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Mango Polo posted:Going to be joining the psychic master race? Nah, if I do 30k it'll probably be Blood Angels. I really liked Fear to Tread for some reason. I want to convert the Mantic mummy models to be more egyptian, and I figure there were more 1k sons conversion parts over fantasy conversions.
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panascope posted:Let's have a Typhon v. Warhound Grudge Match. Scoria vs Horus. Just wargear, one unit only, Final Destination. e: muggins posted:FCG is our club here in Michigan. We play a ton of different games and blog and shoot video battle reports for them. Mostly professional 30s age dudes some with kids. We started HH at AdeptiCon because a lot of us are dissatisfied with 40k right now and hate money Your club looks great. We have a fairly healthy group here in Washington/Oregon, but we scew toward married late 20s assholes with pets and an occasional child. We hate money, ourselves, and aren't happy with 40k. I'm scared to start recording our games because of the amount of trash talking. Your lightning will do justice against some of those armored lists. Or you can ally in admech and take a squadron of Krios tanks. You play EC, right? That's a good army to run the hidden blade ROW. Just show up turn 2 with a bunch of reserves and pop tanks. BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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Yeah honestly I don't get admech. Brainless dudes who are paid to clean armor and put bolts on stuff just doesn't really do it for me. The models have no visual appeal either, so I'll likely go with the primaris and then try to do some support squads or something
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Ok so I have a plan for a starter 30k army using nothing but Betrayal at Calth tactical squad kits from eBay. By my account I can use six kits to make this: [Tactical Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 19x Legion Space Marine [Tactical Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 19x Legion Space Marine [Tactical Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ plasma gun [Tactical Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ melta gun or flamer [Heavy Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ missile launcher [Heavy Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ heavy bolter Is any of that going to be entirely useless? I know the second support squad are bit meh with flamers or meltas but those are the weapons that come in the box.
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The relics FW are talking about in the errata, is it only the standard ones available to all, or does it also include the legion specific ones like the photonic blade? Also, forgive for I have sinned. I am contemplating a BA army.
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TTerrible posted:Ok so I have a plan for a starter 30k army using nothing but Betrayal at Calth tactical squad kits from eBay. By my account I can use six kits to make this: I'll leave actual commentary to the 30k gurus, but I'd aim for two 20-man tactical squads and probably hold off on the support guys. The special weapon squads need transports to avoid getting shot off the table and you might be better off with a larger squad all with the same weapon. I have no idea about the heavy support squads. I've never been a big fan of stationary infantry.
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Safety Factor posted:One thing to note: Heavy support squad sergeants also get heavy weapons. I know it doesn't say that in book I, but it got updated later. Ok cool, I'll have six of each heavy and special weapon so I can arm Sgts too. I've already got a Deimos rhino, Sicaran and Xiphon so I can give the support squad a rhino if need be. Maybe I could pickup one of the resin special weapon packs I guess and go for a full ten man plasma squad
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If you give a lightning rad missiles can it still shoot the other types or do they replace the missile launcher entirely? The way it's worded in the book kinda seems like you could interpret it either way.
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TTerrible posted:Ok cool, I'll have six of each heavy and special weapon so I can arm Sgts too. I've already got a Deimos rhino, Sicaran and Xiphon so I can give the support squad a rhino if need be. Maybe I could pickup one of the resin special weapon packs I guess and go for a full ten man plasma squad As a core for your army? Looks great. You can make a lot of lists with those models. Depending on your legion of choice you can run different types of things. Support squads want to be in rhinos, deep struck, out flanked, or drop podded in. Apothecaries and some HQs won't hurt either.
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muggins posted:Yeah honestly I don't get admech. Brainless dudes who are paid to clean armor and put bolts on stuff just doesn't really do it for me. The models have no visual appeal either, so I'll likely go with the primaris and then try to do some support squads or something Don't diss the Taghmata, it's basically a forge world going "alright everyone, pack up all your weird poo poo - especially the stuff I know you think you've been keeping secret - and let's go kick some rear end". For your armor problem, have you considered grav-fist contemptors? The new Cortus in particular are perfect at this job, and a single one in a pod can put some good hurt on a Spartan and make it ready for other elements to finish it off. MasterSlowPoke posted:Nah, if I do 30k it'll probably be Blood Angels. I really liked Fear to Tread for some reason. Ah gotcha, well recasters will increasingly be your only option. Kind of insane that such good models are reduced to this. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Remember grav weapons are essentially haywire guns which leave difficult terrain in HH. A trio of cortus dreads with twin graviton is actually quite a hefty threat for a not outrageous price (~400 pts) which can deal with a large degree of threats. Initative 5 or Rage can work wonders against CC oriented targets.
