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value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

not sure what is up with eastern europe and twerking but im starting to mind less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96w_dwg9CRY

For shame, minding to begin with! ...unless it's the euro ladies with no booty much less butt :smith:

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I challenge anyone to find a better all-purpose cheap vodka than Sobieski or Luksusowa. Both are less than $15 a fifth including tax.

Salut, Poland.

Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Feb 25, 2016

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I challenge anyone to find a better all-purpose cheap vodka than Sobieski or Luksusowa. Both are less than $15 a fifth including tax.

Salut, Poland.

I just discovered Luksusowa. its 10 bucks a fifth over here. Drank it like water.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I challenge anyone to find a better all-purpose cheap vodka than Sobieski or Luksusowa. Both are less than $15 a fifth including tax.

Salut, Poland.

Speaking of Poland;

https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/15105/spirytus-rektyfikowany-rectified-spirit-95-polmos

I found a bottle of this for $15 . My friends and I did 2 shots each cause we're retarded. Everything burned and one of my friends started crying like a bitch.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Can we at least agree that Poles are good NATO loving slavs?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

etalian posted:

Can we at least agree that Poles are good NATO loving slavs?

Poles, Czechs, and Ukrainians = Good Slavs.

Russians and Serbs = Bad Slavs.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Poles, Czechs, and Ukrainians = Good Slavs.

Russians and Serbs = Bad Slavs.

Poles greatest accomplishment was increasing number of attractive women in the UK.

Lufiron
Nov 24, 2005

etalian posted:

Poles greatest accomplishment was increasing number of attractive women in the UK.

and the witcher 3

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

etalian posted:

Poles greatest accomplishment was increasing number of attractive women in the UK.

This is damning with faint praise just FYI.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
also I would like to be trapped in a brewery with the Czech Republic Women's Volleyball team.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I challenge anyone to find a better all-purpose cheap vodka than Sobieski or Luksusowa. Both are less than $15 a fifth including tax.

Salut, Poland.
байкал and зелёная марка both are cheaper and significantly better than sobieski, which really works only if your mother-in-law is visiting you. haven't tried luksusowa, maybe that one is plausible

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Poles, Czechs, and Ukrainians = Good Slavs.

Russians and Serbs = Bad Slavs.
no proper squat form abiding slav should be declared bad under any circumstances, unless they refuse to share sunflower seeds

Robert Deadford
Mar 1, 2008
Ultra Carp

kalstrams posted:

байкал and зелёная марка both are cheaper and significantly better than sobieski, which really works only if your mother-in-law is visiting you. haven't tried luksusowa, maybe that one is plausible

Luksusowa is pretty good as Polish vodka goes, and is potato vodka to boot.


This is awesome!

fuck off Batman
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!


There are no bad slavs, only misunderstood slavs.

World Kraid Center
Oct 18, 2009
americans filing good and bad depending on subservience to their empire, how adorable

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




a hundred boners posted:

americans filing good and bad depending on subservience to their empire, how adorable
sexman is polish i believe

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

kalstrams posted:

sexman is polish i believe

He should namechange to ALL-PRO POLEMAN then to avoid confusion.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Jerry Cotton posted:

He should namechange to ALL-PRO POLEMAN then to avoid confusion.
would anything really change though :v:

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

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a hundred boners posted:

americans filing good and bad depending on subservience to their empire, how adorable

I'm sorry it just happens to work out that way but when your major power rivals are Russia and China, all good countries can see the writing on the wall.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Romes128 posted:

Speaking of Poland;

https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/15105/spirytus-rektyfikowany-rectified-spirit-95-polmos

I found a bottle of this for $15 . My friends and I did 2 shots each cause we're retarded. Everything burned and one of my friends started crying like a bitch.

Congrats on passing the polish citizenship test

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

etalian posted:

Poles greatest accomplishment was increasing number of attractive women in the UK.

Kicking the poo poo out of the Ottomans for a few decades was pretty badass too.

And providing a new and significant NATO military barrier against Russia after Germany bitched out

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

lol

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

kalstrams posted:

sexman is polish i believe

nope, american

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

Is it time again? I think it might be time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVDur6QA2OM

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

nope, american

Close enough.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

nope, american
explains your vodka preference

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

kalstrams posted:

"happy defender of the fatherland day!"


but those are all german tanks and planes :v:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




MrLonghair posted:

but those are all german tanks and planes :v:
i remember you, the first ps4 war thunder goon :cheers:

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

grate deceiver posted:

Congrats on passing the polish citizenship test

Final test is finding potato

Terminal Entropy
Dec 26, 2012


Dees has a Polish cousin, yes?

