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AtomicRust posted:Messaged Swans on Facebook last night asking about possible vinyl issues of the later 90s albums (Soundtracks onward), because I wasn't sure if that had ever been addressed. Gira responded, and confirmed that, gradually, all the Swans releases will be seeing vinyl issues! It would be super cool to see Soundtracks packaged with Body Lovers/Body Haters.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 12:15 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 03:26 |
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I don't fancy paying $500 for The Great Annihilator so I'll gladly bide my time.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 22:15 |
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Spam posted:I don't fancy paying $500 for The Great Annihilator so I'll gladly bide my time. Yeah, I much prefer waiting for remastered vinyl issues than paying a godforsaken amount for an old copy. Preordered the White Light/Love of Life vinyl boxset last week, for all that's included $67 was a complete steal. Super excited for it to get here in December.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 17:33 |
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Coincidentally, Gira is the best facebooker. He posts like a cool old dad with a tenuous grasp of the internet and one time he thought the photoshopped picture of Bill Clinton listening to Swans records was real and posted about how honored he was.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:04 |
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yes, following Gira on facebook is great. Some other band I'm a fan of only posts their own songs, Gira posts music that he loves which is way way more interesting of course. Edit: Actually I follow Swans, not Gira.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:58 |
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program666 posted:yes, following Gira on facebook is great. Some other band I'm a fan of only posts their own songs, Gira posts music that he loves which is way way more interesting of course. Gira runs the Swans facebook or did the last time I used facebook
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:08 |
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program666 posted:yes, following Gira on facebook is great. Some other band I'm a fan of only posts their own songs, Gira posts music that he loves which is way way more interesting of course. A CRUNK BIRD posted:Gira runs the Swans facebook or did the last time I used facebook Yeah, Gira personally runs the Swans Facebook page along with his personal Facebook. He signed the end of the message he sent me, so he also responds to all the messages! I follow both him and Swans, and most of the time he just reposts posts he makes on his FB to the Swans page.
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# ? Oct 27, 2015 00:06 |
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Oh sorry, I knew it was Gira, I just felt like clarifying because I didn't know he posted the same things on his personal account (or at least seems like mostly the same)
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# ? Oct 27, 2015 00:37 |
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You can preorder the white light/ love of life LPs from the young god website now
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 00:43 |
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My White Light from the Mouth of Infinity/Love of Life boxset came in the mail yesterday, the packaging is fantastic! Really enjoy that it comes with two posters, along with "Blind" being inserted into White Light. "Blind" seems rather out of place on White Light, especially where it's placed in the track listing, but glad to have it nonetheless. The bonus CD, is sadly, just a compiling (and assumed remastering) of various tracks from the World of Skin, the Various Failures compilation, the live albums Anonymous Bodies In An Empty Room & Omniscience, and the Love of Life single. I wish they were something entirely unreleased or session tapes from those albums, surely some unreleased Swans tracks still exist that have yet to see the light of day.
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# ? Dec 18, 2015 00:15 |
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AtomicRust posted:My White Light from the Mouth of Infinity/Love of Life boxset came in the mail yesterday, the packaging is fantastic! Really enjoy that it comes with two posters, along with "Blind" being inserted into White Light. "Blind" seems rather out of place on White Light, especially where it's placed in the track listing, but glad to have it nonetheless. I was hoping they'd be track upon track of Michael Gira thanking the listener and demanding that he/she not share this music with anyone. Omniscience is a great live album in it's entirity. I've given Gira probably 300 bucks over my lifetimeby. That's enough money to feel I deserve to be an economic free rider when it comes to albums I've already bought in one form or another. God Of Paradise fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Dec 22, 2015 |
# ? Dec 22, 2015 11:39 |
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Aw yeah, can't wait to hear the album version of whatever Black Hole Man became.
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 22:14 |
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http://pitchfork.com/news/63714-michael-gira-discusses-swans-final-album/Pitchfork posted:"It sounds like the musical equivalent of Ben-Hur ... coupled with Kurosawa's Ran," Gira told Mojo. He added, "It is epic. One piece has 240 separate tracks. But there are also a lot of delicate moments. There’s a lot of orchestration — strings, horns, female singers. But no bagpipes this time. The longest pieces is 28 minutes, and there are a couple that are 22, 23."
