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CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

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The thing about bad fanfiction doing this is that the purpose behind it is significantly different. Namely, to mentally fellate the author at the expense of the story. Whereas on this show, whenever this is done I've always seen it lead to an event of note (such as Silver confronting Flint over it on the boat and him letting him in his head because of it, which leads to Silver talking Flint out of that escape attempt, that prolly wouldn't have worked and would've killed him). Similarly, I'm pretty sure there were swathes of people going: "Why all the gay poo poo? This is slash fiction lol!" during Season 2, but it too was important to establish that when people Flint cares about get taken from him, he tends to go quite berserk and that this is the chief reason for him waging this war in Season 3 over Barlow, rather than his initial rationalizing: "I am your King" reason in Season 1.

All that being said, I do agree that the focus has been on Flint a bit much during this season and if you don't find his character the main interest of the show, then yea, you're getting a raw deal lol. Personally, I really liked Billy's change during Season 2, that comes from his torture, and kinda hope to see more from him. Hell, his line: "And I'm just here waiting until this story starts to make sense again." could easily be argued as a 4th-wall breaker, if you're not a fan of Flint's.

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Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
You hyper critical guys are so wacky.

Could suck the fun out of a kids party.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Man, Mr Scott just kind of refuses to die.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Rackham, you big dumb idiot, you.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
Man that intercut of Anne literally killing the messenger was a great reminder what a stone cold badass she is. Expected a little more from the duel between Flint and Blackbeard but it was good. I guess it wasn't supposed to feel epic, but they could have made it moreso. I did notice some great sound work in everything that went on the beach there, so kudos to you sound Goon.



Next episode:

Rogers: Rackham, I'm going to see you executed!

Rackham: Would you mind doing it publicly, with tickets sold for prime seating, in a large venue. Also please kill me in a manner that has never been done before...oh and have someone ready with a plaque to denote the location of the precise spot for future persons to come and see. Thanks!

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Would he have him executed? It removes any hope of Anne ever resurfacing.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine
Blackbeard is dying?

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Immortan posted:

Blackbeard is dying?

Does put his initial season opening monologue into perspective. He knows he'll die eventually of that shrapnel, so he's set to live dangerously until then.

Alas, some things hurt the heart far worse than shrapnel. Like being rejected by your protege for the second time in your life, after you swore you wouldn't fall for it again, lol.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


A funny thing about Blackbeard is that every time he's portrayed in movies and TV shows he's always too old. He never made it to 40.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Another weak episode in a string of them. Standard Black Sails fare though. Open the season strong with lots of ship goodness and then settle in for a stretch of people trapped on islands and constantly shifting factions vying boringly for power, then usually pick it up for the season finale when something is allowed to happen again. (But no important characters will die.)

Is anyone actually rooting for Flint or Blackbeard or Jack or Woodes Rogers or bloody Max or...?

Positives: I still sit through the theme song. That beach where the really disappointing duel happened was pretty. I liked the scene where the sail lashing fell apart - that was nice and ship-based. Flint's shaved head is still rad.

am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010

VagueRant posted:



Is anyone actually rooting for Flint or Blackbeard or Jack ?



yes

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

I'm rooting for Silver.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
Personally, I'm rooting for Woodes Rogers. He seems so nice and gentlemanly. If only these mean ole pirate manchildren would cut him some slack. :(

Seriously, tho, I like that one can legit root for whoever they like most and won't have some grognard jump down their throat with a: "Why aren't you rooting for Stannis the Mannis?!"

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.
I thought this was a pretty good episode. I liked Silver and the Princess' bit where she told him that it is not weakness to accept help. I feel like that is going to come back around with Silver again in the future.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
I hope Woodes Rogers doesn't give the Spanish their gold upfront. If they're planning on torching the island anyway, he'd might as well keep it. Send a messenger ahead to Cuba saying that they recovered most of the gold but its going to take a few days to load and arrange an escort for, however it appears that some pirates ran off with a relatively small share of gold they traded for pearls/gems for portability. If the Spanish have a problem with that, tell them to gently caress off and they can get nothing. Either they are satisfied to get most of their gold back (that they lost in the first place) or they get none of it back and start a fresh war with England. I don't see why the English need to pay the Spanish to come kick their asses.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





I'm hoping for a English/Pirate team up against the Spanish and then as part of the agreement Woodes is run off

meristem
Oct 2, 2010
I HAVE THE ETIQUETTE OF STIFF AND THE PERSONALITY OF A GIANT CUNT.

