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Northrop changed from flathead screws to philips and is now charging us billions for the same plane we already own. http://www.defensenews.com/story/breaking-news/2016/02/26/b-21-bomber-air-force-lrsb/80976160/ E: Maybe it's missing the decimal, it's actually the B-2.1 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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I trust a computer more than the average pilot.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:38
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I trust a computer more than the average pilot. I think it's fair to say that given the thousands upon thousands of successful total non-event takeoffs completed on 320s daily, and the probably dozens or even hundreds of "ATC we need a minute to work out a computer problem here" completely reasonable and prudent delays taken by pilots, that this guy was decidedly not average.
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Feb 26, 2016 22:31
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A computer is only as good as its operator.
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Feb 26, 2016 22:44
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Colonial Air Force posted:Northrop changed from flathead screws to philips and is now charging us billions for the same plane we already own. quote:While there are no existing prototypes of the aircraft, the artist rendering unveiled Feb. 26 is based on the initial design concept lol it's a render based on concept art. There's a Greenlight/early-access joke in here but I'm not nearly clever enough to make it. edit: There's a poll and "The Obama-er" and "John Cena" are choices but neither is anywhere close to winning. Denzine fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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Feb 27, 2016 00:36
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Yeah, the initial design concept is "It's a B-2, but we get charge for it all over again!"
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Feb 27, 2016 01:57
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I trust a computer more than the average pilot. Well, there are goofballs anywhere. But a commercial pilot at an airline isn't really average.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Yeah, the initial design concept is "It's a B-2, but we get charge for it all over again!" An embiggened Spirit, as it were.
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Feb 27, 2016 03:36
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Shove the throttles to toga and go flying if you're going to ignore what it's telling you to do (retard)
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Remember that talk earlier about that poor Ex-NASA engineer that takes Challenger personally? While he isn't totally out of his funk it seems like he had some helpful words lately. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...racle-happened/ quote:Ebeling spoke to NPR for the 30th anniversary of the Challenger explosion last month. Remarkably, he had spoken anonymously to the same reporter three weeks after the explosion, but now he was ready to speak publicly. He sadly recalled the day and described his three decades of guilt.
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Feb 27, 2016 03:52
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slidebite posted:Remember that talk earlier about that poor Ex-NASA engineer that takes Challenger personally? While he isn't totally out of his funk it seems like he had some helpful words lately. Dawwwww  Good for him!
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slidebite posted:Remember that talk earlier about that poor Ex-NASA engineer that takes Challenger personally? While he isn't totally out of his funk it seems like he had some helpful words lately. Thank god, because that original story was loving depressing. I can't imagine having that over my head for 30 years and trying to shoulder all the blame.
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Feb 27, 2016 05:32
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That's really quite awesome that he's finally realizing that he actually did the right thing and that it was the people above him not listening that was the 'wrong', and not him.
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Feb 27, 2016 07:55
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slidebite posted:Remember that talk earlier about that poor Ex-NASA engineer that takes Challenger personally? While he isn't totally out of his funk it seems like he had some helpful words lately.  The first article was a huge downer, I'm glad he's found some peace.
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Feb 27, 2016 17:09
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Tsuru posted:Beating the skydivers to the ground is pretty awesome as well. Here is a Do-28 doing roughly the same: View from outside the plane. Looks like the pilot does this a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1NEOwDwapk
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Feb 28, 2016 02:29
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Linedance posted:Pilot says go - no wait stop no too late go go go drat gently caress stop I mean stop gently caress, computer says retard. I know the feeling though. You used to know how to do all of these things yourself, but then instead of making your own decisions, you start getting told what to do and when to do it 99.9% of the time, so you stop thinking for yourself and just start following the instructions, and then that one time the system breaks down you're totally lost. Of course I'm not a pilot, just a married man  Seriously though: Alereon posted:the captain's side stick was pushed forward (nose down) and back (nose up) two times reaching 16 degrees nose up and 16 degrees nose down maximum inputs, the aircraft's pitch and vertical acceleration followed the pitch inputs. In response to the next nose down input, as vertical acceleration reduced, the thrust levers were reduced why would you pitch up and down like that? Total indecision?
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Feb 28, 2016 02:36
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Boomerjinks posted:View from outside the plane. Looks like the pilot does this a lot. Signs that you'r an airplane nerd: Watching this video you want it to pan back to the Fokker Trimoter that's just idling in the foreground.
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Ardeem posted:Signs that you'r an airplane nerd: Watching this video you want it to pan back to the Fokker Trimoter that's just idling in the foreground. Sign you're a real airplane nerd: Knowing the difference between a Fokker Trimotor and a Ju-52.
