing time calculation. When they were setting the passing time for various age ranges in the navy, they tested various service members of all ranks and age groups for the (at the time) two cardio events, running 1.5 miles and swimming either 500 yards or 450 meters (different times for each) depending on the pool setup. Even today the numbers persist. For a 17-19 year old, they have to do the 1.5 mile in 12:30 or swim 500 yards in 12:45 (450m in 12:35) at a minimum and max at 8:15 and 6:30 respectively. As you get older, the numbers get bigger for the run, but no so much for the swim. Age 35-39 men have to run between 9:25 to max and 15:00 as a minimum (2.5 minutes of more time) vs swim where the max/min shifts only to 6:53 and 13:23. You have to get to the 60-64 age bracket to break 14 minutes max time on the swim yet they get almost 19 minutes on the run. The reason the run numbers get significantly easier but the swim times never do is that the people who were the samples for the swim test are your lifetime/almost daily swimmers. No one else volunteered for it. These are also the only people who use the swim test. EDIT: I don't know why I spent time typing all of this up for a bunch of people who certainly don't care. I blame the dayquil.
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Feb 25, 2016 14:01
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So what you're saying is that the army is dumb as gently caress
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Wasabi the J posted:You seem to be caring there. Normally I have a standard level of zero fucks. That dickhead gave so many, many fucks that it forced me out of my non gently caress status into a positive gently caress position so the only sound mathematical solution is to kick that gently caress in his fucks thus unfucking the gently caress super position, and releasing all those pent up fucks into the wild. Also, here's 4 things the army sucks at teaching / doing so no one should be surprised when they suck at it. 1. Physical fitness and strength 2. Gun stuff and shooting junk 3. Driving 4. Winning wars.
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But they're super loving top notch at teaching people how to grind their feet and knees into a fine, arthritic paste! Hey guys Monday we're gonna ruck 10 miles with 50 pound packs and no lead up events. Then Wednesday we'll do trail runs in combat boots and Friday we'll relax with a brigade run event where you progress forward slower than a walking pace, if not a complete stop or slightly backwards, but you slam your feet up and down with the cadence caller the whole time or your a poo poo bag. That is an actual week I had in Korea. Ask me about the plates and screws holding my foot together and what traumatic arthritis in the knees and back is, go ahead.
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I remember learning absolutely nothing about shooting in OSUT. The only saving grace of the entire thing was that we were exposed to so many ranges, and simulation ranges to learn how to zero and get a proper sight picture that when it came time to qualify people actually made it through. Which is another story in and of itself, there were so many individuals that had to attempt BRM qual over...and over.......and over it was insane. poo poo, even after going to the firing line 3-4 times people had to wait until the next company would go to the range, get shuttled out with them and shoot.
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SumYungGui posted:But they're super loving top notch at teaching people how to grind their feet and knees into a fine, arthritic paste! This is crazy, but I support PT mostly on your own as long as you're passing your APFT. With fitness training/classes by people who are actually certified in personal training.
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