Pokemon Megathread 6.0: You'd have to have mega stones to not play this.

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Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

If Blissey became a fairy type I would cry, and no one wants to see that

# ? Feb 25, 2016 05:58

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 01:46

Veks: May 12, 2012; OOOOOOH MYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Cuckoo posted:

Why is anyone surprised the Ice megas and new ice types range from poor to awful when Gamefreak has had a hate boner for Ice types since Gen II?

Apparently in Gen 1 there were a whole bunch of subtle differences in Ice that made it better. Like I think Fire hits were neutral, Blizzard's accuracy was higher, stuff like that.

Fire hits were neutral because almost all Ice types from Gen I are also Water types. :v:

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:22

Filthy Haiku: Oct 22, 2010; i am shattering like glass

but at least
i have

springy ride

I'm honestly just shocked that Ice has no real resistances to speak of for 6 whole generations. You know. ice. The relatively hard stuff.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:24

the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

Veks posted:

Fire hits were neutral because almost all Ice types from Gen I are also Water types.

Hits against fire were neutral, though. That resistance only came into being in Gen 2.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:26

ApplesandOranges: Jun 22, 2012; Thankee kindly.

Geostomp posted:

Totally forgot about her. She kinda fades into the background as a retroactive stone evolver (from one of the rarest stones) and being contrasted with her horrifying counterpart Glalie. Maybe if she got a mega, that would change.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if she got one after Gallade got one as well.

And Ice/Ghost would be a decent offensive typing - though hilariously shut down by Pyroar and Azumarill of all Pokemon.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:26

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Talks like this make me really, really wish Gamefreak would bite the bullet and remake the entire type chart with something like each type being strong against and weak/immune to a certain number of others. Make something approaching balance instead of running off moon logic.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:27

ApplesandOranges: Jun 22, 2012; Thankee kindly.

Gabriel Pope posted:

Hits against fire were neutral, though. That resistance only came into being in Gen 2.

It only came into play because people were sick of it being super effective against their Charizards. :colbert:

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:28

the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

Geostomp posted:

Talks like this make me really, really wish Gamefreak would bite the bullet and remake the entire type chart with something like each type being strong against and weak/immune to a certain number of others. Make something approaching balance instead of running off moon logic.

Asymmetrical balance is cool and good though (not that the type chart wouldn't benefit from an overhaul, but giving everything the same number/proportion of strengths and weaknesses is something only autists care about.)

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:32

Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

Gabriel Pope posted:

Asymmetrical balance is cool and good though (not that the type chart wouldn't benefit from an overhaul, but giving everything the same number/proportion of strengths and weaknesses is something only autists care about.)

Yeah I agree minus mental illness as a pejorative

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:39

Brother Entropy: Dec 27, 2009

Filthy Haiku posted:

I'm honestly just shocked that Ice has no real resistances to speak of for 6 whole generations. You know. ice. The relatively hard stuff.

if ice is so hard why can i break it with my teeth

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:48

Kite Pride Worldwide: Apr 20, 2009

Brother Entropy posted:

if ice is so hard why can i break it with my teeth

Your teeth are Rock-type :colbert:

Ice should resist Grass and Flying at the very least, and maybe Dragon.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 07:01

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Alabaster White posted:

Your teeth are Rock-type

Ice should resist Grass and Flying at the very least, and maybe Dragon.

Yeah, literally the last loving thing Grass needs is more things that resist it.

Have Ice resist Fighting and Ground.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 07:04

Mr. Creakle: Apr 27, 2007; Protecting your virginity

Zore posted:

Yeah, literally the last loving thing Grass needs is more things that resist it.

Have Ice resist Fighting and Ground.

Those make sense, or at least as much sense as dragon being ice weak does. Those would be some loving excellent immunities too, it would give all of the ice types cursed with physically defensive stats something to do besides die.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 07:23

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

Cuckoo posted:

Those make sense, or at least as much sense as dragon being ice weak does. Those would be some loving excellent immunities too, it would give all of the ice types cursed with physically defensive stats something to do besides die.

Dragon's weak to ice because the ice age killed the dinosaurs.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 08:05

Kite Pride Worldwide: Apr 20, 2009

The only weakness I've never been able to figure out a reason for is Psychic > Poison. Everything else is pretty self-evident or has a clever explanation, but that one is just :shrug:

# ? Feb 25, 2016 09:13

Paul.Power: Feb 7, 2009; The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Alabaster White posted:

The only weakness I've never been able to figure out a reason for is Psychic > Poison. Everything else is pretty self-evident or has a clever explanation, but that one is just

Mind over matter?

# ? Feb 25, 2016 09:14

CJ: Jul 3, 2007; Asbungold

Alabaster White posted:

The only weakness I've never been able to figure out a reason for is Psychic > Poison. Everything else is pretty self-evident or has a clever explanation, but that one is just

I always assume that sort of stuff comes from weird japanese folklore.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 09:17

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

Raar_Im_A_Dinosaur posted:

I think that if there's a move that only a lower evolution can learn, and you evolve it, with a stone for example, before that level, it never learns it and thus can't re-learn it.

