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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5S3e5St_5Y

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stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Howard Beale posted:

Just dial down the middle: 800 C-A-L-L A-T-T!
Save a buck or two or three!

Cheaper than 1-800-COLLECT!

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

stubblyhead posted:

Cheaper than 1-800-COLLECT!



https://youtu.be/8k1UOEYIQRo

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

Data Graham posted:

Just dial 10-10-220

Wow, I forgot all about that. I actually used that back in the day.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Some commercial breaks there would be like two or three of those goddamn things.

I knew deep down that someday the economics of it would work out such that it was no longer profitable to make those ridiculous ads for those prefix services that would change every two months and people would scurry back and forth chasing another 20 cents per minute of savings on their long distance land-line calling, but for the longest time it was hard to hold on to that faith

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

God, this discussion reminds me of Don Adams as the spokesperson for Buck-a-Call.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUXeyT1MrHw

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's just crazy that now all my friends have different area codes and it doesn't even matter.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

God, this discussion reminds me of Don Adams as the spokesperson for Buck-a-Call.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUXeyT1MrHw

Is that the heavens gate guy

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Is that the heavens gate guy

That's Don Adams: comedian and star of Get Smart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGA7eyWeAA

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Data Graham posted:

Just dial 10-10-220

Cojawfee posted:

Oh jeez, these 10-10 numbers. John Lithgow's 10-10-321 commercials.

I always wondered if the IT people at those companies set up their internal office networks to use the 10.10.220.xxx or 10.10.321.xxx IP ranges. I hope so.

The Bible
May 8, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

Powered Descent posted:

I always wondered if the IT people at those companies set up their internal office networks to use the 10.10.220.xxx or 10.10.321.xxx IP ranges. I hope so.

Not 10.10.321.xxx for sure.

John Denver Hoxha
May 31, 2014

What a persistent nightmare!
....but enough about my posts
dial *69 for the number, date, and time

lol

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

The_Franz posted:

That's Don Adams: comedian and star of Get Smart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGA7eyWeAA

Also the voice of Inspector Gadget.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

The Bible posted:

Not 10.10.321.xxx for sure.

Good point. :downs:

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I was needing a pre-paid phone card for long distance calling a while back and was really surprised not only by how hard it was to find one, how few there were and the prices of them seemed odd.

I know one time I was out of town, no cell phone, and really needed to make a call home and I very nearly just bought a cheap Tracfone because it was going to end up costing me nearly the same as finding a prepaid card, finding a still-working phone booth, losing a LOT of minutes just for the service fee of using a pay phone, etc.

edit: I actually was cleaning out an drawer recently and found a promotional phone card from the ET rerelease from about 15 years ago. Yeah, those minutes are expired.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

stubblyhead posted:

Cheaper than 1-800-COLLECT!

This is jibber-jabber.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I've heard in other threads and from some friends in the US about how the mobile system works a little but I'm confused on a few aspects.

If someone calls YOU, do YOU get charged minutes too?

Do mobile phones have the same prefix country wide?

Is there nationwide flatrate mobile to moblie call rates or is it a local/long distance type arrangement too?

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers

Humphreys posted:

I've heard in other threads and from some friends in the US about how the mobile system works a little but I'm confused on a few aspects.

If someone calls YOU, do YOU get charged minutes too?

Do mobile phones have the same prefix country wide?

Is there nationwide flatrate mobile to moblie call rates or is it a local/long distance type arrangement too?

Any US cell phone can call any other US cell phone with no long distance charges. Within the US, a phone number is 1 (country code) - 512 (3-digit area code, in my case, Austin, TX) - *** - **** (your phone number).

Back in the old days, any number with the same 512 area code was considered local and would not be charged extra. If I wanted to call another city, say San Antonio (210) or San Francisco (415), I would dial 1 - (210 or 415) - *** - ****, and would be charged long distance fees.

Nowadays, dialing such numbers is still exactly the same, except it doesn't cost anything because with cell phones it just doesn't.

Despite US companies charging way too much for cell phone service compared to Europe and other countries, that is one really nice thing. The notion of "long distance" just doesn't exist anymore.

This really bugged me when I was living in Europe. I had a Belgian cell phone number which meant that only calls within Belgium were considered local and not charged extra. If I wanted to call a French or Dutch or German number, it was long distance, despite them being right loving on my goddamn border. I could get from Brussels to Paris quicker than I could Austin to Dallas and yet that's an international call and is stupid expensive.

It's the loving European Union. Why do y'all still have long distance charges?

lazydog
Apr 15, 2003

Humphreys posted:

I've heard in other threads and from some friends in the US about how the mobile system works a little but I'm confused on a few aspects.

If someone calls YOU, do YOU get charged minutes too?

Do mobile phones have the same prefix country wide?

Is there nationwide flatrate mobile to moblie call rates or is it a local/long distance type arrangement too?

