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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:What makes the Sessions endorsement so important? Is he a huge deal to the far right? Yeah, he's emblematic of Real Conservatism. Like a Ted Cruz who isn't (as) hated by his colleagues.
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Just a heads up: a little bird told me that Dr. Ben Carson will be making a guest appearance in tonight's Fourth Annual On Cinema At The Cinema Oscars Special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydm7Z_I_8qE
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:What makes the Sessions endorsement so important? Is he a huge deal to the far right? He is a top-5 Senator on just about every conservative site that scores them on their votes and positions, he's by far the #1 Senator on immigration, he's a multi-term guy who is well liked by his colleagues on both sides of the aisle, and Cruz namedrops him in almost every speech "standing side by side with Sessions" to beat the Gang of 8 bill. Basically this endorsement is a fatal blow to whatever is left of the Cruz campaign and a major signal to other conservatives in Washington and in state governors offices that if Sessions believes Trump is a conservative who can be trusted, so can you. Very similar to how Christie was a signal to moderate GOP types.
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Kurt_Cobain posted:This one been posted yet? I could watch it all day Quoting again just because. Powercrazy posted:That's my prediction. Trump creates the new GOP, but they look nothing like the existing one. Racism, religion, free-trade, zero/low taxes. No longer a thing. What do they become? ...I honestly don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being even grosser than the current GOP. Hopefully it'll get less votes and act as an excellent distraction until redistricting in 2020.
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Prof. Lurker posted:Marcos had some big rallies in Virginia over the weekend (~9000) and is getting some heavy media attention at the expense of Cruz. Plus there's a lack of polls since the debate where all hell broke loose. According to google he's trending heavily in Virginia as well. Maybe he'll pull it out, we won't know until Tuesday night!
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uncurable mlady posted:The reports out of SC seem to indicate that he had a ridiculously effective campaign there, so who knows. I'd honestly be willing to believe that people didn't take it seriously enough to really put in the time and see what was going on, or that the anecdotes about how much of a mess it was were leaked by Trump staff itself. I mean, Trump isn't exactly holding conference calls with his donors to talk up how great his organization and internals are, so how would we know what sort of organization was there? Now that's something interesting to think about. Trump is a shrewd businessman and, no matter how much you think the market would have outperformed his 1999 inheritance or whatever, you don't get to become that rich without knowing how to screw people on deals. Feigning incompetence and disarray gets competitors to not take you seriously ...
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Come Wednesday I expect to be posting some of my old quotes and  ing pretty hard.It's been tough being a guy predicting Trump since August and getting called a naive fool who is getting suckered by a flavor of a month for the past eight months, I deserve a day of gloating. Also, yes, Hillary Clinton had better be taking this threat deadly seriously. This race is totally winnable for the Democrats, but only if they go negative hard and constantly from now until November.
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In my state/region, it always comes down to "who has the (R) after their name?" Nothing is going to touch Donald Trump in the Mountain West - good thing we don't have many electoral votes.
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Joementum posted:It was pointed out to me after I posted the article about Trump's SC ground game that the source for that report was a single Trump staffer who, ya know, might have reason to exaggerate. I hadn't noticed that, hrm. Well, gently caress it, who knows. Maybe Donald just proves that you can be a loud obnoxious rear end in a top hat and go far in politics.
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God, Rubio on some show this morning. What an assmunch. He was going on and on how Trump isn't a Republican, and he has tricked everyone, etc. The interviewer asked him since he isn't a Republican, does that mean he wont keep his pledge to vote for him when he wins the nomination? HE WONT BE NOMINATED. But will you? Because if he isn't a conservative, why would.. HE WONT BE NOMINATED. loving lohl. These interviewers better be replaying these HE ISNT A REPUBLICAN when Trump wins the nomination when Rubio is backing him looking like an insufferable rear end.
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:trump's unfavorables were sky high within the GOP when he announced and he reversed them in the span of like two months, also his disapproval rate with the general public is barely higher than hillary's His favorables with the electorate as a whole haven't improved and may have gone backwards though which is a concerning sign - he started with terrible favorable and has made them even worse to secure the GOP primary electorate. Walking it back is going to be very hard. Of course if Trump is the nominee all things are unknown, but not exactly plausible.
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Can't believe how much I want to see Trump win the primary, despite that fact that he's a demagogue and fascist. I like seeing the loathsome Republican establishment lose more than seeing one monster lose. Rubio is especially unlikable... never been this pumped for a Super Tuesday....