Sacred Sword can only be learned by doublade, so if you evolve it into aegislash too early you're hosed.

No, Aegislash has Sacred Sword in its move list so you can go to the Move Reminder for it. All the gen VI stone evos have this QOL feature, other examples are Moonblast on Florges and Electrify on Heliolisk.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 10:15

Theta Zero: Dec 22, 2014; I've seen it.

I like the theory of Psychic's weaknesses being based off of common fears--bugs, ghosts, and the dark.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 10:27

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

ApplesandOranges posted:

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if she got one after Gallade got one as well.

Slowking too then

# ? Feb 25, 2016 10:32

Elfgames: Sep 11, 2011; Fun Shoe

Theta Zero posted:

I like the theory of Psychic's weaknesses being based off of common fears--bugs, ghosts, and the dark.

evil is also a pretty big fear

# ? Feb 25, 2016 11:02

Aithon: Jan 3, 2014; Every puzzle has an answer.

Alabaster White posted:

Your teeth are Rock-type

No, it's common knowledge that teeth are Dark-type.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 11:10

Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Alabaster White posted:

The only weakness I've never been able to figure out a reason for is Psychic > Poison. Everything else is pretty self-evident or has a clever explanation, but that one is just

The psychic Pokemon are using their mind powers to rupture the venom sacs inside of the poison Pokemon. This cause's the venom to leak out and damage other internal organs.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 11:22

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

Aithon posted:

No, it's common knowledge that teeth are Dark-type.

Yeah that's why Bite and Crunch got retyped to Dark.

Unless you have elemental teeth like Fire Fang/Thunder Fang/Ice Fang

# ? Feb 25, 2016 11:32

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Kurieg posted:

Dragon's weak to ice because the ice age killed the dinosaurs.

No it's because dragons are cool but ice is cooler

# ? Feb 25, 2016 12:25

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Zore posted:

Yeah, literally the last loving thing Grass needs is more things that resist it.

Have Ice resist Fighting and Ground.

Ice should be immune to Water. Also, Dragon should be weak to Steel and Grass should resist Rock and lose the weakness to Flying (with Flying losing its Grass resistance). Toss in Water being weak to Poison.

Edit: Steel weak to Electric as well.

Geostomp fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Feb 25, 2016

# ? Feb 25, 2016 14:37

Mr. Creakle: Apr 27, 2007; Protecting your virginity

EDIT ^^^ those type changes make so much more sense

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

The psychic Pokemon are using their mind powers to rupture the venom sacs inside of the poison Pokemon. This cause's the venom to leak out and damage other internal organs.

Does it make me a terrible person to want to see this animated ingame whenever a super effective Psychic attack hits a Poison type? :unsmigghh:

I'd bet the weirdish holdover types like Psychic/Poison are holdovers from Gen 1 where after figuring out the ones that would make the most sense, like Water being not very effective to Grass, they had a bunch of types left over with no obvious weaknesses and went "uhhh gently caress it" and glued the rest together.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 14:40

Saoshyant: Oct 26, 2010

Oh dear.

The Sun and the Moon
I cannot say that I was ready for this.
But when worlds collide,
and all that I have is all that I want.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:03

mabels big day: Feb 25, 2012

Mega Solrock and Mega Lunatone

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:04

Saoshyant: Oct 26, 2010

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:09

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Well I guess the completely new Pokemon reveal was kind of a giveaway.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:10

Mr. Creakle: Apr 27, 2007; Protecting your virginity

Saoshyant posted:

Oh dear.

The Sun and the Moon
I cannot say that I was ready for this.
But when worlds collide,
and all that I have is all that I want.

Lol they are really running out of creative ways to imply Red and Blue aren't they?

Still, ohshitohshit maybe this means we actually will get some news regarding the main games soon :dance:

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:11

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Saoshyant posted:

Oh dear.

The Sun and the Moon
I cannot say that I was ready for this.
But when worlds collide,
and all that I have is all that I want.

I guess this means good things for sun and moon themed guys like Espeon and Umbreon.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:11

Dunban: Jul 4, 2012; OH MY GOD GLOVER

Hmm, judging by the names alone those might actually be Gen 7 games.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:13

Mr. Creakle: Apr 27, 2007; Protecting your virginity

Geostomp posted:

I guess this means good things for sun and moon themed guys like Espeon and Umbreon.

I bet you all my pokedollars that there will be 2 box legends related to the sun and moon but Espeon/Umbreon/Solrock/Lunatone/any older Pokemon already relating to day/night will be completely forgotten.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:14

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Cuckoo posted:

I bet you all my pokedollars that there will be 2 box legends related to the sun and moon but Espeon/Umbreon/Solrock/Lunatone/any older Pokemon already relating to day/night will be completely forgotten.

There's always mega evolutions. Wonder where we're going this time, Poke-Mexico?

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:15

Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010; Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Rip Gen 6, you were ok

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:16

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

Cuckoo posted:

I bet you all my pokedollars that there will be 2 box legends related to the sun and moon but Espeon/Umbreon/Solrock/Lunatone/any older Pokemon already relating to day/night will be completely forgotten.

Primal Sunflora incoming

# ? Feb 25, 2016 15:17