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moosecow333 posted:I thought people had to undergo power armor training before they could wear power armor. Did they just remove that concept from the game? Yup. You can even find Raiders with their own janky welded-on scrap metal over power armor frames sometimes.
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moosecow333 posted:I thought people had to undergo power armor training before they could wear power armor. Did they just remove that concept from the game? If you can teach a soldier how to wear and operate it, then you can teach anyone to wear and operate it.
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Feb 25, 2016 17:22
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moosecow333 posted:I thought people had to undergo power armor training before they could wear power armor. Did they just remove that concept from the game? The lore is weird. On one hand, if you play as the father, you have explicit military training and would have conceivably had Power Armor training. On the other hand, they go out of their way to tell you that the exosuit that the armor gets placed onto doesn't require training because it's powered by hydraulics or whatever that won't kill the poo poo out of you if you flex too hard. That's why any civilian and bandit can put on a full suit of death-metal and stomp you into a red paste. Also, anything that looks like an older suit of armor is actually a variant for the exosuit you can snag. I think. I know that's the case for the X-01 stuff.
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Feb 25, 2016 17:31
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I don’t think Fallout 2 had power armour training either. It was sort of in 1 but I think it was more like a “look, here’s what this armor actually is, and we’re going to let u use it” induction given how big a deal the Brotherhood made out if it and that’s just them being assholes probably
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Feb 25, 2016 17:33
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Picked up gone home after reading some of the little things in this thread - and echoing that the little things with the father and mother are great. Really gets this idea of a family slowly falling apart while you've been away across. My little thing is definitely the mother sub-plot where: She's been slowly falling into an affair with a coworker. The EWF poster, note and obviously hidden ticket stub, along with the Walt Whitman - all about sensuality underlying conformity
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Feb 25, 2016 19:27
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Yeah Power Armor training was only really a thing in 3 and NV, and NV probably had it because 3 had it and they just didn't bother taking it out. In F2, you can rush Advanced Power Armor at like level 2 if you know what you're doing.
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Feb 25, 2016 19:41
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Lotish posted:Yeah Power Armor training was only really a thing in 3 and NV, and NV probably had it because 3 had it and they just didn't bother taking it out. In F2, you can rush Advanced Power Armor at like level 2 if you know what you're doing.
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Feb 25, 2016 19:45
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If you know what you're doing you can beat fallout 3 before you're even three years old.
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Feb 25, 2016 19:56
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Power Armour training was probably introduced in Fallout 3 due to the prominence of the Brotherhood and not wanting to let you use endgame armour at the start of the game.
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Feb 25, 2016 20:25
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Digirat posted:If you know what you're doing you can beat fallout 3 before you're even three years old. Dude that game is rated M for drug use, violence, and cuss words. A three-year-old has no business playing it
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Feb 25, 2016 20:26
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princecoo posted:A few days later I returned and found the fucker had somehow climbed onto the roof of the building and abandoned it there. Trashcan Carlas brahmin had gotten up there too. I can't wait until the GECK comes out so people can go in and untangle that specific building's pathfinding because getting NPCs to do anything there is nearly impossible. The navmesh must look like a gordian knot facefucking a plate of spaghetti. People and brahmin constantly end up on the roof and ordering your companions to move anywhere near the garage results in constant "I can't do that". I once told one of my companions to hop into a suit of power armor that was in the garage there, turned around for a second, turned back and she was on the roof telling me she couldn't reach the armor, which had been three feet from her.
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Disproportionation posted:I got a F4 power armour story if we're all sharing. I wonder if you can put power armor with cores in them around the area and have those starting Minutemen get into it and just fight the Mirelurk queen with a tiny power armored army I'm gonna try that for science
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Feb 25, 2016 20:36
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Dude that game is rated M for drug use, violence, and cuss words. A three-year-old has no business playing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc_Ws3ZwyhQ You can beat the game as a baby. In-game baby.
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Feb 25, 2016 21:34
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I don’t think Fallout 2 had power armour training either. It was sort of in 1 but I think it was more like a “look, here’s what this armor actually is, and we’re going to let u use it” induction given how big a deal the Brotherhood made out if it and that’s just them being assholes probably Fallout 1 only let you get power armor from the Brotherhood. Fallout 2 let you get it elsewhere; I forget all the details but there were even a few places you could buy it. You could also rush Enclave armor early on if you really wanted to. Power armor training was kind of meaningless because it was hard to find. The big difference that happened was Fallout 3 adding item durability and making you scrounge up more armor to keep your armor functioning, which mandated armor drops. In 1 and 2 you couldn't just gun down a dude in power armor and steal his duds. Fallout 3 let you do that but then went "lol nope you don't know this poo poo works gently caress you. Power armor also wasn't even the best armor in 1 and 2. Fallout 3 and NV forgot that little detail. Of course Fallout 1 and 2 also had more "little details" in general. I think my favorite was when you go to be a boxer. If you're a woman with the Sex Appeal trait the guy running it is reluctant to let you in boxing "ain't ugly but that's what it does to people." He says it'd be "a drat shame" if an attractive woman got beat up. You can convince him anyway of course but it leads to the better little detail. The last boxer you fight is called "The Masticator" and bites your ear off. You get the ear and the description includes "if you're reading this you're probably reloading soon."
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Feb 25, 2016 22:19
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quote:Power armor also wasn't even the best armor in 1 and 2. Fallout 3 and NV forgot that little detail. What armors were better than the Hardened Power Armor and the Advanced Power Armor, respectively?
