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warcake
Apr 10, 2010
Eh it would have all ground itself to spec if you kept driving it anyway.

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cyberbug
Sep 30, 2004

The name is Carl Seltz...
insurance inspector.

DiggityDoink posted:

I had an experience like this but it was a blizzard at 3am when everyone at work went home and locked the building. Then thanks to a wiring fuckup in the car, it would lock the doors every time you started the car. My phone and keys were sitting on the passenger seat and I ended up just breaking one of the partial side windows to get in. loving stupid Blazer.

A friend of mine was also in a situation where he had to break one of the windows of his car to get in. "I'll break the smallest one, it's probably the cheapest!" he thought. The smallest one was one of those little ventilation windows with vertical hinges in the middle, like in a beetle. (It wasn't a beetle but I forget which car it was.) Turns out it was the most expensive window in the car to replace. He would have saved quite a bit of money if he had just smashed the windscreen instead.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Windscreens make a godawful mess when you smash them, since they use laminate glass instead of safety glass. Always break the safety glass... at least it doesn't spall razor sharp little fragments from the edges of the larger pieces that stay stuck to the laminate film.

Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.
How the hell do you even smash a windscreen to get in, without spending significant time, damaging the car, or creating a horrible mess (sawzall)?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

How the hell do you even smash a windscreen to get in, without spending significant time, damaging the car, or creating a horrible mess (sawzall)?

Ceramic fragments from a shattered spark plug works awesome. :v:

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

xzzy posted:

Ceramic fragments from a shattered spark plug works awesome. :v:

I don't think that works on a windscreen.

My Res-Q (which I am dying to use in real life) won't work on screens

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

xzzy posted:

Ceramic fragments from a shattered spark plug works awesome. :v:

That only works on safety glass.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

How the hell do you even smash a windscreen to get in, without spending significant time, damaging the car, or creating a horrible mess (sawzall)?

Yeah, windscreens are tough as gently caress.

My ex totalled her car after pulling out in front of someone. For some reason the busted up vehicle sat in her sister's back yard for awhile.

One night after we broke up I got incredibly drunk with her sister and decided it would be a good idea to throw a cinder block through the car's windshield. It spider-webbed and dented but never broke the the point anyone would be able to get into the car.

The horrible mechanical failure is every decision I made that night.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
You should've hosed her drunken sister in the broken-down car.

There was opportunity for so much more damage.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
Windows are stronger than you'd think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bw39SIiHrQ

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Seat Safety Switch posted:

You should've hosed her drunken sister in the broken-down car.

There was opportunity for so much more damage.

Yeah, I think that happening was kinda implied with his post though. :v:

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Windscreens are tough as gently caress (although only from the outside) but most of them are just held on with a wad of adhesive butyl rubber all around the edge, aka the always-sticky flavor of weatherstripping. If you have a screwdriver or just manly fingers it's not hard to pop off the trim on one side, jam your way through the sticky poo poo, and lever the windscreen right up. All of that usually also applies to fixed-position windows (as long as they aren't mounted on a door) like the side trunk windows on hatches and wagons or van windows.

On the other hand, in my opinion the cheapest answer is usually to just lever open the top rear corner of a door until you can reach something, but whether or not you crack the window in the process is a coin flip (still better than smashing it out though). Bending the doorframe back into place yourself afterwards is a lot cheaper than auto glass and a zillion hours of vacuuming. :v:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

cyberbug posted:

A friend of mine was also in a situation where he had to break one of the windows of his car to get in. "I'll break the smallest one, it's probably the cheapest!" he thought. The smallest one was one of those little ventilation windows with vertical hinges in the middle, like in a beetle. (It wasn't a beetle but I forget which car it was.) Turns out it was the most expensive window in the car to replace. He would have saved quite a bit of money if he had just smashed the windscreen instead.

Ugh. I made this same mistake once. Wasn't a hinged window, it was just that tiny window in the back door next to the larger window.

$150 later....

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

BlackMK4 posted:

Yeah, I think that happening was kinda implied with his post though. :v:

Actually I did have a hell of a crush but she was a lot smarter than I was and realized that it was misplaced affection on my part due to the refusal to deal with a dead relationship and so nothing ended up happening and she had way too much self respect to gently caress a guy that used to gently caress her sister.

It was a dark time all around, but I definitely came away from it with a distinct respect for the strength of windshield glass.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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some texas redneck posted:

Ugh. I made this same mistake once. Wasn't a hinged window, it was just that tiny window in the back door next to the larger window.

$150 later....

