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Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

Craptacular posted:

"Racial discrimination?"

Clarkson is white, Tymon is white. Where could race even enter into this? Or are the Irish considered to be a different race in the UK, like circa mid-19th century USA?


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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Craptacular posted:

"Racial discrimination?"

Clarkson is white, Tymon is white. Where could race even enter into this? Or are the Irish considered to be a different race in the UK, like circa mid-19th century USA?

The legal term obviously includes creed, nationality etc.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Having read the book by the Sniff Petrol guy, their script editor, it mostly seems like a miracle that it took 13 years for that iteration of Top Gear to implode. Head-stuck-in-rear end management by the BBC, badly managed PR, all this weird stuff about working conditions basically being "do first, ask permissions later, apologise if necessary" and who-gives-a-poo poo-attitude combined with confrontations back-and-forth between the Top Gear production and BBC. Realistically, the punching event was the first major internal event, which broke the production team hegemony and opened doors for all sorts of poo poo.

All things concerned, for most of the time it was a weird juggling show of flaming chainsaws with 50M+ pound IPR as a bet.

Edit: Interestingly, the book also hinted that off-camera May and Hammond had much more friendly relationship than with Clarkson, who more or less remained their "sort-of-a-boss" most of the time.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Feb 28, 2016

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Der Kyhe posted:

Edit: Interestingly, the book also hinted that off-camera May and Hammond had much more friendly relationship than with Clarkson, who more or less remained their "sort-of-a-boss" most of the time.

Huh, that's interesting.

I always assumed that Hammond was the third wheel - they are often referring to him as 'Mr Angry' and mentioning his bad moods.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

spog posted:

Huh, that's interesting.

I always assumed that Hammond was the third wheel - they are often referring to him as 'Mr Angry' and mentioning his bad moods.

Any two of them always have good chemistry and they complain about the odd man out. If its all three of them then they arbitrarily pick one to make fun of.

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

Cat Hatter posted:

Any two of them always have good chemistry and they complain about the odd man out. If its all three of them then they arbitrarily pick one to make fun of.

Which is the reason the show was so good; three very good presenters with phenomenal chemistry in any configuration.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Evans top gear has been delayed 2 weeks, its episode count cut from 8 to 6 and the executive producer has quit citing his 'tyrannical behaviour' for the reason.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/12175789/Top-Gear-producer-quit-show-over-Chris-Evans-tyrannical-behaviour-sources-claim.html

Car crash tele.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


serious gaylord posted:

Evans top gear has been delayed 2 weeks, its episode count cut from 8 to 6 and the executive producer has quit citing his 'tyrannical behaviour' for the reason.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/12175789/Top-Gear-producer-quit-show-over-Chris-Evans-tyrannical-behaviour-sources-claim.html

Car crash tele.

It's failed before it begun!

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
It might just be the angle, but id say Clarkson has been hitting the gym.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
The collapse of New Top Gear will be much more entertaining than the show itself.

Foxtrot_13
Oct 31, 2013
Ask me about my love of genocide denial!

Der Kyhe posted:

Having read the book by the Sniff Petrol guy, their script editor, it mostly seems like a miracle that it took 13 years for that iteration of Top Gear to implode. Head-stuck-in-rear end management by the BBC, badly managed PR, all this weird stuff about working conditions basically being "do first, ask permissions later, apologise if necessary" and who-gives-a-poo poo-attitude combined with confrontations back-and-forth between the Top Gear production and BBC. Realistically, the punching event was the first major internal event, which broke the production team hegemony and opened doors for all sorts of poo poo.

All things concerned, for most of the time it was a weird juggling show of flaming chainsaws with 50M+ pound IPR as a bet.

Edit: Interestingly, the book also hinted that off-camera May and Hammond had much more friendly relationship than with Clarkson, who more or less remained their "sort-of-a-boss" most of the time.

Apart from the bad PR it sounds like the tv industry in general.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I'll probably fast forward through everything that isn't Sabine and Harris blatting about in cars.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Preoptopus posted:

It might just be the angle, but id say Clarkson has been hitting the gym.


Boxing lessons perhaps?

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

serious gaylord posted:

Evans top gear has been delayed 2 weeks, its episode count cut from 8 to 6 and the executive producer has quit citing his 'tyrannical behaviour' for the reason.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/12175789/Top-Gear-producer-quit-show-over-Chris-Evans-tyrannical-behaviour-sources-claim.html

Car crash tele.

This is going to be a loving trainwreak


Preoptopus posted:

It might just be the angle, but id say Clarkson has been hitting the gym.


Did they give them boats for some reason?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

serious gaylord posted:

Evans top gear has been delayed 2 weeks, its episode count cut from 8 to 6 and the executive producer has quit citing his 'tyrannical behaviour' for the reason.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/12175789/Top-Gear-producer-quit-show-over-Chris-Evans-tyrannical-behaviour-sources-claim.html

Car crash tele.

