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Thug Lessons posted:It's pretty insane living in a world where the candidate whose Russia policy has the highest practicality + sanity sum is loving Donald Trump. It's pretty insane that someone is suggesting doing the same thing Hillary Clinton tried as Secretary of State, only macho, and expecting results to be different (besides what country gets invaded next). Well, what's a few thousand dead Ukrainias and who knows how many dead Syrians between egomaniacs?
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Slow burn wars are good business for oil, arms, and drugs.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 07:06 |
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Vagon posted:As an outsider to the American right, what has Trump's talk/policy on Russia been? Kill them all or respect for another Stronk Man? Leaning more towards Respect Stronk Man than killemall. Basically his policy is to carve up the ME equally between Our Dictators and Your Dicators, and brutally murder anyone who steps a toe out of line or towards Islamism. It fits very nicely with Putin's policy
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 07:08 |
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American politics.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 07:09 |
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Friendly Humour posted:American politics. Global politics - you should have a vote in the process. The wallet, the ballot, and the bullet are the three options an individual on planet earth has.
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Thug Lessons posted:Look at the comments from the series of posters you're responding to. Everyone acknowledges the current political support for Putin is entirely predictable given Obama's response, and he and the rest of the executive branch were definitely not ignorant that this would be the case.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 07:32 |
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McDowell posted:Slow burn wars are good business for oil, arms, and drugs. Well, they haven't been enough to help oil all that much in the last year or so.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 07:34 |
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Pakled posted:Well, they haven't been enough to help oil all that much in the last year or so. Too many players on the market. Daesh selling oil is like the Chinese banana cart stock trader.
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Friendly Humour posted:American politics. Sorry about that. It was more my interest in future American/Russian relations. Didn't mean to derail the thread too much.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 08:15 |
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U S A U S A U S A
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 08:38 |
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kalstrams posted:Your line of thought is the penultimate achievement of Putin's policies.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 08:59 |
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MH17 Truther logic on display https://twitter.com/tedcruzinvasion/status/703724459652308992
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 09:01 |
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Brown Moses posted:MH17 Truther logic on display
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 09:18 |
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Brown Moses posted:MH17 Truther logic on display gently caress. That's really, really dumb.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 09:22 |
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guess what missile also uses 30 mm ball bearings its a buk
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 10:22 |
Twitter user tedcruzinvasion needs something to do while daydreaming about the darkest timeline under snotling king Cruz.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 10:34 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:gently caress. That's really, really dumb. It's so loving dumb I still have no idea what it's trying to say. Like I understand the logic behind "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" but this is... wtf ???
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 10:41 |
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sparatuvs posted:guess what missile also uses 30 mm ball bearings No, you don't understand, it's the proof that an unpressurized, ground attack aircraft that is physically incapable of climbing to airliner altitude without killing its pilot has engaged in dogfight with an airliner. There is a documentary about how it happened, except they put time travel in the mix for plausible deniability.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 11:03 |
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mobby_6kl posted:It's so loving dumb I still have no idea what it's trying to say. Like I understand the logic behind "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" but this is... wtf ??? There's a 30mm hole in the plane, SU-25 fires 30mm bullets, therefore it must have been shot by an SU-25. QED.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 11:14 |
Cat Mattress posted:No, you don't understand, it's the proof that an unpressurized, ground attack aircraft that is physically incapable of climbing to airliner altitude without killing its pilot has engaged in dogfight with an airliner. I'm pretty sure that movie has fewer holes in its plot than Russia's version of events (coincidentally so does MH17s fuselage).
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 11:18 |
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We're working on a few more MH17 reports, plus a 2 year anniversary report that's intended to be sort of the ultimate summary of all the information known so far, plus a look at various theories. We're still finding new bits and pieces, like we've noticed one of the videos from Russia that shows Buk 3x2 shows a white mark that's also visible on the Luhansk video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4udtaWZTI5I
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http://yle.fi/uutiset/tsetseenijohtaja_ramzan_kadyrov_sanoo_olevansa_valmis_luopumaan_vallasta/8705028 Yle reporting that Kadyrov ready to step down when his term is up in April. According to News Agency AP he said: "leaders of the state have to find someone else, so my name won't be used against my people".
