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Chill la Chill posted:
The difference is that Munchkin games can last hours while Conspiracy draft games were lucky to make it past fifteen minutes, and I don't see that changing at all in the next one. Also Magic having player elimination makes it the total opposite of that so idk what you're going for.
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Feb 26, 2016 19:29
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I prefer Knizia's bidding-based self-correcting systems in games to "politics and ganging up" personally. (Mandatory Eurogame plug, of course)
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Feb 26, 2016 19:31
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dragon enthusiast posted:Dang, SOI previews start in two weeks. Feels super early I expect there will be a bit of a blowout on the set before that since its a brand-new block. I have no idea where they would even do that, but that big giant card like the one they use at PAX suggests as such.
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Feb 26, 2016 19:32
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Zoness posted:I prefer Knizia's bidding-based self-correcting systems in games to "politics and ganging up" personally. Sure, and I really like games like Knizia's stuff as well, but Conspiracy's entire schtick is being a politics-based multiplayer limited format.
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Feb 26, 2016 19:33
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Fun thing I happened on while idly researching. There are exactly two creatures printed for the first time in the modern era that satisfy the following requirements: -You can cast them. -Are mono-white. -Have Trample natively. Guess first, then mouseover: Bringer of the White Dawn, Mirror-Sigil Sergeant
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Feb 26, 2016 21:25
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The Shortest Path posted:The difference is that Munchkin games can last hours while Conspiracy draft games were lucky to make it past fifteen minutes, and I don't see that changing at all in the next one. Player elimination is worse for multiplayer (here we go on the EDH track again~) and I don't know what conspiracy games you've played but when I tried it twice, each game of 4 people took ~1.5 hours. Munchkin tends to last that long unless you start using all the awful expansions. Zoness posted:I prefer Knizia's bidding-based self-correcting systems in games to "politics and ganging up" personally.  \/ \/ \/ I wish I could be so lucky. I'll prob try one anyway since I have so much store credit Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 21:30
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my conspiracy games lasted less than ten minutes because I drafted five vent sentinels and that conspiracy that tutors them all into your hand 
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Feb 26, 2016 21:40
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dragon enthusiast posted:my conspiracy games lasted less than ten minutes because I drafted five vent sentinels and that conspiracy that tutors them all into your hand mine lasted a long time because i drafted four copies of compulsive research and conspiracies such that they cost U and i cast a copy when i cast them the only draft i ever won while being in danger of decking every game
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Feb 26, 2016 21:45
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I played Munchkin once, got the tutor card, realized how stupid broken the game was in general, decided never to play again. HTH.
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Feb 26, 2016 21:46
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ShaneB posted:I played Munchkin once, got the tutor card, realized how stupid broken the game was in general, decided never to play again. HTH.
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Feb 26, 2016 21:50
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dragon enthusiast posted:my conspiracy games lasted less than ten minutes because I drafted five vent sentinels and that conspiracy that tutors them all into your hand UW fliers with all the favorable winds, doomed travellers and intangible virtues I could pick was the most fun deck.
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Feb 26, 2016 22:06
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the thing about munchkin is that its only good for people who dont care if a game is good or not
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Feb 26, 2016 22:22
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Yawgmoth posted:I played Munchkin once, watched a bunch of people throw consecutive tantrums about getting denied a win, and decided to never play it with anyone who I am not already drinking with. Yeah, seriously just play Drinking Quest!
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Feb 26, 2016 22:39
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I wish they hadn't gone with the four-player-game thing for Conspiracy, because I liked literally everything else about it. The cards that alter the draft were a really cool idea and pretty well done, the flavor was good, it was a decent draft set with fun reprints. It's just that everything after the draft portion is awful if you don't enjoy 4 player magic.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:07
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Cernunnos posted:
Uh, yes. That would be the best thing ever. Bloodsoaked champion for 1 less mana with a sorcery speed caveat, I'm all about that. Would a 1 mana 2/1 with dethrone be too good?
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Feb 27, 2016 00:15
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I always drafted a sweet G/X deck, relying on Respite and Provoke to gently caress with enemies and prevent my own damage. It was always hilarious fun.
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Feb 27, 2016 00:35
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I would just wait for people to pass the confusing rares like Pernicious Deed to me.
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Feb 27, 2016 00:38
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odiv posted:I would just wait for people to pass the confusing rares like Pernicious Deed to me. For a "casual draft environment" Decimate gave a buncha people the feel bads when you pointed out that it needed legal targets for all four types.