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Terminal Entropy posted:

Dees has a Polish cousin, yes?

Its clearly a shopped version of the clinton one.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

kalstrams posted:

that's Тимати, L'One, ST, Nel Marselle, Jenee, 5 Плюх, and Миша Крупин making dumb parody of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrGyySwmbM

Yep! Post Russian hip hop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1FShPJlk3s

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon

kalstrams posted:

that's Тимати, L'One, ST, Nel Marselle, Jenee, 5 Плюх, and Миша Крупин making dumb parody of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrGyySwmbM

meykhana rocks.

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
http://i.imgur.com/lHCW7N3.gifv

World Kraid Center
Oct 18, 2009

Man Whore posted:

I'm sorry it just happens to work out that way but when your major power rivals are Russia and China, all good countries can see the writing on the wall.

So being 'good' means you are like Georgia even though you end up blamed by all your friends for a war or like the Germans with all their hard work driving the EU to death? Turkey, Qatar, UAE, Saudi, are those guys actually on Team Good Side Chill Bros or do they give Team Evil a run for their authoritarian money? poland is just recording mixtapes and workout videos in the CIA black sites on its territory? do you actually seriously thinks that anyone with power gives a gently caress about the average ukrainian? WHO the gently caress is NATO even supporting in syria? how is that a question that simple so hard to answer?

Japan, Greece, Iran, Iraq, India, South Africa, Brazil, Serbia, none of these count as good countries? Why?

Poorly justified team good invasions of core team bad early in their relationships:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Bear_Expedition
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Russia_Intervention
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion
The reverse:
- ...
- https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/22/one-wave-of-migration-from-siberia-populated-the-americas-dna-shows

you know why germany rose up after the treaty of versailles but you can't fathom to flirt with the possibility that calling people bad is a little... bad of you? what is this thread, the china thread, the sochi thread, but 75%+ blatant racism, memes and bullshit lies? that's the peak of western intellectualism?

World Kraid Center fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Feb 28, 2016

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Jan 6, 2012

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Lil Bit O Vitriol
Jan 10, 2010

a hundred boners posted:

So being 'good' means you are like Georgia even though you end up blamed by all your friends for a war or like the Germans with all their hard work driving the EU to death? Turkey, Qatar, UAE, Saudi, are those guys actually on Team Good Side Chill Bros or do they give Team Evil a run for their authoritarian money? poland is just recording mixtapes and workout videos in the CIA black sites on its territory? do you actually seriously thinks that anyone with power gives a gently caress about the average ukrainian? WHO the gently caress is NATO even supporting in syria? how is that a question that simple so hard to answer?

Japan, Greece, Iran, Iraq, India, South Africa, Brazil, Serbia, none of these count as good countries? Why?

Poorly justified team good invasions of core team bad early in their relationships:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Bear_Expedition
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Russia_Intervention
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion
The reverse:
- ...
- https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/22/one-wave-of-migration-from-siberia-populated-the-americas-dna-shows

you know why germany rose up after the treaty of versailles but you can't fathom to flirt with the possibility that calling people bad is a little... bad of you? what is this thread, the china thread, the sochi thread, but 75%+ blatant racism, memes and bullshit lies? that's the peak of western intellectualism?

lol u mad

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

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Russia and China are bad because they are totalitarian imperialists right now. thats all you should have gotten from that post before posting examples of western imperialism from a hundred years ago. I got no illusions as to the USA being angels but compared to its great power rivals, what is a neutral country with concerns about sovereignty going to pick? The country threatening to go to war with every nation bordering the south china sea, the nation waging a proxy war with its neighbor while also occupying their land, or the country that stuck its dick in the middle east and is paying the price but otherwise has pretty much the entirety of europe and asia going "ehh the're cool guys I guess ".

Man Whore fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Feb 28, 2016

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Mar 15, 2013




a hundred boners posted:

So being 'good' means you are like Georgia even though you end up blamed by all your friends for a war or like the Germans with all their hard work driving the EU to death? Turkey, Qatar, UAE, Saudi, are those guys actually on Team Good Side Chill Bros or do they give Team Evil a run for their authoritarian money? poland is just recording mixtapes and workout videos in the CIA black sites on its territory? do you actually seriously thinks that anyone with power gives a gently caress about the average ukrainian? WHO the gently caress is NATO even supporting in syria? how is that a question that simple so hard to answer?