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CubsWoo posted:He is a top-5 Senator on just about every conservative site that scores them on their votes and positions, he's by far the #1 Senator on immigration, he's a multi-term guy who is well liked by his colleagues on both sides of the aisle, and Cruz namedrops him in almost every speech "standing side by side with Sessions" to beat the Gang of 8 bill. They create a fantastic range of endorsements, don't they? Very conservative senator from Alabama and moderate governor of New Jersey.
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Philthy posted:God, Rubio on some show this morning. What an assmunch. He was going on and on how Trump isn't a Republican, and he has tricked everyone, etc. The interviewer asked him since he isn't a Republican, does that mean he wont keep his pledge to vote for him when he wins the nomination? HE WONT BE NOMINATED. But will you? Because if he isn't a conservative, why would.. HE WONT BE NOMINATED. One thing I do like is that public perception has swung on Rubio ever since his programmers decided Rubio needed to go after Trump. Before Trump, he was your generic empty suit politician with the added benefit of being young and idealistic. Now he comes off as a nasty, petulant, whiny person. Trump's counterattacks aren't helping much either!
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personally I think America needs to go in the path of incremental regressive accelerationism
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So, since the rules changes to bind more delegates after the Ron Paul shenanigans last cycle, does anyone have a count of how many unbound delegates are still in existence?
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Patter Song posted:Come Wednesday I expect to be posting some of my old quotes and You've been consistent, Iowa shook my resolve in a bright golden future. But, as this cycle has proven, anything can happen. For all we know Rubio wins Virginia, and Minnesota, Cruz takes Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansa, or Trump gets assassinated. Anything can happen!
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Maoist Pussy posted:WALL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUJzj4DXHYE
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H5N1 posted:Okay, bitches, you can't say I haven't warned you or that the candidate hasn't either -- any injuries you sustain on Super Tuesday will be your own drat fault if you haven't buckled up...for Kasich! I am not excited for this redux! campaign!
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:What makes the Sessions endorsement so important? Is he a huge deal to the far right? it's not a dealbreaker/maker but it is one more nail in the coffin for Rubio. same for Christie
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:What makes the Sessions endorsement so important? Is he a huge deal to the far right? Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This video should be looped in this thread
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CubsWoo posted:He is a top-5 Senator on just about every conservative site that scores them on their votes and positions, he's by far the #1 Senator on immigration, he's a multi-term guy who is well liked by his colleagues on both sides of the aisle, and Cruz namedrops him in almost every speech "standing side by side with Sessions" to beat the Gang of 8 bill. So it neuters any argument about his conservativeness? drat that eradicates a major Rubio attack line too.
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Patter Song posted:Also, yes, Hillary Clinton had better be taking this threat deadly seriously. This race is totally winnable for the Democrats, but only if they go negative hard and constantly from now until November. this is not a good idea. races that are heavily negative on both sides depress turnout. she needs to have a strong, consistent positive message of how she will bring jobs back and create economic recovery. one thing this primary has showed us is that there are a lot of people who are looking for an excuse not to vote for trump. over and over you see people saying "well, i don't agree with his comments about [insert topic] but he's the only one who can get us out of this." there's the core base that eats up all the poo poo he says about The Mexicans but that's, like, 25-30% of the republican party. as his "ceiling" climbs, we see a lot of people shrugging and saying "well, i don't like what he says about muslims, but i think he can bring back jobs." people who actually want to hear about how mexicans are ruining this country have been on the trump train from the start and the recent increases in support he's been getting reflect more "moderate" republicans jumping on, largely for economic reasons. i mean, look at cruz and rubio. they so transparently don't have the answers and can't get us out of this that the only people supporting them are the ones who are really, truly too disgusted with trump to vote for him. i mean, at this point it's not like anyone hasn't heard of him or heard what he's saying. it's not like people who were super offended about the muslim ban when he floated it aren't offended now, they just see that there's no alternative to trump in their party. negativity against trump will be targeted, narrow, and focused on driving/depressing turnout in key demographic areas. it will also largely come through proxies. hillary's "negativity" is likely to be straightforward questioning of trump's competence and honesty; there's ample evidence of his lack of both, and plenty of great material for the general. it's great she's doing oppo research but if she's not focus grouping ads in ohio and pennsylvania now (i suspect she is, quietly, or will be soon) then she should be.