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:08 |
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I cannot wait
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:39 |
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So it's going to be like The Seer and TBK but with orchestration? I came.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 19:55 |
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Well poo poo, might have to invest in an acceptable audio setup just for this.
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# ? Feb 24, 2016 03:01 |
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Just gonna go ahead and assume this will be album of the year for me. Probably oughta preemptively crown them Artists of the Decade or Band of the Decade or whatever the gently caress
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 00:27 |
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Oh gently caress. gently caress gently caress gently caress. https://www.facebook.com/larkin.grimm.1/posts/1284036894947002 quote:I will give you some history about why I am sharing the story about Thomas Sayers Ellis's abusive behavior now. I didn't always stand up for myself. Rape is a loaded word. No man wants to be a rapist. It implies cowardice as well as violence. It undermines the sexual power and magnetism that every man would like to have. No woman wants to be known as a rape victim, either. I want to be known for my strength, intelligence, and talent. Not known as a victim. My story with Michael Gira is an absolute tragedy that I have kept secret for too long. I am only speaking of it now because after being accused of "lynching" Thomas, I cannot ethically keep Michael's secret any longer. He's a white guy, and his crime was far worse than what Thomas did to me or Margaret.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 01:14 |
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God loving dammit no
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 01:22 |
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Oh Jesus loving Christ. Is EVERYONE seemingly cool and talented actually a monster?
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 01:42 |
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This really bums me out
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 02:06 |
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Yea bummer. Seemed like such a sweet, wholesome guy.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 02:12 |
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innocent until proven guilty
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 03:00 |
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Whorelord posted:innocent until proven guilty Believe victims. False rape accusations are super super rare. This loving sucks.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 03:33 |
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Ugh this is gross. gently caress. Might have to change my producer cred on the new album. Some dude posted this on /mu/ so take it with whatever sized grain of salt that means to you:
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 03:57 |
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Ugh this is gross. gently caress. Might have to change my producer cred on the new album. Looks legit, this was just posted on the Swans facebook: quote:re the horrible and untrue accusations from larkin grimm: Regardless, this thing is loving rife in the industry. If it's true, it sucks but will ultimately help victims of this poo poo in the industry step forward. If it's not true, it sucks and will hurt everyone involved and future victims. Whorelord posted:innocent until proven guilty Assuming this is a false claim, he should really just release the screenshots of the emails/texts or whatever that say she's going to do this to spite him. Otherwise, it's important to at the very least, not immediately throw this out because time and time again there are stories exactly like this where the impetus of not immediately coming out with rape claims is that "it's detrimental to the career". As I said before, this is a huge issue in this industry and support should be shown to victims, the first step of which is, y'know, actual support rather than "nah not true". THAT'S THE poo poo THAT KEEPS THIS IN THE DARK. I, Butthole fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Feb 26, 2016 |
# ? Feb 26, 2016 06:12 |
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Gira just posted on Facebook that the allegations are untrue and that he will post an official statement soon: https://www.facebook.com/SwansOfficial/posts/10154568990646978 Sounds like that email screenshot is legit (e: nvm, guess it's not) e:fb HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Feb 26, 2016 |
# ? Feb 26, 2016 06:12 |
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Whorelord posted:innocent until proven guilty
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 06:16 |
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The email is a fake. Someone asked in the comments.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 06:27 |
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Astrochicken posted:Yea bummer. Seemed like such a sweet, wholesome guy. lol! I met him before a solo show once. He crushed my beta hand with his bonecrushing grip. Ugh. Ferdinand Bardamu fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Feb 26, 2016 |
# ? Feb 26, 2016 06:57 |
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These allegations are genuinely heartbreaking, if true. Swans seriously changed my life and it feels like a betrayal to hear this. The real response (not that fake email thing) on Swans' page feels very weak and does little to actually address the situation other than a vague "this is lies!".