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Feb 27, 2016 00:43
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Entropic posted:I wish they hadn't gone with the four-player-game thing for Conspiracy, because I liked literally everything else about it. The cards that alter the draft were a really cool idea and pretty well done, the flavor was good, it was a decent draft set with fun reprints. It's just that everything after the draft portion is awful if you don't enjoy 4 player magic. I thought it was fun, just a very different game environment which means you need to draft differently. Cards like Fires of Yavimaya, which are normally very good in 1v1, are awful in a 4-player game because they say "kill me or I could mess you up" so people will go after you. Vent Sentinel, which is pretty lackluster in 1v1, is suddenly incredibly OP because it hits opponents without having to tap on your turn and blocks very well (also because people are generally terrible at threat assessment and don't use removal on them). The format really rewarded playing good blockers backed up with ridiculously huge (like 15/15 or bigger) finishers, preferably given haste by that one Conspiracy. If you were going to play aggro in that format you had to bring a whole bunch of fliers or go home, and you still might not get there. Dethrone was an interesting mechanic but was not actually very good in practice because attacking with a less-than-gigantic creature isn't really a great strategy in a 4-player game. Voting was really cool though, I enjoyed it a lot especially the 2 mana black card that Edicts all your opponents. The Conspiracy cards were also great, nearly every single one was either a tiny bit or incredibly broken. Turns out starting with resources beyond 20 life + 7 cards is pretty strong! Some of them were probably a little too good, which I noticed after taking 20 damage from two cast Brimstone Volleys
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Feb 27, 2016 01:26
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Conspiracy did some cool things in Legacy and I hope Conspiracy 2: Grenzoic Boogaloo continues to do cool things in Legacy
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Feb 27, 2016 01:28
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Lets Pickle posted:I thought it was fun, just a very different game environment which means you need to draft differently. Cards like Fires of Yavimaya, which are normally very good in 1v1, are awful in a 4-player game because they say "kill me or I could mess you up" so people will go after you. Vent Sentinel, which is pretty lackluster in 1v1, is suddenly incredibly OP because it hits opponents without having to tap on your turn and blocks very well (also because people are generally terrible at threat assessment and don't use removal on them). The format really rewarded playing good blockers backed up with ridiculously huge (like 15/15 or bigger) finishers, preferably given haste by that one Conspiracy. If you were going to play aggro in that format you had to bring a whole bunch of fliers or go home, and you still might not get there. My favorite time was when 2 of my 3 opponents had huge haymaker creatures as their only creature. So I cast a Tyrant's Choice, we got 2 votes for each so they all lost 4 life. So I cast another Tyrant's choice, and they lost another 4 life. Then I cast a Smallpox. 
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Feb 27, 2016 01:31
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Into an unknown modern meta(I literally play constructed against someone who isn't my son 5 times a year) What would be the recommended deck to play: Blue moon Rw burn Grixis control
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Feb 27, 2016 01:45
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notbrant posted:Into an unknown modern meta(I literally play constructed against someone who isn't my son 5 times a year) Blue Moon. I don't think Burn or Grixis is positioned very well at all right now.
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Feb 27, 2016 01:47
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Am I the only who keeps unintentionally calling the upcoming set "Scars of Innistrad?"
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Feb 27, 2016 02:26
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Angry Grimace posted:Am I the only who keeps unintentionally calling the upcoming set "Scars of Innistrad?" Nope.
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Feb 27, 2016 02:49
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is there a pauper thread or anything or anywhere to go to figure out the MTGO pauper meta? I did a league with what I thought was a clever loving deck but apparently everyone else is playing these mega combo artifact decks because I lost to 5 in a row. (3 of the exact same deck as far as I could tell with the affinity/atog/carapace forger) I mean I guess I could just make a mono red artifact hate deck and hope I roll into the same set of decks again but maybe I just got a weird streak thing going instead.
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Feb 27, 2016 05:10
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Telex posted:is there a pauper thread or anything or anywhere to go to figure out the MTGO pauper meta? Also http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper
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Feb 27, 2016 05:15
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The power level in Pauper is quite high. Yes, it's commons only, but it includes cards all the way back to when Wizards had no idea what the gently caress they were doing with regards to balancing the game so you will still run into decks packed full of cards that are banned in Modern and other 'we-will-never-print-poo poo-like-this-again' mistakes.