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Feb 28, 2016 03:05
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Sign you're a real airplane nerd: Knowing the difference between a Fokker Trimotor and a Ju-52. *Goes back, checks the low wings, hangs up his nerd cred in shame*
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Feb 28, 2016 03:19
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Buttcoin purse posted:why would you pitch up and down like that? Total indecision? quote:Pilot-induced oscillations are sustained or uncontrollable oscillations resulting from efforts of the pilot to control the aircraft and occurs when the pilot of an aircraft inadvertently commands an often increasing series of corrections in opposite directions, each an attempt to cover the aircraft's reaction to the previous input with an overcorrection in the opposite direction. An aircraft in such a condition can appear to be "porpoising" switching between upward and downward directions. As such it is a coupling of the frequency of the pilot's inputs and the aircraft's own frequency.
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Feb 28, 2016 04:40
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Alereon posted:I'm assuming the same thing as pilot-induced oscillation: Oh of course, thanks, that makes sense.
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Feb 28, 2016 08:39
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Boomerjinks posted:View from outside the plane. Looks like the pilot does this a lot. Jumpplane and towplane pilots probably have a tendency to remove any unneeded meters from the landing pattern.
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Feb 28, 2016 17:25
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Boomerjinks posted:View from outside the plane. Looks like the pilot does this a lot. That's smooth as hell
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Feb 28, 2016 17:28
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Boomerjinks posted:View from outside the plane. Looks like the pilot does this a lot.
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Feb 28, 2016 18:36
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Pretty sure that's just an optical effect from frame rate of the video.
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Feb 28, 2016 18:45
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So it's NOT breaking the sound barrier: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-wildly-misunderstood-aeronautics-event-captured-in-this-photograph
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holocaust bloopers posted:That's smooth as hell Some (some) of that's the aircraft. That's a Do 28. It's one of those planes specially designed to land on unimproved postage stamps and fly backwards if there's a strong enough headwind.
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Colonial Air Force posted:So it's NOT breaking the sound barrier: Alereon fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Feb 28, 2016 |
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Feb 28, 2016 21:48
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You can get the vapor at far below the sound barrier if it's humid enough. Probably not in a cone or during level flight, though.
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Feb 29, 2016 02:26
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Godholio posted:You can get the vapor at far below the sound barrier if it's humid enough. Probably not in a cone or during level flight, though. This. If the aircraft is at or above the critical mach number for any surface (which can be as low as Mach 0.7), you could technically have this phenomenon occur.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Sign you're a real airplane nerd: Knowing the difference between a Fokker Trimotor and a Ju-52. Gotta love those wanky outwards-angled engines.
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Saw this today...I really need to start on the road down my PPL  http://imgur.com/gallery/0ck7l McDeth fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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MrChips posted:This. If the aircraft is at or above the critical mach number for any surface (which can be as low as Mach 0.7), you could technically have this phenomenon occur. It doesn't even need to be above the critical Mach number for any surface. The pressure just needs to be low enough to drop the temperature below the dewpoint, which is likelier to happen at high lift coefficients, i.e., low speeds. Which is why you'll see it happen to airliners on approach in humid days. Either as a cloud attached to the upper surface of the wing in the low pressure area, or in a persistent streak in the wake vortices off the wing tips, flap tips, etc. https://youtu.be/dBjTnS-X8ik vessbot fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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Feb 29, 2016 03:25
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vessbot posted:It doesn't even need to be above the critical Mach number for any surface. The pressure just needs to be low enough to drop the temperature below the dewpoint, which is likelier to happen at high lift coefficients, i.e., low speeds. Which is why you'll see it happen to airliners on approach in humid days. Either as a cloud attached to the upper surface of the wing in the low pressure area, or in a persistent streak in the wake vortices off the wing tips, flap tips, etc.
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The coolest part of watching the Blue Angels practice in Pensacola, FL was the insane humidity making for great vapor effects. We were standing off the the right of show center and after each solo pass they'd bank and pull hard and the whole wing would just about turn white. Fluid dynamics are insane.
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Alereon posted:We are specifically talking about the vapor cones that form during transonic flight though. The pressure differences are being formed by shockwaves rather than flow effects, which is why they look so well-defined. You're right about the distinction, I thought the discussion was moving toward a generic catch all of low pressure condensation (and I still think that may have been happening before my post, depending on what exactly godholio meant in his post). I will, however, pedantically note that what is popularly referred to as "vapor" is not vapor (invisible gas state of water, that is around us all the time everywhere) but rather condensation, tiny droplets of liquid water produced by cooling the vapor to its dewpoint, same as a cloud. vessbot fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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I also did not realize we were speaking strictly of cones.
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Eric 'Winkle' Brown passed away recently, 97 years old. (He's Captain Eric Melrose Brown CBE, DSC, AFC, KCVSA, PhD Hon FRAeS, RN to you and me) He was known has Britain's greatest pilot. His achievements and experiences boggle the mind:
Set aside an hour to watch this doc where he tells his own story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEe5ul37Q7g Or on the BBC iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b045pbq2/britains-greatest-pilot-the-extraordinary-story-of-captain-winkle-brown Ola fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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Feb 29, 2016 10:44
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I saw the news, didn't know there was a documentary - will certainly have a watch
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Anyone ever been to Pima? I'm going to be in Tucson for vacation and I was planning to set aside a day for it.
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