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DJ Dizzy posted:The relics FW are talking about in the errata, is it only the standard ones available to all, or does it also include the legion specific ones like the photonic blade? It's talking about the relics from the campaign section in Book IV. I don't know what the Photonic Blade is but if it's in your Legiones Astartes section you can take it. If not, you can't (outside of a campaign or certain narrative event or asking your friends very nicely).
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BULBASAUR posted:As a core for your army? Looks great. You can make a lot of lists with those models. Depending on your legion of choice you can run different types of things. Support squads want to be in rhinos, deep struck, out flanked, or drop podded in. Apothecaries and some HQs won't hurt either. Yeah this is just a core to get things rolling really. I'm going to run Imperial Fists. I'm still figuring out what the HQs are, I think I'm going to go with a centurion or something to start with. The 1-3 apothecary unit is a good plan, but I'm wary of spending too many points on the troops blobs.
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It depends on your meta, really. The game swings in one direction or the other. All troops all the time was how it started, now it's mostly armored, which now opens the door for infantry heavy lists again. Then again, that's what people write online and that means nothing compared to your own group.Lord Twisted posted:Remember grav weapons are essentially haywire guns which leave difficult terrain in HH. A trio of cortus dreads with twin graviton is actually quite a hefty threat for a not outrageous price (~400 pts) which can deal with a large degree of threats. Initative 5 or Rage can work wonders against CC oriented targets. Yup, and since each one counts as a separate piece of dangerous terrain it's one test for each plate. I always wanted to run a support squad with grav guns (IH rules), but the lack of relentless makes it not so great. Back when cataphracti armor conferred slow and purposeful it would have made for one hell of a spartan/knight popper. BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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So I ordered the lightning fighter... I have emperor's Children right now and I am planning a night lords force as well. Can I paint this thing in a neutral imperial air force look so I can use it with both in hh?
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muggins posted:So I ordered the lightning fighter... I have emperor's Children right now and I am planning a night lords force as well. Can I paint this thing in a neutral imperial air force look so I can use it with both in hh? They're both traitors and it's just one unit. I'd say just paint it up in whatever scheme you'd prefer and when using the other army say it's on loan or stolen or a gift or whatever. Or go all-in for Shattered Legions. One of the 30k nerds in my local tabletop community is putting together a Shattered Legions list combining Death Guard, Salamanders, and Imperial Fists as a loyalist force.
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I know there's a picture of an Iron Warriors guy in Retribution, but is there any Emperor's Children? btw the IW dude looks great
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DJ Dizzy posted:Do we know what FW are planning post book 7?  Gonna take through 2035 to get to Siege of Terra.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Do we know what FW are planning post book 7? Probably Signus Prime to cover BA and Daemons, and stuff to cover the Dark Angels and White Scars.
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Give me my Dark Angels-specific units, Forge World.  And actual legion rules instead of a placeholder.There's a single-page-panel-thing about a Dark Angel terminator in the new book. He has some sweet custom shoulderpads. I hope those get produced at some point. Besides, I'm going to need more for the magnetization I want to do with my plastic cataphractii.
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Cythereal posted:They're both traitors and it's just one unit. I'd say just paint it up in whatever scheme you'd prefer and when using the other army say it's on loan or stolen or a gift or whatever. Yeah that's what I was thinking too. I'll probably just paint it up in EC as that's my main force.
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Safety Factor posted:Give me my Dark Angels-specific units, Forge World. Agreed! I'm dying to see what we get. Same with the rules for the Lion. Do we know that the legion rules are going to change much?
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DO IT TO IT posted:Agreed! I'm dying to see what we get. Same with the rules for the Lion. Do we know that the legion rules are going to change much? Probably not. I'd except clarifications and some clean up, e.g. better writing on what can take stasis grenades and massively reduced access to assault cannons, rather than big changes.