"a source told The Sun." should be the red flag in that story.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

"a source told The Sun." should be the red flag in that story.
Jemma, 19, from Essex.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

"a source told The Sun." should be the red flag in that story.

Except, you know, a producer quit and the first season was cut short even before the first show hit the airwaves?

Not exactly a stellar merit even if the actual reason was overinflated.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

sbaldrick posted:

This is going to be a loving trainwreak
Shipwreck.

quote:

Did they give them boats for some reason?

Boats are cars.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Der Kyhe posted:

Except, you know, a producer quit and the first season was cut short even before the first show hit the airwaves?

Not exactly a stellar merit even if the actual reason was overinflated.

A senior script writer walked out the other week too. They are absolutely desperate to get this show out before the olympics as they wont put it on during, and then they'd be in direct competition with Clarksons amazon show.

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

serious gaylord posted:

A senior script writer walked out the other week too. They are absolutely desperate to get this show out before the olympics as they wont put it on during, and then they'd be in direct competition with Clarksons amazon show.

Yes, but was he punched first?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
He wasn't receiving the punches he was accustomed to under Clarkson.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Cojawfee posted:

He wasn't receiving the punches he was accustomed to under Clarkson.

And traditions must be upheld.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

meatpimp posted:

And traditions must be upheld.

BBC or Top Gear traditions?

Are they expected to abuse minors or just the production crew?

Tsuru
May 12, 2008

88h88 posted:

I'll probably fast forward through everything that isn't Sabine and Harris blatting about in cars.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:



:hfive:

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Also (I'm not going to summarize the entire book here since it can be bought dirt cheap, these are like 5% of the content) the Sniff Petrol guy seemed to especially hate two of their features more than anything else, the art gallery exhibit and the entirety of their India special, since the first one was absolutely out of their element and the India special went nowhere. As in, it did not have any sane narrative story behind it and it devolved just to a slapstick comedy special featuring the Top Gear hosts.

He also said that Top Gear of the Pops and the Top Ground Gear Force -charity specials were more or less vanity projects insisted by the trio based on unusually supportive BBC management, and they later actually tried to make the Top Gear band a thing.

In addition, they had two feature-lenght sets that were never aired, one dubbed "unfunny bus" which souped up a twodecker which can be later seen on several track sections, and "Top Gear gas station", which both were considered rubbish and not even ambitious.

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!
Poor, poor Stig.:saddowns:

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

88h88 posted:

I'll probably fast forward through everything that isn't Sabine and Harris blatting about in cars.
As an American I will also watch the Perry segments.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Mar 23, 2021

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

And Top Gear is already apologizing before an episode has even aired... gives some kind of validity to James May's theory that they are doing these various "newsworthy" things to keep interest up:

http://www.hellou.co.uk/2016/03/chris-evans-apologises-after-highly-disrespectful-top-gear-stunt-84203/

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
it's offensive because they are doing donuts on a road and the cenotaph happens to be in the background? Who cares? I'm sure whatever soldiers that memorializes would think that car is "wicked sick."

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
It's the really dumb poo poo that rags like the Sun always got mad at top gear about but now instead of laughing about it and telling them to gently caress themselves new top gear is like oh my god we're so sorry it won't happen again.


Basically, a pretty good sign that the new show is gonna suck.

hopterque fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Mar 15, 2016

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I kind of want Clarkson to load up a car with veterans and do a burnout around the Cenotaph while playing some Bolt Thrower or something.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

hopterque posted:

It's the really dumb poo poo that rags like the Sun always got mad at top gear about but now instead of laughing about it and telling them to gently caress themselves new top gear is like oh my god we're so sorry it won't happen again.


Basically, a pretty good sign that the new show is gonna suck.

To be honest, the moment I found out Chris Evans was on the show I knew it'd be a struggle for me to watch.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

MrOnBicycle posted:

To be honest, the moment I found out Chris Evans was on the show I knew it'd be a struggle for me to watch.

Oh yeah same but this is like mounting evidence that it's gonna be a trainwreck.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





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Well yeah but we're all gonna watch it anyway, right? I know I'll be watching both.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

pik_d posted:

Well yeah but we're all gonna watch it anyway, right? I know I'll be watching both.

I'll certainly check out the first episode or two but i would expect that to be the maximum I can stand.

HolyDukeNukem
Sep 10, 2008

pik_d posted:

Well yeah but we're all gonna watch it anyway, right? I know I'll be watching both.

If only to witness the trainwreck

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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

pik_d posted:

Well yeah but we're all gonna watch it anyway, right? I know I'll be watching both.

I'll watch the Amazon show but gently caress this TG iteration, will not waste my time. I'll enjoy reading about the trainwreck however.

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