Japan, Greece, Iran, Iraq, India, South Africa, Brazil, Serbia, none of these count as good countries? Why?

Poorly justified team good invasions of core team bad early in their relationships:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Bear_Expedition
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Russia_Intervention
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion
The reverse:
- ...
- https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/22/one-wave-of-migration-from-siberia-populated-the-americas-dna-shows

you know why germany rose up after the treaty of versailles but you can't fathom to flirt with the possibility that calling people bad is a little... bad of you? what is this thread, the china thread, the sochi thread, but 75%+ blatant racism, memes and bullshit lies? that's the peak of western intellectualism?
The past week saw no decrease in the tense confrontation between Turkey and Russia over Syria. While Russias position is simple we are ready to fight the Turkish position is much more ambiguous: Turkish politicians are saying one thing, then the opposite and then something else again. At times they make it sound like an invasion is imminent, and at times they say that Turkey plans no unilateral invasion. Since a UN authorized invasion of Syria will never happen, this means some kind of coalition of the willing, possibly NATO. The problem here is that the Europeans have no desire to end up in a war against Russia. At the same time, the US and France refuse to allow a UN Resolution which would reaffirm the sovereignty of Syria. Yup, thats right. The US and France apparently think that the UN Charter (which affirms the sovereignty of all countries) does not apply to Syria. Go figure
There are persistent rumors that top Turkish military commanders, categorically oppose any attack on Syria and that they want no part in a war with Russia. I dont blame them one bit as they understand perfectly well two simple things: first, Turkey does not need a war, only Erdogan does; second, when Turkey is defeated, Erdogan will blame the military. There are also signs of disagreements inside the USA over the prospects of such a war, with the Neocons backing Erdogan and pushing him towards war just as they had done with Saakashvili while the White House and Foggy Bottom are telling Erdogan to cool it. As for the Turks themselves, they have shelled Kurdish and Syrian positions across the border and, on at least two occasions, a small military force has been seen crossing the border.
From a purely military point of view, it makes absolutely no sense for the Turks to mass at the border, declare that they are about to invade, then stop, do some shelling and then only send a few little units across the border. What the Turks should have done was to covertly begin to increase the level of readiness of their forces then and then attacked as soon as Russians detected their preparations even if that meant that they would have to initiate combat operations before being fully mobilized and ready. The advantages of a surprise attack are so big that almost every other consideration has to be put aside in order to achieve it. The Turks did the exact opposite: they advertised their intentions to invade and once their forces were ready, they simply stopped at the border and began issuing completely contradictory declarations. This makes absolutely no sense at all.
What complicates this already chaotic situation is that Erdogan is clearly a lunatic and that there appears to the at least the possibility of some serious infighting between the Turkish political leaders and the military.
Furthermore, there appears to be some very bad blood between the USA and the Erdogan regime. Things got so bad that Erdogans chief adviser, Seref Malkoc, said that Turkey might deny the US the use of the Incirlik Air Base for strikes against ISIL if the US does not name the YPG as a terrorist group. Erdogan later repudiated this statement, but the fact remains that the Turks are now directly blackmailing the USA. If Erdogan and his advisors seriously believe that they can publicly blackmail a superpower like the USA then their days are numbered. At the very least, this kind of irresponsible outbursts shows that the Turks are really crumbling under the pressure they themselves have created.
Still, the fact that Turkey has not invaded yet is a tiny minute sign that maybe, just maybe, the Turks will give up on this crazy notion or that they will limit themselves to a mini-invasion just a few miles across the border. The military would probably prefer such a minimal face saving option, but what about Erdogan and the crazies around him?
Maybe the Turkish military ought to realize that the country is ruled by the madman and do something about it?
Still, the Russians are taking no chances and they have put all their forces into high alert. They have very publicly dispatched a Tu-214r her most advanced ISR (Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance) aircraft. You can think of the Tu-214R as an AWACS for the ground, the kind of aircraft you use to monitor a major ground battle (the regular Russian A-50Ms are already monitoring the Syrian airspace). In southern Russia, the Aerospace forces have organized large-scale exercises involving a large number of aircraft which would be used in a war against Turkey: SU-34s. The Airborne Forces are ready. The naval task forces off the Syrian coast is being augmented. The delivery of weapons has accelerated. The bottom line is simple and obvious: the Russians are not making any threats they are preparing for war. In fact, by now they are ready.
This leaves an important question to be asked: what would the Russians do if their still relatively small force in Syria is attacked and over-run by the Turks? Would the Russian use nuclear weapons?
At least one reporter, Robert Parry, as written the following: A source close to Russian President Vladimir Putin told me that the Russians have warned Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Moscow is prepared to use tactical nuclear weapons if necessary to save their troops in the face of a Turkish-Saudi onslaught. Is that really possible? Would the Russians really use nuclear weapons of things get ugly in Syria?
The Russian Military Doctrine is very clear on the use of nuclear weapons by Russia. This is the relevant paragraph:
27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use against her and (or) her allies of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons in a way which would threaten her very existence as a state. The decision to use nuclear weapons is taken by the President of the Russian Federation.
There is no ambiguity here. Unless Russia is threatened as a state she will not use nuclear weapons. Some will, no doubt, say that the official military doctrine is one thing, but the reality in Syria is another one and if the Turks overrun Khmeimim Russia will have no other option than to use nukes. There is a precedent for that kind of logic: when the US deployed the 82nd Airborne in Saudi Arabia as part of Desert Shield the Pentagon fully understood that if the much larger Iraqi army invaded Saudi Arabia the 82ndwould be destroyed. It was hoped that the USAF and USN could provide enough air sorties to stop the Iraqi advance, but if not it was understood that tactical nuclear weapons would be used. The situation in Syria is different.
For one thing, the Russian task force in Syria is not an infantry tripwire force like the 82nd in Iraq. The terrain and the opposing forces are also very different. Second, the Russian contingent in Syria can count on the firepower and support of the Russian Navy in the Caspian and Mediterranean and the Russian Aerospace Forces from Russia proper. Last but not least, the Russians can count in the support of the Syrian military, Iranian forces, Hezbollah and, probably, the Syrian Kurds who are now openly joining the 4+1 alliance (Russia, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah) turning it into a 4+2 alliance I suppose.
There is one important feature of this 4+2 alliance which ought to really give the Turks a strong incentive to be very careful before taking any action: every member of this 4+2 alliance has an extensive military experience, a much better one than the Turkish military. The modern Turkish military is much more similar to the Israeli military in 2006 it has a great deal of experience terrorizing civilians and it is not a force trained to fight real wars. There is a very real risk for the Turks that if they really invade Syria they might end up facing the same nightmare as the Israelis did when they invaded Lebanon in 2006.
In the meantime, the Russian backed Syrian forces are still advancing. Since the beginning of their counter-offensive the Syrians have succeeded in recapturing all of the strategic locations in western Syria in slow and incremental steps and they are now threatening Raqqa. See for yourself:

