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I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Stallion Cabana posted:

wasn't part of the reason Sasuke left also that he chased after Itachi, found him, and Itachi was like 'I'm not here for you, I'm here for Naruto.' which kind of hosed him up even more because even his brother that he had sworn revenge on was considering him a lesser threat then Naruto? Like I don't think Sasuke knew about the 9 Tails or anything at that point either and no one decided to tell him so he didn't think Itachi had some secondary reason for wanting to find Naruto. In this case the villains are specifically like 'yeah we don't care about Deku, we want Bakugou', which is basically the opposite.

To be fair, both Deku and Bakugou were designated targets, weren't they? Not quite as crushing, but I would imagine still not flattering to Bakugou.

Still, I agree that it's unlikely that he'll turn at this point, in this way.

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HellishWhiskers
Mar 29, 2012

She was an awkward girl
New PV for the anime is out and it's not just voices this time around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhqVltWDqFA

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Of course it's all first episode budget but hey wow, looks great!

Hopeford
Oct 15, 2010

Eh, why not?
I would be really disappointed if Bakugou turned heel / lost his powers because I find that his character is much more refreshing as an arrogant dude who is working hard to be number one than as some generically evil dude. And if he lost his powers...well, I guess I could live with Batgou so long as there wasn't too much downtime between his existential crisis and his Batgou rebirth.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?
Well... on Friday afternoon I read the first chapter of BnHA on pretty much a whim. 80 chapters later, here I am. :stare: Helluva series you got here, huh?

I am actually quite, quite excited to see this in anime format. That preview looks great.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
bakugou isn't a sasuke for the simple reason that he has no real reason in his backstory to be a dick, but still is.
He doesn't have that weakness in his character that sasuke had to push him over the edge, and he is clearly written that way.
just look at the all might fight.

bet on feel-goodsy shonen moment where he gets to hug it out with deku or something.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
He's a product of his environment. He was talented, smart, good at pretty much everything, and had a powerful quirk. Everyone treated him with respect and it got to his head.

Once he entered UA he realized he was actually a frog in a well, which irritated him even more.

Plus the one guy who didn't treat him as someone infallible - Deku trying to help Bakugou gave him an inferiority complex - became stronger, which completely flipped his perspective on the world. And the guy continued to grow stronger while Bakugou didn't really achieve much beyond a fake (in Bakugou's mind) victory at the tournament.

That's a pretty realistic backstory behind why someone would become a dick. Probably way more than "my brother killed my whole family and became a super criminal ninja."

I don't want Bak to lose his powers nor do I want him to become evil because we all know he'll be a hero in the end, the dude even had his own ORIGIN chapter.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
That's why I wonder if they'll get away with him.

Like typical foreshadowing cliches are all present for them successfully kidnapping them but nothing about his characterization really convinces me he could be convinced to become a criminal. I could totally see Shigaraki and co. misreading his surface attitude and actions as him being someone who feels "held back" by society or whatever, but what the hell can you do to get Bakugou out of the badguy's lair in one piece if they do take him?

Telling them to gently caress off (which he'd likely do) has an obvious result, unless AfO and Shigaraki are utterly convinced he can be turned and let him off with a standing offer.

I'm intrigued at least; hopefully it's going somewhere. :shrug:

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
I want him to lose his powers and go Punisher. Like "gently caress the bad guys who ruined me, gently caress UA, and gently caress DEKU THAT PIECE OF poo poo".

Come to think of it, we haven't seen a Punisher-type character, have we? Well, I suppose ideologically speaking, Stain is a model for one, but even he had a power. I just love anti-heroes -- edgy 90's be damned. :allears:

red plastic cup
Apr 25, 2012

Reach WITH IN To your LOCAL cup and you may find A Friend And Boy...
Worst result: Bakugou gets captured and turned into a Noumu

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
I think he's gonna blow that guy's marbles off up

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I'm still ok if either Bakugou loses his powers and continues being a hero through sheer "gently caress you" willpower or doesn't. I'm really hoping he doesn't get a heel turn though, he's much more interesting as a hero that's also an rear end in a top hat and needs to deal with that.

UchihaHirou
Mar 8, 2007

Active Skill:
Solves all problems.
All for One can both take powers and grant them. Can't the Villian Alliance just take Baron Explod-a-kill's powers and then use it as leverage to force him to join them?