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DO IT TO IT posted:Agreed! I'm dying to see what we get. Same with the rules for the Lion. Do we know that the legion rules are going to change much? Sword brothers with any traitor legion
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Seems like Forge World is active again on Facebook. With a cute picture  So I guess the new CEO is reversing the company's anti social media policy.
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Mango Polo posted:So I guess the new CEO is reversing the company's anti social media policy. Now if only he would reverse their anti-good game policy.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Now if only he would reverse their anti-good game policy. Baby steps.
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I got a reply from FW regarding rear end cannons. Thank you for your email. I assume that you are referring to the Prototype Weapons - Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon rules on page 259 of HH book 6. It states in there that any Blood angel Model (including vehicles) equipped with a Heavy Flamer may exchange them for an Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon for +5 points. So, you could mount one on a pintle mount on a rhino. Technically you could mount one in a CCW for a dreadnought according to the rules, but i would expect that to be amended in an errata as that's not what it was designed for.
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I think someone just forgot about how many things can actually take a heavy flamer, the proverbial "It sounded like a good idea at the time"
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Still no response about the Dark Angels' stasis grenades.  I legitimately want to use one in a big terminator squad so they can style on some WS3 punks for a round. They can't claim that dumb sword bonus with powerfists or axes. Just let me stick stasis grenades into combi-weapons.
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DJ Dizzy posted:I got a reply from FW regarding rear end cannons. Quad-mount Iliastus Predators are still a go! There's still that entirely theoretical balance of BAs not being allowed more vehicles than infantry units in a force (aside from dedicated transports) but c'mon, even two tactical squads is two predators and an HQ choice seems to count so you can fill all three slots of a predator pick just with the mandatory selection. And pintle-mount a couple of rhinos, not that I think it's a fantastic idea to almost double the cost of something that will die fast.
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Plus they come in squadrons and I think the wording is units, so your HQ and 2 troops give you up to 9 predators.
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How would you guys go about making a praetor on a jetbike? I'm thinking of a robe, sammael-style, but haved looked at that model he seems too funky for my tastes.
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I've taken this guy from my Codex marines army -  And I'm working on him... he's going to have a lava base and a large banner in his off hand, so thats why its posed that way!    
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I'm looking to get a good airbrush setup, but I know nothing about them- I'm looking for suggestions on what I'd need.
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OhDearGodNo posted:I'm looking to get a good airbrush setup, but I know nothing about them- I'm looking for suggestions on what I'd need. Krushgroove / The mini painting thread to the rescue! 
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Praetor: paragon blade (master-crafted); melta bombs; digital lasers; iron halo; Scimitar Jetbike 230 14 Tactical Space Marines: chainswords; legion vexilla; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 240 14 Tactical Space Marines: chainswords; legion vexilla; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 240 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: artificer armour; augury scanner 60 • Apothecary: artificer armour; augury scanner 60 Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons 180 3 Jetbike Sky Hunters: volkite culverin; melta bombs; Sky Hunter Sergeant (power weapon) 185 4 Dark Furies: + 1 Chooser of the Slain 175 Land Speeder Squadron • Land Speeder: multi-melta; graviton gun 75 • Land Speeder: multi-melta; graviton gun 75 • Land Speeder: multi-melta; graviton gun 75 • Land Speeder: multi-melta; graviton gun 75 Corvus Corax 450 Force Commander: iron halo; carapace armour; melta bombs; cyber-familiar; Warrior Elite; Survivors of the Dark Age 210 17 Grenadiers: lasrifles; + 1 Grenadier Sergeant; + 1 Special Weapons Grenadier (plasma gun); + 1 Special Weapons Grenadier (plasma gun); Advanced Weapons 170 17 Grenadiers: lasrifles; + 1 Grenadier Sergeant; + 1 Special Weapons Grenadier (plasma gun); + 1 Special Weapons Grenadier (plasma gun); Advanced Weapons 170 3 Medicae Orderlies 40 3 Auxilia Sentinels: 3× lascannon 120 Militia Auxiliary Battle Tank Attack Squadron • Leman Russ Vanquisher: lascannon 165 2.995 points Thoughts? Im using the Liberation Army RoW.
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Finishing up the Blood Angels Leviathan Dreadnought. Waiting for the base to get here still...
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Righteous, brother.
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