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 07:19 |
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Saw Larkin Grimm open for Gira at the Swedish American Music Hall in 2009 and her performance was way better
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 07:26 |
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Michael Gira's wife just posted a statement: https://www.facebook.com/coveredwithstars/posts/10206691239732330?fref=nfJennifer Gira posted:I was enjoying not being on FB precisely for the social media nightmare(s) I must rejoin to address now, due to a former musical "protege" on my husband Michael Gira's record label has accused him of being a rapist......in 2008. As you may know, Michael dropped Larkin, and she has been jilted about it ever since. Larkin may know in the past, Michael has shuddered and simply deleted her harassing emails/texts, rambling obsessive tomes, declarations of unrequited love, hate speech, and threats to him. but, guess what sweetheart!- his wife is well aware----and his wife, is rather analytical, organized, -and doesn't put up with any bullshit. I have PROOF, in Larkin's own hand, that her allegations of Michael raping her *did not happen.* I REPEAT It is false. (Larkin-you should have been much more careful whom you emailed/messaged/purged/"reached out" to in "heartfelt" way, etc etc, or in letting yourself use a computer, during what seems to have been from the illiad of messages sent to my husband that are c-r-a-z-y -suffering from a manic/bipolar or chemical relapse episode)That is unfortunate-for you. I have nothing but empathy for a person who has experienced assault. After all, *I* survived an extremely violent rape/kidnap attempt, which resulted in, (through my fighting hand to hand combat) in great injury to myself-but it saved my life. My entire life was affected. I was diagnosed with severe PTSD, panic disorder, and often have difficulty walking to my car in the Target parking lot after dark, sometimes bursting into tears. Do I like sharing such info on the internet? NO, but I feel at this juncture, I have no choice. I didn't have any "artist love affair" (puh-leeze) -it was a complete stranger. Nevertheless, it causes me such pain-daily, there is a song on a new Swans album, Michael wrote for me- (that I sing myself) I have not even listened to the song more than once since its recording, It upsets me so much to even hear myself sing it. This was, a loving attempt from Michael Gira to help me heal from such a horrible event. I take great insult in you accusing my husband of something like I went through. (And I have the police report, injury records, doctors, therapies, witnesses, etc) This isn't meant to be tit for tat, but, I hate liars. I hope people do share this post. -and I hope Larkin sees it, and I hope she is wrecked with nerves, because I repeat, I have *PROOF in her own hand* that what she wrote today is false about my husband. I am currently being muzzled (by atttorneys, managers, labels, and the like) but rest assured, the truth will come out. Larkin, you will publicly apologize, and face serious consequences. Please share. P.S anyone who bashed my husband or his music, when they see the proof- is going to feel like a complete fool.I hope you feel shame, and think about your actions. I am not negating a negative experience by a woman or man in a sexual context, or god forbid an assault on anyone, but it is SCARY AS HELL, that some mentally unbalanced (and admittedly so, *you'll see that too, once I release what I have*) can just post on Facebook, and the entire internet music press runs the story as "fact" -Any musician or artist in the public eye (or not, really this concerns everyone) should be wary, VERY WARY p.s. "the boy who cried wolf" is a great allegory for the starfucker-in the end- nobody listened to either of them howl. HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Feb 26, 2016 |
# ? Feb 26, 2016 08:59 |
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I hope it's not true but at this point the ball is definitely in his court. I have more of a tendency to support a victim that has little in the way of proof than someone that just says "didn't do it!" but both sides can be pretty difficult to prove so long after the fact. Gira doesn't have the best track record of the being the greatest guy on earth (such as all the arguments with Jarboe, etc). Just started a Swans binge and then read this a few hours later -_-
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 12:31 |
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Christ. That Jennifer Gira statement really doesn't help.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 12:59 |
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anyone taking a side is pointless because there's no evidence either way
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 13:48 |
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https://larkingrimm.bandcamp.com/album/parplar
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 14:48 |
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http://music-illuminati.com/interview-larkin-grimm/ from 2012quote:JM: Your 2008 album Parplar was co-produced by Michael Gira and released on his label. What was it like working with him?
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 15:30 |
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Michael Girapist
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 16:49 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 03:26 |
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I really hate to see stuff like this for a multitude of reasons that I don't feel like typing here, but one of the many things that I find confusing is the fake email. I guess we don't have context for it, but what the gently caress? Does someone have michaelgira@gmail.com, and did some random person email that account and ask about the rape allegations? Maybe there's a very obvious explanation that I fail to come up with on my own. Just very odd.
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