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?
Possibly, but remember: we still don't actually know how All for One works at all; we've heard conjecture from All-Might but haven't actually seen it in action yet. Perhaps this is when we do, but like everyone else, I'm hoping the heel-turn is saved for somebody less clichéd.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Also, he may not get involved in the low level recruitment stuff in his current condition. Maybe they have some way to forcibly convert Bakugou, or maybe they think he is a natural villain (which he really kind of is) and could be convinced.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon
I think Bakugou really wants to be a hero. He wants to be All Might. He just thinks that being the Symbol of Peace means being the strongest and never losing.

He's right, too. Imagine if All Might looked like Deku at the end of his fights, arms shredded and passed-out on his feet. It wouldn't inspire any sort of confidence in the public, or deter any potential villains.

Where he's wrong is thinking that it's the only thing that matters.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Oh yeah, someone subbed the new PV.

Pretty much just dialog from the first chapter but nice to see the effort.

https://my.mixtape.moe/fclpuh.mp4

MrCinos
Dec 20, 2011
Unless some severe brainwashing happens Bakugou won't be swayed to the villain side even a bit. He hates being ordered by allies so imagine his reaction when he gets an offer to be a villain following their agenda.

If Bakugou actually gets abducted I hope he learns that his buddy from early childhood was forcefully turned into Noumu so that he would be even more rightfully pissed off at villain alliance.

MrCinos fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Feb 29, 2016

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
All Might's VA is so frickin perfect. I'm unreasonably hyped.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Vengarr posted:

I think Bakugou really wants to be a hero. He wants to be All Might. He just thinks that being the Symbol of Peace means being the strongest and never losing.

He's right, too. Imagine if All Might looked like Deku at the end of his fights, arms shredded and passed-out on his feet. It wouldn't inspire any sort of confidence in the public, or deter any potential villains.

Where he's wrong is thinking that it's the only thing that matters.

I don't think he really sees it as being a Symbol of Peace honestly. But yeah, he looks up to All Might because he basically sees him as invincible. He can take on 100 guys and still win without breaking a sweat, and he won't fall to even the strongest enemy. I feel like Bakugou wants to be a hero because he admires them for always winning, to him a hero is the strongest individual in the world.

And it's really interesting because due to all that he has some really heroic qualities that Deku admires, but at the same time none of those qualities translate into him being a good person. So while he looks like he could make a good hero he remains a really lovely dude and not a good person in the slightest.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Chapter is out on Kissmanga - http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Boku-no-Hero-Academia/Ch-080--The-Founding-of-the-Bakugou-Escort-Force?id=265857

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

I love that Uraraka is turning into a master of CQC, and that it also makes total sense given her power.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Uraraka being able to anti-grav anybody with just her hands has the potential for some amazing Norio Matsumoto-esque fight scenes but I'm pretty sure we'll never actually see anything like that in motion.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Eej posted:

Uraraka being able to anti-grav anybody with just her hands has the potential for some amazing Norio Matsumoto-esque fight scenes but I'm pretty sure we'll never actually see anything like that in motion.

Anti grav uppercut.
They rocket up into the atmosphere.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

I want to see an antigrav-ed Todoroki use his fire powers as a rocket to do some cool aerial moves. Or Bakugou.

Jintor
May 19, 2014

I checked a few panels, during the sports festival Ura maybe puts her fingers all on a table without it levitating, and she might hold the phone with all five fingertips touching but it's hard to tell from the art. Usually a finger blocked by her hand or something so can't be entirely certain.

Still hoping it's entirely consistent.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
Uraraka should start throwing real Heavy objects, like metal balls or something

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
Horikoshi should really start an Oda SBS question corner analogue. For example, when Uraraka floats an object, what determines the height at which it floats? Would it float off into space if she held on long enough?

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

DrSunshine posted:

Horikoshi should really start an Oda SBS question corner analogue. For example, when Uraraka floats an object, what determines the height at which it floats? Would it float off into space if she held on long enough?

From what we've seen so far, it looks like her power makes things float at their current height and either lose all momentum or have their momentum drastically reduced. They then act as if nothing else has gravitational forces, so the only thing affecting their velocity is whatever forces are put on them after becoming floated. The baseball she threw flew away into the aether, while the debris she floated during her Bakugou match kinda floated around at whatever height bakugou's explosions launched them to.