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Powercrazy posted:That's my prediction. Trump creates the new GOP, but they look nothing like the existing one. Racism, religion, free-trade, zero/low taxes. No longer a thing. What do they become? I don't think the ideological space for a right-wing populist party is nearly as small as you think, I think a party which supports welfare entitlements and protectionism while being generally nativist might be even more competitive than the current movement conservatism-based party. Thing is the donors and the ideologues who run the GOP won't be willing to turn it into such a party
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This is the Best Thread. All my other subscribed threads are starting to grow weeds.
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Not sure if Huffpost Pollster is a good source, but since it combines a bunch of polls and updates regularly I assume it's decent: According to an update 3 hours ago, Trump has gone from 37% to 40% nationally!!! This might suggest the debate didn't have much of an impact, or if anything, a positive one for Trump. Cruz is at 19.3% and Rubio is behind at 17.5%. Carson/Kasich are neck and neck at 8%...
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:one thing this primary has showed us is that there are a lot of people who are looking for an excuse not to vote for trump. over and over you see people saying "well, i don't agree with his comments about [insert topic] but he's the only one who can get us out of this." there's the core base that eats up all the poo poo he says about The Mexicans but that's, like, 25-30% of the republican party. as his "ceiling" climbs, we see a lot of people shrugging and saying "well, i don't like what he says about muslims, but i think he can bring back jobs." people who actually want to hear about how mexicans are ruining this country have been on the trump train from the start and the recent increases in support he's been getting reflect more "moderate" republicans jumping on, largely for economic reasons. There is one very major thing that Hillary can't possibly position herself as superior to Trump on, though -- coming into the government as an outsider specifically to scour corruption and backroom networking and the establishment clean from the marble walls. The Clintons are the establishment. Look how thoroughly Trump destroyed and humiliated the Bush family. Jeb barely put up any resistance, and W and HW didn't even try to touch him.
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Brannock posted:There is one very major thing that Hillary can't possibly position herself as superior to Trump on, though -- coming into the government as an outsider specifically to scour corruption and backroom networking and the establishment clean from the marble walls. The Clintons are the establishment. I fully expect Trump to go full Occupy Wallstreet during the GE and everyone will be inexplicably amazed when a decent chunk of Sanders supporters cross over to Trump.
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Yeah it's Kristol but confirming what people have been suggesting https://www.twitter.com/BillKristol/status/704119893269082114
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Mister Fister posted:I fully expect Trump to go full Occupy Wallstreet during the GE and everyone will be inexplicably amazed when a decent chunk of Sanders supporters cross over to Trump. Few people will be surprised by white racists crossing over to Trump.
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fishmech posted:Few people will be surprised by white racists crossing over to Trump. I don't think Bill and Hillary will endorse Trump that's absurd
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Brannock posted:There is one very major thing that Hillary can't possibly position herself as superior to Trump on, though -- coming into the government as an outsider specifically to scour corruption and backroom networking and the establishment clean from the marble walls. The Clintons are the establishment.
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Zohar posted:Yeah it's Kristol but confirming what people have been suggesting I'm going to be busy Thursday and won't be able to watch. Glad to know I won't miss anything at the debate if it's just Rubio, Cruz, Carson, and Kasich arguing over who is the biggest loser.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:I don't think Trump is a white supremacist I think many ethnic minorities harbor sexist and homophobic attitudes. Do you think that minority voters should therefore be made pariahs and their concerns ignored? I don't think so. 
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Brannock posted:One thing I do like is that public perception has swung on Rubio ever since his programmers decided Rubio needed to go after Trump. Before Trump, he was your generic empty suit politician with the added benefit of being young and idealistic. Now he comes off as a nasty, petulant, whiny person. Trump's counterattacks aren't helping much either! Not sure how Trump couldn't win it at this point. Screaming that everyones been tricked only pisses off those same supporters who have no reason to back you even if he gets caught owning 5,000 abortion clinics worldwide.
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Philthy posted:Not sure how Trump couldn't win it at this point. Screaming that everyones been tricked only pisses off those same supporters who have no reason to back you even if he gets caught owning 5,000 abortion clinics worldwide. in that situation trump supporters wouldn't defect, they'd just be less likely to vote. campaigning is arguably more about depressing the other guy's turnout than turning them into your supporters
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