CrazyLoon posted:

if you're not a fan of Flint's.
You know, I think this is it. Although between Silver's romance, Vane's daddy issues, Jack's problems with his legacy... It seems that they substituted politics for angst for almost everyone this year.

That post was mostly a result of my sudden reflection, 'why am I watching a show about pirates going through romances, daddy issues and pondering their lifetime legacy? Where's the rum?' But I recall I had similar problems with the lull last year, so I tried to moderate my language. After last year, I'm pretty goddamn sure that the endseason will be worth it.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Needs more "Tits? Fruit?"

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
After asking if they would go to the Outerbanks last week, it was nice to see they do go to Ocracoke Island this week. I was hoping we would get that 'biggest pirate party of all-time' since Flint showed up, but no luck.

meristem posted:

That post was mostly a result of my sudden reflection, 'why am I watching a show about pirates going through romances, daddy issues and pondering their lifetime legacy? Where's the rum?'

I know this is what I call a bubble gum show (I am not expecting Mad Men here, just something on or above Vikings level), but good chance I wouldn't like it without the daddy issues, romances, and legacy stuff. Honestly the only complaint I've had about this season so far was keeping Flint away from Nassau for so long.

Also I'm try to convince all my metal head friends pirates are cool than vikings. Better weather (outside of hurricanes), better drink, better parties, and none of that Odin religious stuff. Only bad thing about pirates is the short life span.

Edit: Also I would have to say most of the acting is pretty stellar on this show, which puts it above Vikings in quality.

nate fisher fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Feb 29, 2016

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!

nate fisher posted:


Edit: Also I would have to say most of the acting is pretty stellar on this show, which puts it above Vikings in quality.

Jack Rackham would fit perfectly into the new advisor to King Ragnar. And the thought of a bath scene(non-sexual for those that haven't seen Vikings) with Ecbert and Flint would just be amazing.

TV needs more crossover episodes. Thank god Law and Order still crosses over whatever else is on NBC.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Rackham would fit right in at Better Call Saul.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

PaybackJack posted:

And the thought of a bath scene(non-sexual for those that haven't seen Vikings) with Ecbert and Flint would just be amazing.

Season 1/2 Flint anyway:

Flint: "Do you think you are a good man?"
Ecbert: "Yes. I think so. And you?"
Flint: "Yes. I think so. Are you corrupt?"
Ecbert: "Oh yesss! You?"
Flint: "Mhm."

Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


I forget to mention it at the time, but I was all about that scene a week or so ago where Flint was like "Oh poo poo. Rogers is doing exactly what Thomas and I wanted to do. Should I stop him? Yes."

Also, I actively cheered when Vane saved Flint this week.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012

Xoidanor posted:

Rackham would fit right in at Better Call Saul.
Oh dang, the crossover I didn't even know I wanted.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Roach Warehouse posted:

I forget to mention it at the time, but I was all about that scene a week or so ago where Flint was like "Oh poo poo. Rogers is doing exactly what Thomas and I wanted to do. Should I stop him? Yes."

Also, I actively cheered when Vane saved Flint this week.

Teach is kind of a dick, so my stomach was turning when Flint was losing that sword fight. I also sort of wondered how Teach did so well considering he had just been grazed by a pistol ball, unless it didn't really hurt him all that much and he just meant to act like it did to make Flint think he had an advantage.

Vane continues to be the biggest badass on the show

Med School
Feb 27, 2012

Where did you learn how to do that?
Can't wait to see Silver hook up with the princess, and teach her everything he knows about manipulating people. Next season she can be a captain and go around loving everyone up.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
Teach comes off as more of a dick, because his being a pirate is less so about ideology through pirates, started by poo poo that was taken from him, as it is with Flint's and now also Vane's path (him being a former slave and all), and moreso about adding to the legacy of the pirate account for its own sake. And because of that piece of shrapnel, the only way he can do that in a way that will last is through worthy followers that are sufficiently like him, which is why he's always been so fixated on grooming Vane. Of course, as Flint points out during their sitdown - none of it (the fleet from Nassau and the pirates on it) ever was his to begin with. He just figured he'd give the old days, when it looked like strength of will alone would be enough to carry you and you could steal all you needed, one last shot in his autumn years by taking advantage of a crisis.