Yes, if someone has a plan without unlimited voice, incoming calls do count against their minutes. I think Sprint and possibly other providers in the past had optional plans that included free incoming calls, but that's not the norm. Almost all new plans these days have unlimited voice.

Mobile and landline numbers are indistinguishable. For a little over a decade, we've had number portability, which lets us keep our same phone number when we transfer service regardless of whether the new service is landline, mobile, or voip.

Extra fees for national long distance are sometimes still a thing on landlines, but I don't think any mobile or voip providers charge extra for it.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Thanks for the replies, it did clear some stuff up.

Here in Australia you can have a prepaid phone with no credit on it and have it as a 'receive calls only' type thing - good for contacting your kids drug dealer. Couple that with payphones that allow you to dial any number without inserting coins for those 'call me back' situations.

I'm in my 30s and still have a prepaid account for the flexibility and we get some OK rates. $30 a month gives me more call and data than I use and I can also send credit to other numbers if I have excess at the end of the month (I send all left over credit to my grandma so she doesn't have to spend more of her lovely pension on being contactable).

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


The most insane part of landlines that I remember is that if you dialed the full number for someone who was local, instead of the call being put through you'd hear an automated message saying that your call couldn't be completed because you'd dialed the area code for a local number. It took multiple attempts dialing in different ways because "we know who you were trying to call but gently caress you."

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jesus Christ posted:

Any US cell phone can call any other US cell phone with no long distance charges. Within the US, a phone number is 1 (country code) - 512 (3-digit area code, in my case, Austin, TX) - *** - **** (your phone number).

Back in the old days, any number with the same 512 area code was considered local and would not be charged extra. If I wanted to call another city, say San Antonio (210) or San Francisco (415), I would dial 1 - (210 or 415) - *** - ****, and would be charged long distance fees.

Nowadays, dialing such numbers is still exactly the same, except it doesn't cost anything because with cell phones it just doesn't.

Despite US companies charging way too much for cell phone service compared to Europe and other countries, that is one really nice thing. The notion of "long distance" just doesn't exist anymore.

This really bugged me when I was living in Europe. I had a Belgian cell phone number which meant that only calls within Belgium were considered local and not charged extra. If I wanted to call a French or Dutch or German number, it was long distance, despite them being right loving on my goddamn border. I could get from Brussels to Paris quicker than I could Austin to Dallas and yet that's an international call and is stupid expensive.

It's the loving European Union. Why do y'all still have long distance charges?

Because European Union doesn't mean Union like the United States?
There is recent EU legislation to cut down on roaming charges within the EU, at least.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Humphreys posted:

Couple that with payphones that allow you to dial any number without inserting coins for those 'call me back' situations.

Are you saying that if you don't insert coins, it'll still ring on the other end and you can hang up after 2 rings so they know "oh that's Humphreys's secret code, I'd better ca'll back", or can you talk for a few seconds before you need to insert coins?

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

The most insane part of landlines that I remember is that if you dialed the full number for someone who was local, instead of the call being put through you'd hear an automated message saying that your call couldn't be completed because you'd dialed the area code for a local number. It took multiple attempts dialing in different ways because "we know who you were trying to call but gently caress you."

Seems fair to me. The exchange probably wasn't that smart, and as soon as you dialled 1, your line was connected to the long distance switch, and then if you dialled your own area code, there probably wasn't some way to disconnect your line from the long distance switch but tell the local switch to connect you to your destination, so you're probably lucky they were smart enough to say "no" instead of connecting you and charging you long distance rates, because if you're tying up a port on the long distance switch you should be charged accordingly.

I could be wrong though, I just read Exploding the Phone a while ago and have no other basis for guessing how this stuff works :v:

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Jesus Christ posted:

Back in the old days, any number with the same 512 area code was considered local and would not be charged extra. If I wanted to call another city, say San Antonio (210) or San Francisco (415), I would dial 1 - (210 or 415) - *** - ****, and would be charged long distance fees.

And in more spread-out areas, long-distance fees could still apply even within the area code. I learned this when I spent the summer after my sophomore year at my mom's house, and racked up several hundred dollars in phone bills dialing in to my college's modem pool twenty miles away. "But I didn't have to dial an area code" was a flimsy excuse but understandable given the circumstances, and my summer job pretty much paid off the phone bill.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Buttcoin purse posted:

Are you saying that if you don't insert coins, it'll still ring on the other end and you can hang up after 2 rings so they know "oh that's Humphreys's secret code, I'd better ca'll back", or can you talk for a few seconds before you need to insert coins?

If you were quick you could get 'mum pick me up' out before it disconnected.

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Humphreys posted:

If you were quick you could get 'mum pick me up' out before it disconnected.