One of my friends had his 2001 Legacy sedan broken into, the thieves must have had the same general idea, they smashed the little window next to the C pillar instead of one of the main door windows (which, i should add, are frameless on that generation of Legacy, thus making it incredibly easy to break in with a wooden wedge and a coathanger, but whatever)



$750. And that was the price at a local glass specialist who are renowned for their cheapness. It would have been $250 for a door window.

They didn't even take any of the valuables! all they took was a 2-port USB cigarette lighter adapter, a microUSB cable, and an unopened pack of mints.
They left behind the $350 headunit and $200 oldish android smartphone (his old phone, kept in glovebox for "oh poo poo i need to call emergency services" type situations).

what the poo poo?!

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



literally a fish posted:

One of my friends had his 2001 Legacy sedan broken into, the thieves must have had the same general idea, they smashed the little window next to the C pillar instead of one of the main door windows (which, i should add, are frameless on that generation of Legacy, thus making it incredibly easy to break in with a wooden wedge and a coathanger, but whatever)



$750. And that was the price at a local glass specialist who are renowned for their cheapness. It would have been $250 for a door window.

They didn't even take any of the valuables! all they took was a 2-port USB cigarette lighter adapter, a microUSB cable, and an unopened pack of mints.
They left behind the $350 headunit and $200 oldish android smartphone (his old phone, kept in glovebox for "oh poo poo i need to call emergency services" type situations).

what the poo poo?!

Interrupted in the act.

Or dumb kids.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
I'd lean towards dumb kids.

When I lived in Phoenix, I was walking home about 11pm one night and kept hearing sharp cracking noises echoing off the buildings. I came around the corner and saw that a line of about twenty parked cars all had their driver's side mirrors broken off. Down at the end of the street, two teenagers were taking flying kicks at one car after another, knocking off every mirror in the line.

I called 911 but the kids saw me on my phone and took off. I don't know if they were caught.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I once had someone destroy the door lock on my 1985 corolla and all they stole was my loving house keys.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Slavvy posted:

I once had someone destroy the door lock on my 1985 corolla and all they stole was my loving house keys.

Well, to be fair, there's probably a way better chance for valuables in the house.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Yeah but it was parked in the middle of the woods at the time :shrug:

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Easiest way to break a windshield is from the inside, with your fist, while driving. Ask me how I know how!

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Foreheads and airbags work pretty well too!

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
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PaintVagrant posted:

Easiest way to break a windshield is from the inside, with your fist, while driving. Ask me how I know how!

My best friend spiderwebbed the passenger side of the windshield in my Celica when he backhanded a fly that had landed on it.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I cracked my dad's windshield with my forehead when I was like eight. He rear ended someone, I was in the front without a seat belt. Didn't feel a thing, didn't even get a bruise, but the windshield cracked right down the middle. He ended up driving it for like another decade with the huge crack in it. Too be fair, it was a late-70's/early-80's Malibu, so I don't know how strong its glass was...

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

literally a fish posted:

One of my friends had his 2001 Legacy sedan broken into, the thieves must have had the same general idea, they smashed the little window next to the C pillar instead of one of the main door windows (which, i should add, are frameless on that generation of Legacy, thus making it incredibly easy to break in with a wooden wedge and a coathanger, but whatever)



$750. And that was the price at a local glass specialist who are renowned for their cheapness. It would have been $250 for a door window.

They didn't even take any of the valuables! all they took was a 2-port USB cigarette lighter adapter, a microUSB cable, and an unopened pack of mints.
They left behind the $350 headunit and $200 oldish android smartphone (his old phone, kept in glovebox for "oh poo poo i need to call emergency services" type situations).

what the poo poo?!

Meth

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
It's about pointless destruction when you're on meth, I had a roommate start dating a girl on meth and she once slit the sidewall of one tire on each car on our block parked on the street. Then came inside giggling about it.

This is the same chick whose parents bought her a brand new honda accord and she came over to show it to us, but the whole center console had already been disassembled by her in typical tweaker moment of "gotta fix that sound that I'm hearing that's totally not a hallucination."


He's lived with her now for a decade, and on the rare occasions I see him he's clearly high as gently caress on something a lot stronger than the weed we used to smoke together. Don't do hard drugs kids.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Uthor posted:

I cracked my dad's windshield with my forehead when I was like eight. He rear ended someone, I was in the front without a seat belt. Didn't feel a thing, didn't even get a bruise, but the windshield cracked right down the middle. He ended up driving it for like another decade with the huge crack in it. Too be fair, it was a late-70's/early-80's Malibu, so I don't know how strong its glass was...