On the one hand, a lot of the things he says are true. But on the other, his way of what to do with those things offers little perspective for anyone's future, his own included.

CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 29, 2016

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011

Med School posted:

Can't wait to see Silver hook up with the princess, and teach her everything he knows about manipulating people. Next season she can be a captain and go around loving everyone up.

Aren't the princess and billy bones married in treasure island?

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

Aren't the princess and billy bones married in treasure island?

Silver has an African wife.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

nate fisher posted:

Also I'm try to convince all my metal head friends pirates are cool than vikings. Better weather (outside of hurricanes), better drink, better parties, and none of that Odin religious stuff. Only bad thing about pirates is the short life span.

you're trying to convince them pirates are cooler by saying that the pirates have nice, pleasant, non-challenging weather and that they don't support giant wolves eating everything and huge world-spanning trees and the ultimate party-fight afterlife Valhalla???

Med School
Feb 27, 2012

Where did you learn how to do that?

Boogaleeboo posted:

Silver has an African wife.

drat I gotta read Treasure Island

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

Babe Magnet posted:

you're trying to convince them pirates are cooler by saying that the pirates have nice, pleasant, non-challenging weather and that they don't support giant wolves eating everything and huge world-spanning trees and the ultimate party-fight afterlife Valhalla???

Maybe if I could actually pretend Valhalla was real I could get on board, but give me the beach and rum over that cold crap (now in video games give me Skyrim, because I hate Assassin Creed games).

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

I think your first mistake might have been the line of thinking that "cool" has to be in any way based in reality. Perhaps that's where you and the people you're trying to convince don't see exactly eye-to-eye.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

muscles like this? posted:

A funny thing about Blackbeard is that every time he's portrayed in movies and TV shows he's always too old. He never made it to 40.

I'd like to imagine being a captain of a pirate ship for as long as he was gave him enough stress to look pretty loving old for his age. So just imagine him as an old looking mid 30's.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Holyshoot posted:

I'd like to imagine being a captain of a pirate ship for as long as he was gave him enough stress to look pretty loving old for his age. So just imagine him as an old looking mid 30's.

I'd say getting Ray Stevenson was the right move, as he's older, but still looks young enough to be Blackbeard, if that makes sense.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
People ITT have often gone on about cast members going shirtless on screen, but lemme just be the first to say god-DAYUM to Ray Stevenson's chest. He was somewhat bulky on Rome, but this time around it's like he's a drat tank.

I now cannot help but imagine a man with that chest, Billy Bones' amazing forearms AND Silver's charming looks (legs too, for that pirate flair). The ultimate hulking pirate voltron.

CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Mar 1, 2016

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002
I really liked this episode. Choosing not to have music for the duel was a good choice, and the sound work there was awesome. Great work, Goon! I'm definitely trying to pay more attention to it since you've started posting about it.

I hope Jack never stop scheming. He's probably my favorite at this point. :allears:

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Med School posted:

Can't wait to see Silver hook up with the princess, and teach her everything he knows about manipulating people. Next season she can be a captain and go around loving everyone up.

Is this a joke?

Med School
Feb 27, 2012

Where did you learn how to do that?

Immortan posted:

Is this a joke?

She might have the hots for him, holding his hand when he's in pain and what not. Her father just told her that the future he wants for her is for her to be smart enough to wage war on society.

I really liked how down to earth the duel was. I felt like I was watching a real fight between pirates instead of some super exaggerated bullshit. Is Michael bays name still attached to this?

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Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Axel Serenity posted:

I really liked this episode. Choosing not to have music for the duel was a good choice, and the sound work there was awesome. Great work, Goon! I'm definitely trying to pay more attention to it since you've started posting about it.

I hope Jack never stop scheming. He's probably my favorite at this point. :allears:

Jack is an idiot. Should have never gone back. He could have won!!!!!!

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