"Hello. You have a collect call from--PRACTICEISOVERCOMEPICKMEUP--press 1 to accept the charges"

Lufiron
Nov 24, 2005

feedmegin posted:

Because European Union doesn't mean Union like the United States?
There is recent EU legislation to cut down on roaming charges within the EU, at least.

oh so big companies can trade freely but the average citizen is hosed? seems like the oligarchy is alive and well there as well

Lufiron
Nov 24, 2005

JediTalentAgent posted:

I was needing a pre-paid phone card for long distance calling a while back and was really surprised not only by how hard it was to find one, how few there were and the prices of them seemed odd.

I know one time I was out of town, no cell phone, and really needed to make a call home and I very nearly just bought a cheap Tracfone because it was going to end up costing me nearly the same as finding a prepaid card, finding a still-working phone booth, losing a LOT of minutes just for the service fee of using a pay phone, etc.

edit: I actually was cleaning out an drawer recently and found a promotional phone card from the ET rerelease from about 15 years ago. Yeah, those minutes are expired.

you need to go to where immigrants live to get those cards now. mexican supermercados, inner city bodegas, etc have those cards because calling their families is cheaper than with a cell phone

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Howard Beale posted:

"Hello. You have a collect call from--PRACTICEISOVERCOMEPICKMEUP--press 1 to accept the charges"

You have a call from Bob WEADDABABYEETSABOY

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Tmobile owns if you have lots of family/friends in central or south america and a bunch of other places around the world actually but live in the US. On my plan i can use 3g data and text for free when i travel to most countries. Voice is pretty cheap by the minute but would add up just use WhatsApp or facetime audio instead.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



All this fancy shmancy VoIP and globally accessible packet-switched network bullshit is cool and all but I'll be damned if POTS isn't still in use 50 or more years from now.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Humphreys posted:

I've heard in other threads and from some friends in the US about how the mobile system works a little but I'm confused on a few aspects.

If someone calls YOU, do YOU get charged minutes too?

Do mobile phones have the same prefix country wide?

Is there nationwide flatrate mobile to moblie call rates or is it a local/long distance type arrangement too?

No one has a landline these days unless you're really old or if your cable company makes you get one as part of a bundle.

Pretty much every single mobile phone plan has unlimited talk/text these days so you don't need to worry about minutes. And yeah everything is (+1). They're assigned on a country to country basis regardless of population IIRC. Like China I know is (+86) but they have like 12 digit phone numbers because of how many people there are.

Christo3
May 1, 2013

Promoting the installation and use of Windows 95 with characters from hit 90's TV show Friends(tm)

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SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


I've had unlimited talk, text and data for a long time - I haven't thought about "minutes" in years. At one point it there was just a single pool of minutes for incoming and outgoing calls, then later it only applied to outgoing calls.

My first cell phone was per minute for voice, texts didn't exist, and data didn't mean anything either. For data/text purposes I would just log on to AOL, at a per minute or per hour rate. I don't remember the pricing at the time but I bet my parents do.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

While we're on the subject of cell phones, tell me if I'm crazy, goons... It seems like way too often, if I'm listening to a phone interview on the radio, or just if I'm talking to someone, if at any point one of the people using a cell phone either yells a certain way or makes a long sound, almost like singing a musical note, I've noticed that a number tone is triggered. Has anyone else noticed this?

At first, of course, I just thought that it was them accidentally hitting a number, but time after time, I've noticed it, always under the same circumstances... Person yells loudly or creates a 'tone' with their voice, usually in speech', and then I'll hear "beep". I'd be able to predict it, but it always happens so fast. I'm never surprised anymore when it does though.

I don't have an answer for you, but I've experienced it when I call my mother's landline from Skype and one of us raises their voice.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

computer parts posted:

No one has a landline these days unless you're really old or if your cable company makes you get one as part of a bundle.

Pretty much every single mobile phone plan has unlimited talk/text these days so you don't need to worry about minutes. And yeah everything is (+1). They're assigned on a country to country basis regardless of population IIRC. Like China I know is (+86) but they have like 12 digit phone numbers because of how many people there are.

I think by prefix he means the 3 digits after +1, not the international prefix. Also population doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how long numbers are; British phone numbers are 11 digits (the first of which is always 0, granted), and we're like 1/6th the population of the US. Landline numbers have geographical area codes but mobile phone numbers don't - they all start with 07<something> and aren't tied to any particular location.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

IIRC, cellphone roaming charges in the EU will be capped at some low rate this year and completely abolished next year. I wouldn't be surprised if that schedule is mysteriously delayed, of course.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Data Graham posted:

You have a call from Bob WEADDABABYEETSABOY

Another commercial that makes no sense anymore.

Also why were you people dialing 1? The only time I ever used 1 was when I called 800 numbers because there was a 1 listed in the commercial.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Christo3 posted:

Promoting the installation and use of Windows 95 with characters from hit 90's TV show Friends(tm)



I'd watch that just for kicks

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's on YouTube.

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