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Feb 27, 2016 05:28
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I just 4/1'd a league with Living End. My prizes? A SINGLE OGW Booster and 120 pieces of Wizards Scrip. I spent $8 worth of tix and got a $4 pack. Why does anyone play this game? Also I'm going to repeat myself for the 1000th time: Pauper owns and everyone should join Goon League VII: Dirge of Faeries for some good, clean fun (also so you can watch me play an inconsistent deck and complain a bunch about mulligans.) We're starting some time around the 7th so you've got plenty of time to figure stuff out. There's lots of people who are willing to help you if you don't know what to play, where to find cards, etc. You can PM me or send me a message on MTGO: suicidesteve44. Make sure you read the first post so you know the rules!
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Feb 27, 2016 06:39
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Went 4-0 without dropping a single game tonight at FNM with UR Eldrazi. I love this deck.
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Feb 27, 2016 06:49
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Went 4-0 without dropping a single game tonight at FNM with UR Eldrazi. modern or standard?
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Feb 27, 2016 06:51
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Entropic posted:modern or standard? Modern. Round 1 I played some kind of UW artifact ramp deck. No idea. He died. Round 2 I played.... I actually forget. Round 3 was against burn and he died the first game to reality smasher then died to chalice game 2. Round 4 was against UW Eldrazi and he died to me being faster.
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Went to my LGS for FNM today since work called me in last week and I missed out. Found out they were scheduling a Pauper event for the middle of next month.  Apparently one of the guys last week wanted to make it printed-at-common-in-paper only (Battle Screech  ) but I think I've convinced the owner to go with Paper + Online with the ban-list that Card Kingdom was/is using (Online list + Goblin Grenade, High Tide, Sinkhole, and Hymn). Hopefully it goes well and we can do it again.Does anyone think anything else needs to be banned or is the CK list good enough to keep things under control? It's a fairly small shop so I don't exactly expect everyone to show up with some insane deck if something is broken but I'd hate for someone to show up with cards-i-own.dec, get completely  -ed because the "usual suspects" (3 guys who are pretty cool most of the time but probably wouldn't hesitate to do it) realized something busted got overlooked, and then completely abandon the format. It'll be bad enough for them going up against any actual Pauper decks when their deck is built out of just Standard-cards-from-the-last-few-years/whatever-the-shop-has-lying-around (not much more than that honestly) let alone some busted thing.
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Feb 27, 2016 07:32
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Went to my first Friday Night Magic and my first time playing the game competitively since like, Urza's Saga. Needless to say, I got blown the gently caress up but it was fun and I'll be back, maybe even with a basic understanding of what is in the block or what an ally is.
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Feb 27, 2016 08:08
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Cernunnos posted:Went to my LGS for FNM today since work called me in last week and I missed out. Found out they were scheduling a Pauper event for the middle of next month.
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Feb 27, 2016 08:45
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So what cards actually get lost if you just play with common-on-paper cards? Battle screech is one, but what else?
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Jenx posted:So what cards actually get lost if you just play with common-on-paper cards? Battle screech is one, but what else? Arrogant wurm, which may actually become playable if we get a gift in SoI. Edit: in addition to hymn and high tide, it's probably a good idea to ban sinkhole if you think anyone is crazy enough to go out and buy a playset. fomo sacer fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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Feb 27, 2016 09:04
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Jenx posted:So what cards actually get lost if you just play with common-on-paper cards? Battle screech is one, but what else? Chainer's Edict is the biggest one, and Chainer's Edict is a loving sweet card. There is no downside to using paper+online commons. Battle Screech, Brindle Boar, Tangle, some of the worse Tempest Slivers, they're all fine cards that add depth to certain archetypes (and Screech made White Weenie not a joke for the first time) and if you search for "common" in Gatherer or Magiccards.info you get all the commons so why wouldn't you allow online commons?
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Won at least one game each round today in draft with Inverter of Truth. It's so loving cool when you push aside your deck and go "I am beating you with the 3 cards in my graveyard" (though to be fair one of those cards was usually Reality Smasher, my god the value)
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Cactrot posted:UW fliers with all the favorable winds, doomed travellers and intangible virtues I could pick was the most fun deck. Sorry you never got to draft orzhov voting. That's the most fun deck. U/W fliers is a good one, but one Vow of Duty and it beats you, usually without you even realizing it. It's like in multiplayer commander when you reach the point where everyone knows who the presumptive winner will be, but dick around trying to keep the others from comboing off. What you do is encourage infighting and absusing the tendancy to vote for whatever screws over the guy winning. You can use the same haymakers from the flying deck too, it is a ridiculous color combo. We drafted enough Conspiracy to enact and abide by a no durdle rule that helps the format immensely, so politics were very powerful. It helps that if someone plays the usual 40 cards there is a good chance they will deck out if they don't do something with the strong card draw in the format.
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