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:11 |
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Brown Moses posted:MH17 Truther logic on display The obviously stupid parts distracted me from the not-quite-so-obviously stupid parts.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:16 |
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Young Freud posted:Now would be the time to put missile defense as a top priority. It would neutralize the Russians' perennial threats of nuclear annihilation whenever someone considers countering something like Crimea takeover or using regular military in Donbass. Let the Russians spend to try to modernize their ballistic weapons to penetrate an upgraded missile defense network, it'll pull more money from their conventional military and bankrupt them faster. Imagine what would happen to their foreign policy if the Russians didn't have their nuclear weapons, we wouldn't be sitting on our hands with letting them bomb rebels and prop up Assad in Syria. I don't like that Russia can pull this off and nobody can do anything about it, but alternatives like this have the potential to be immeasurably worse. You can't really do much militarily against a nuclear state. e: Not that I think that going out there to fight a big conventional war against Russia is a good solution, even if it was plausible. Elukka fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Feb 28, 2016 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:The obviously stupid parts distracted me from the not-quite-so-obviously stupid parts. poo poo, right after you posted this I noticed it too. Wow, that really is goddamn stupid.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:25 |
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Darkrenown posted:There's a 30mm hole in the plane, SU-25 fires 30mm bullets, therefore it must have been shot by an SU-25. QED. That's pretty dumb of course. But what I was trying to figure out is whether they were claiming the SU-25 was equipped with a rivet gun or something... because that hole isn't even 30mm wide according to their own image
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:26 |
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Libluini posted:poo poo, right after you posted this I noticed it too. Wow, that really is goddamn stupid. Fuckin' geometry, how does it work?
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:31 |
A Buttery Pastry posted:Penultimate means second to last. What do you think is/will be his final achievement? Restoring Tsarist Russia?
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:44 |
A Buttery Pastry posted:Penultimate means second to last. What do you think is/will be his final achievement? Restoring Tsarist Russia?
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:58 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Fuckin' geometry, how does it work? anilEhilated posted:The USSR, in a more fascist variation. Tsarist Russia obviously doesn't encompass all that's rightfully Property Of The Russian Empire.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:58 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:The obviously stupid parts distracted me from the not-quite-so-obviously stupid parts. goddamn
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A Buttery Pastry posted:
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 13:53 |
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kalstrams posted:Opus magnum of Putin definitely will be the restoration of former statehood, though I think of that of the Soviet Union. anilEhilated posted:Oh, that's right. Make is USSR with all the satellites. And Finland for good measure, it's obviously been Russian all along.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 14:01 |
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Young Freud posted:Expect Ukraine, Georgia, and the Baltics to be sold out and reintegrated with Russia by 2020 under President Trump. I don't get the impression that Trump is the sort of guy who would just hand an entire region of developed world over to their arch-nemesis. Furthermore, I don't think any U.S. president can make that decision without the approval of his military leadership. Empires don't voluntarily give away their power and influence, it has never happened and it never will.
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OhYeah posted:I don't get the impression that Trump is the sort of guy who would just hand an entire region of developed world over to their arch-nemesis. Furthermore, I don't think any U.S. president can make that decision without the approval of his military leadership. Empires don't voluntarily give away their power and influence, it has never happened and it never will.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 14:26 |
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anilEhilated posted:He can just do it by inaction. Guy supposedly respects Putin for being a strong leader, Putin will play him like a fiddle. Trump is a complete narcissist and if he gets into the White House, he will be the leader of the greatest empire that has ever existed on this planet. He will give jack poo poo to Putin.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:03 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:The obviously stupid parts distracted me from the not-quite-so-obviously stupid parts. I see the diameter/area confusion stupid part, what's the other one?
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OhYeah posted:Trump is a complete narcissist and if he gets into the White House, he will be the leader of the greatest empire that has ever existed on this planet. He will give jack poo poo to Putin. Wait, now you have me confused, Trump will end up President of China if he gets into the White House?
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:11 |
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Brown Moses posted:MH17 Truther logic on display There is literally nothing on a 777 that is metric lol
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:05 |
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OddObserver posted:Bonus points for mention of "lack of alternatives" on one year anniversary of the Nemtsov assassination. From what I hear, Nemtsov was a pretty crappy alternative even before he got capped. Being a major presence in the dramatically corrupt, dissident-murdering, economy-mauling Yeltsin government didn't win him many friends (of course, Putin's government does the exact same things, but an alternative is generally supposed to be better).
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