Specifics would be nice but honestly her power seems pretty straightforward. It just has physics weirdness and exactly how any given physics weirdness will play out is impossible to tell until it happens, since we don't have the math / Horikoshi's perception of the math.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

gnome7 posted:

From what we've seen so far, it looks like her power makes things float at their current height and either lose all momentum or have their momentum drastically reduced. They then act as if nothing else has gravitational forces, so the only thing affecting their velocity is whatever forces are put on them after becoming floated. The baseball she threw flew away into the aether, while the debris she floated during her Bakugou match kinda floated around at whatever height bakugou's explosions launched them to.

Specifics would be nice but honestly her power seems pretty straightforward. It just has physics weirdness and exactly how any given physics weirdness will play out is impossible to tell until it happens, since we don't have the math / Horikoshi's perception of the math.

Good point, although I don't really think Horikoshi thinks about the math, haha! It's probably just "Makes things float, whatever looks cool/is funny/is appropriate to the situation".

Although I do wonder if it's "cancel gravity" or "cancel mass"? Do things floated retain the same mass that they do before, and are just as hard to get moving, or are they apparently massless to her? This has some implications if it's one way or the other. For example, she could lift a 600 kg anvil and throw it like a baseball, but as soon as it leaves her contact, it'd regain all the mass and strike with the force of a 600 kg anvil moving as fast as a thrown baseball.

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 1, 2016

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Uraraka's power is obscenely overpowered if it operates on any real level with removing the effects of gravity or mass. Like, if she removes mass she could throw objects at relativistic speeds.

It's probably best not to think about it too hard. There's a panel gag in the SMASH 4-koma thing with text to the effect of: "If scientists investigated Uraraka's quirk, it would change the entire world forever...but instead..." and it shows all of the kids just goofing around with her floating something like "yay!".

E: There's also a gag where someone points out that Mineta's quirk is frighteningly deadly if he can hit someone in the face with one of his grape things and block their mouth/nose.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Mar 1, 2016

Jorenko
Jun 6, 2004

I think you're just mad 'cause you're single.

DrSunshine posted:

Good point, although I don't really think Horikoshi thinks about the math, haha! It's probably just "Makes things float, whatever looks cool/is funny/is appropriate to the situation".

Although I do wonder if it's "cancel gravity" or "cancel mass"? Do things floated retain the same mass that they do before, and are just as hard to get moving, or are they apparently massless to her? This has some implications if it's one way or the other. For example, she could lift a 600 kg anvil and throw it like a baseball, but as soon as it leaves her contact, it'd regain all the mass and strike with the force of a 600 kg anvil moving as fast as a thrown baseball.

If they lost ALL mass they'd necessarily travel at the speed of light at all times, so I'm going to go with mass with no gravitation. Though I guess we can't count on rigorous adherence to real physics here, so who knows.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
If she could make things apparently massless (or quite near it), this could happen.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

DrSunshine posted:

If she could make things apparently massless (or quite near it), this could happen.

Unless she can accelerate her arm to near light speed, i doubt everything about this

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
Also i was never good at physics so correct me if i'm wrong, but nearly no mass also means nearly no inertia and anything she throws would quickly decelerate due to aerial friction.

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

I thought she just made things not be affected by gravity while leaving the mass the same. Like if she touched a semi truck it wouldn't suddenly be as easy to move around as a feather, it could just gradually be pushed up.

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL
Magically reducing an object's mass doesn't have to have some corresponding increase in velocity -- you're magically reducing mass. It's magic, gently caress conservation of energy. On her own she couldn't throw anything faster than she can accelerate her arm. Now if she were firing massless bullets from a gun or something and changing their mass afterwards, then you might have something like relativistic baseball.

It still probably isn't mass though. She'd also have to be magicing way effects of air resistance and other minor forces like that, too.

Basically what HenryEx said.

Dr Subterfuge fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Mar 1, 2016

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
Actually, her power has nothing to do with gravity at all and is instead an instinctually handled, advanced form of selective flux pinning :ms:

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?
I wanna see her take a page from Fujitora's book and implement stuff like horizontal gravity.

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
100 chapters from now:

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