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Feb 25, 2016 22:24
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RBA Starblade posted:What armors were better than the Hardened Power Armor and the Advanced Power Armor, respectively? I even looked it up to see if I forgot something but unless you're counting the Advanced Power Armor Mk. II those are the best.
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Feb 25, 2016 22:28
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In NV I usually just used the NCR Ranger armor. The power armor was nice but the STR bonus didn't overcome the weight and heavy armor made you way slower.
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Feb 25, 2016 23:18
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RBA Starblade posted:What armors were better than the Hardened Power Armor and the Advanced Power Armor, respectively? Tesla armor while taking Psycho makes you effectively invincible.
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Feb 26, 2016 00:16
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pulp rag posted:The lore is weird. everyone also misses the fact that the female player character was a solider too, it comes up in a few different conversation options.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:07
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Feb 26, 2016 03:10
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Army lawyer. Firing suits out if her justice cannon.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:19
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The Iron Rose posted:everyone also misses the fact that the female player character was a solider too, it comes up in a few different conversation options. She wasn't a soldier, she was a very recent law school graduate, taking some time off between school and practicing because of Shaun's birth.
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Feb 26, 2016 04:48
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Inco posted:She wasn't a soldier, she was a very recent law school graduate, taking some time off between school and practicing because of Shaun's birth. She was a No Limit Soldier. Big Master P fan. Gold tank DLC incoming.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:47
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The crew of the U.S.S. Constitution specifically check the city records and aay she's a lawyer. I trust the NPCs from the only real Fallout quest in Fallout 4 over basically any other source on the matter.
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The developers recognized that the roughly five-foot range of the silenced pistol was obnoxious in the previous game, so they increased it at least three-fold in Sniper Elite III. In SE2 the pistol was essentially useless because if you were in range to shoot a soldier, you could knife him silently and be ready to drag his corpse away to boot. In SE3, it's quite possible to do missions entirely with the silenced pistol. The greatly increased range effectively offsets the downside that is the reduced amount of background sounds that mask your rifle when you fire it. You're no longer confined to killing enemies that are either <2 meters or >100 meters away.
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Inco posted:She wasn't a soldier, she was a very recent law school graduate, taking some time off between school and practicing because of Shaun's birth. Making her a lawyer came off as dumb when they could've just handwaved the whole thing as "they met on deployment, got married when they left the army", and there you have how both of them can be expert marksman. Cleretic posted:The crew of the U.S.S. Constitution specifically check the city records and aay she's a lawyer. I trust the NPCs from the only real Fallout quest in Fallout 4 over basically any other source on the matter. I'd follow Captain Ironsides into hell, I would!  Seriously, go check out the wrecked sailing ship atop a city building when you see it.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Making her a lawyer came off as dumb when they could've just handwaved the whole thing as "they met on deployment, got married when they left the army", and there you have how both of them can be expert marksman.
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Making her (or Dudeguy) anything was really silly because it takes away a lot of agency from the player in regards to really getting down and making a character. But this is the positive things about games thread so I'mma add that, after playing the inventory management game for dozens of hours into Dragons Dogma Online, doing my best to hold onto items that I can equip later while also juggling the crafting materials I can or cannot or maybe later can use, I just got another bank tab for doing a main story quest and I've never been so hyped for storage space in my entire life.
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Feb 26, 2016 08:05
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Nuebot posted:The lawyer thing is even sillier because you can make her a 0-int lawyer. So, Andy Schlafly or John Thompson? 
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Babe Magnet posted:Making her (or Dudeguy) anything was really silly because it takes away a lot of agency from the player in regards to really getting down and making a character. Did DDO get an english release or are you playing the Japanese version? Because if it has an English version I somehow missed that and need to know now.
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Feb 26, 2016 08:35
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Tiberius Thyben posted:So, Andy Schlafly or John Thompson?
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moosecow333 posted:I thought people had to undergo power armor training before they could wear power armor. Did they just remove that concept from the game? That perk was always handed out like candy so I honestly don't blame them for glossing over it.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Seriously, go check out the wrecked sailing ship atop a city building when you see it. I don't understand anyone who wouldn't do this. Also, make sure to revisit after finishing the quest.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:20
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RagnarokAngel posted:That perk was always handed out like candy so I honestly don't blame them for glossing over it. In 3 it was, especially with Anchorage, but in New Vegas you can only get it in 2 places: from Arcade or one of his buddies at the end of his personal quest - which requires you to travel all around the map to even activate it and then again to gather everyone (and some of the people you're gathering won't come with you until you do THEIR quest) - or from the BoS at the end of their questline. Both of those are pretty time-consuming and don't qualify as "candy" IMO.
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Inco posted:She wasn't a soldier, she was a very recent law school graduate, taking some time off between school and practicing because of Shaun's birth.  I had the option to say that "I" was a soldier when I was out adventuring with paladin danse.
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The Iron Rose posted:
Maybe being a soldier is sexually transmitted.
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Feb 26, 2016 16:55
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Solice Kirsk posted:Maybe being a soldier is sexually transmitted. It's well established that love is a battlefield.
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haveblue posted:It's well established that love is a battlefield. Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh oh-oh-oh
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razorrozar posted:In 3 it was, especially with Anchorage, but in New Vegas you can only get it in 2 places: from Arcade or one of his buddies at the end of his personal quest - which requires you to travel all around the map to even activate it and then again to gather everyone (and some of the people you're gathering won't come with you until you do THEIR quest) - or from the BoS at the end of their questline. New Vegas is a pretty drat good game.
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Someone linked Hotline Miami 2's ending again and I love how after the credits theres a fake stinger for a post-apocalyptic Hotline Miami 3.
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