My little brother kept wiggling out of his seatbelt back in the day in my mom's Mercury minivan. I brake checked him, he smacked the glass and it cracked all the way across from right to left. He wasn't hurt, either.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh
Things I've learned that are really good at cracking windshields: Wiper arms. $20 wiper change turned into a $400 windshield replacement.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I've cracked a windshield with my defroster. :colbert:

I don't warm up the car with full heat anymore.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Crustashio posted:

Things I've learned that are really good at cracking windshields: Wiper arms. $20 wiper change turned into a $400 windshield replacement.

Left the wiper arm, huh?

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

PainterofCrap posted:

Interrupted in the act.

Or dumb kids.

My vote is interrupted. I had that same window broken on my car and they barely took anything. I swept up the glass, custom fitted a piece of plexiglass, and siliconed it in place. A week later I came out to an empty parking spot and shards of plexiglass on the pavement because they broke the same window again to take the whole car.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

This is the same chick whose parents bought her a brand new honda accord and she came over to show it to us, but the whole center console had already been disassembled by her in typical tweaker moment of "gotta fix that sound that I'm hearing that's totally not a hallucination."

:cripes:

I fully admit to having a meth habit a long time ago, but I think the worst I ever did was rip the mostly non-functional climate control out of my Integra and attempt to resolder the switches. (very common issue on 2G Integras is the switches break their solder joints)

Most of them even worked afterwards!

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Pft, they left all that copper wire though

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Splizwarf posted:

Windscreens are tough as gently caress (although only from the outside) but most of them are just held on with a wad of adhesive butyl rubber all around the edge, aka the always-sticky flavor of weatherstripping. If you have a screwdriver or just manly fingers it's not hard to pop off the trim on one side, jam your way through the sticky poo poo, and lever the windscreen right up. All of that usually also applies to fixed-position windows (as long as they aren't mounted on a door) like the side trunk windows on hatches and wagons or van windows.

On the other hand, in my opinion the cheapest answer is usually to just lever open the top rear corner of a door until you can reach something, but whether or not you crack the window in the process is a coin flip (still better than smashing it out though). Bending the doorframe back into place yourself afterwards is a lot cheaper than auto glass and a zillion hours of vacuuming. :v:

Most cars since the early 80s at least (maybe even into the 70s) have had urethane bonded glass. Butyl is more of a 70s/60s and down "the FMVSS doesn't exist yet, what are crash safety standards?" Thing.

If I know how easy to find a glass panel is at the yard and how easy to replace it is, I will just break it... or in the case of XJ rear quarter windows (which are just gasketed in place, no butyl at all) I'll cut the rubber gasket around it and pop it out, then break one at the JY and pull the gasket in 30 seconds for 5 bucks instead.

Protip, if you need to pop a window non messily, gently toss a piece of broken porcelain or ceramic at it, it will spiderweb everywhere but not explode. Then poke out just a tiny area that will be easy to clean up, hit the lock with a coathangar, gently open the door and shake the glass out while it's open so you can just sweep it up off the ground instead of finding it all over your interior for the next decade.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
I'm prepared to accept that it's a different substance on a new car, but the stay-soft weatherstrip is what Safelite and similar use. No matter what the OEM stuff is made from, though, it's usually cake to jam fingers into and lever up. Source: worked in a salvage yard and hated broken glass but also hated dashboards (aka the most fragile and impossible to ship part of a car ugh).

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
I also call bullshit on that claim, in early 2000 I worked in a windshield shop and I specifically remember ever windshield being a bitch to remove that took at least an hour with a special windshield knife. Every windshield would break, there was no faster/easier option, a modern windshield is simply a pain in the rear end to remove.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



kastein posted:


Protip, if you need to pop a window non messily, gently toss a piece of broken porcelain or ceramic at it, it will spiderweb everywhere but not explode. Then poke out just a tiny area that will be easy to clean up, hit the lock with a coathangar, gently open the door and shake the glass out while it's open so you can just sweep it up off the ground instead of finding it all over your interior for the next decade.

Spring loaded center punch is good for this too. The snap on one is nice but there's a good one on Amazon too.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Crotch Fruit posted:

I also call bullshit on that claim, in early 2000 I worked in a windshield shop and I specifically remember ever windshield being a bitch to remove that took at least an hour with a special windshield knife. Every windshield would break, there was no faster/easier option, a modern windshield is simply a pain in the rear end to remove.

Challenge accepted. :colbert:

Now to get my rear end to the PickNPull.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

QuarkMartial posted:

Left the wiper arm, huh?

Let go of it while changing a blade. Thought it would be OK, but the next day the impact point was spiderwebbed over the whole windshield.

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I've had three chips on the passenger side for a while, but today I caught a rock that gave me a nice 6" crack that arcs right where the edge of the passenger side wiper sweeps. It took me a moment to decide it wasn't just some weird streak. :sigh:

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