The bottom line is this: the size and capabilities of the Russian task force in Syria has been expanding and the level of collaborations between the elements of the 4+2 alliance has been increasing. Add to this the capability to deploy a regimental-size (and fully mechanized) Airborne force in Latakia if needed, and you will begin to see that the Turks would be taking a major risk if they attacked Russian forces even if Russia does not threaten the use of tactical nukes. In fact, I dont see any scenario short of a massive US/NATO attack under which Russia would use her tactical nuclear weapons.
Frankly, this situation is far from resolved. It is no coincidence that just when a ceasefire was supposed to come into effect two terrorist attacks in Turkey are oh-so-conveniently blamed on the Kurds. It sure looks like somebody is trying hard to set Turkey on a collision course with Russia, doesnt it?
Making predictions about what the Turks and their Saudi friends will do makes no sense. We are clearly dealing with two regimes which are gradually losing it: they are lashing out at everybody (including their US patrons), they are terrified of their own minorities (Kurds and Shia) and their propensity for violence and terror is only matched by their inability in conventional warfare. Does that remind you of somebody else?
Of course! The Ukronazis fit this picture perfectly. Well, guess what, they are dreaming of forming an anti-Russian alliance with the Turks now. Amazing no? Just imagine what a Ukrainian-Turkish-Saudi alliance would look like: a real life Islamo-Fascist gang of thugs combining hateful fanaticism, corruption, violence, strident nationalism and military incompetence. A toxic combination for sure, but not a viable one.

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