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feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

CloFan posted:

Anyone here use Cylance for AV?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyWTVN4XKa0

Note that Cylance turn off live lookups for their competitors for those tests. I.e. intentionally cripple them.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 01:14

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# ? May 27, 2024 23:04

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

feedmegin posted:

That seems a terrible idea if so because you have now told the company youre applying to the maximum they have to offer you.

If you absolutely have to tell someone like a recruiter how much you made at your last job, you never, ever tell them the truth.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:06

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

anthonypants posted:

If you absolutely have to tell someone like a recruiter how much you made at your last job, you never, ever tell them the truth.

What you made + 10k a year for each year at the job.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:10

Foe Hammer: Feb 6, 2016; Strategy is for people that don't have Swords! Play devilâs advocate even when you know youâre wrong because a blog where everyone agrees is boring!

ratbert90 posted:

Interviewed a guy today who said he could do web programming. I asked him what IDE he uses and he replied VMware.

The bane of my existence of owning a tech company has been hiring people. We could open a whole thread of dumb rear end answers to interview questions and resumes.
One of my favorite was someone listed on their resume skills they are "Highly proficient in the following" in and in their they listed html 5, java, C#, C++, Python and a myriad of other skills. As I started asking questions to see what they knew and I started talking about something I was trying to get working in Python and their faced turned white, so I started asking about their programming experience and he says, "Well I put those on my resume because I know they are programming languages". Apparently that is the new standard for "Highly proficient in the following" It also turns out when he listed that he was A+ Certified and Networking + Certified he not only knew that those were certifications but had planned to take a class for them in the near future.

anyone have a good animated character for banging their head against the wall? if so insert here. ^^

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:42

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

ratbert90 posted:

Interviewed a guy today who said he could do web programming. I asked him what IDE he uses and he replied VMware.

Because I'm a pedantic gently caress, I will point out that VMware does have at least one IDE in their portfolio:

https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-ide

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:46

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Foe Hammer posted:

anyone have a good animated character for banging their head against the wall? if so insert here. ^^

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:50

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Vulture Culture posted:

Because I'm a pedantic gently caress, I will point out that VMware does have at least one IDE in their portfolio:

https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-ide

When I asked him what program he uses to code he replied with Pspad

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:52

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

ratbert90 posted:

When I asked him what program he uses to code he replied with Pspad

I never claimed to be insightful, only pedantic.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:56

adorai: Nov 2, 2002; 10/27/04 Never forget; Grimey Drawer

ratbert90 posted:

When I asked him what program he uses to code he replied with Pspad

I always answer notepad as my ide of choice. It's never hurt me.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 02:58

Docjowles: Apr 9, 2009

adorai posted:

I always answer notepad as my ide of choice. It's never hurt me.

Next time I'm interviewing for a linux admin job, I want to try this line out just to see what happens.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 03:17

Methanar: Sep 26, 2013; by the sex ghost

I program in Microsoft Word.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 03:23

adorai: Nov 2, 2002; 10/27/04 Never forget; Grimey Drawer

Docjowles posted:

Next time I'm interviewing for a linux admin job, I want to try this line out just to see what happens.

In all seriousness, if it hurts, you didn't want to work there anyway.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 03:52

Internet Explorer: Jun 1, 2005

I always write my code out with pencil and draft paper before I type a single character!

# ? Feb 27, 2016 04:08

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Psh, IDEs are for nerds. I use an ISE.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 04:13

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Internet Explorer posted:

I always write my code out with pencil and draft paper before I type a single character!

Why automate like a fuckin' geek what you can just farm out to a bunch of Vietnamese kids by hand for pennies on the dollar?

# ? Feb 27, 2016 04:17

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Vulture Culture posted:

Why automate like a fuckin' geek what you can just farm out to a bunch of Vietnamese kids by hand for pennies on the dollar?

How are you supposed to provide white glove service if you're not actually touching everything?

# ? Feb 27, 2016 04:24

George H.W. Cunt: Oct 6, 2010

Vulture Culture posted:

Why automate like a fuckin' geek what you can just farm out to a bunch of Vietnamese kids by hand for pennies on the dollar?

That whole story owned

# ? Feb 27, 2016 04:25

YOLOsubmarine: Oct 19, 2004; When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

feedmegin posted:

That seems a terrible idea if so because you have now told the company youre applying to the maximum they have to offer you.

The intent is to weed out the billion calls and emails from recruiters that you would never take because they aren't going to offer anything in the ballpark of what you would want to change jobs. It's also not a commitment to accept that number. If they offer the minimum and you feel it's too low for the work you're not obligated to take it.

People always act like naming a number early locks you in, but money is only one piece of total compensation and nothing prevents you from saying "based on what I've heard about the position and the other benefits I feel that number Y is actually a more appropriate salary."

I open any conversation with a recruiter with a minimum acceptable salary required for me to even discuss he job. It's a starting point, not a final number, and it keeps me from going through two or three rounds of interviews with a company only to find out that they are cheap as hell and are offering half of what I currently make.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 04:30

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Foe Hammer posted:

The bane of my existence of owning a tech company has been hiring people.

Some days the thought of hiring is all that stops me from firing someone

# ? Feb 27, 2016 05:51

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

go3 posted:

Some days the thought of hiring is all that stops me from firing someone

Hiring is the worst.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 16:02

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

Inspector_666 posted:

Psh, IDEs are for nerds. I use an ISE.

The PTVS and RTVS systems are pretty interesting to work with:

# ? Feb 27, 2016 17:14

adorai: Nov 2, 2002; 10/27/04 Never forget; Grimey Drawer

go3 posted:

Some days the thought of hiring is all that stops me from firing someone

We posted a new helpdesk position on thursday. I am awaiting the flood of candidates from HR that all have great soft skills and english degrees, having never used a computer beyond opening word.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 18:35

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

adorai posted:

We posted a new helpdesk position on thursday. I am awaiting the flood of candidates from HR that all have great soft skills and english degrees, having never used a computer beyond opening word.

At my last job we literally just went to the local Apple store and asked who wanted a new job until we found someone

# ? Feb 27, 2016 18:39

GnarlyCharlie4u: Sep 23, 2007; I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

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AlternateAccount posted:

Right now I am leaning heavily toward switching to HP Elitebook 1020/1040s. Lighter, faster, cheaper, and better designed than their Lenovo counterparts we've been using. I don't think their dock is as nice, it requires you to slide the switch over to engage, but it costs a lot less. I'll probably wait for WiGig models to become a thing.

I used an SP3 for a long time and just recently switched to a 4. It's just too janky to give out for production use. I have constant issues with both machines undocking and re-docking and having it not come back from sleep. This has persisted across two machines and two docks and reinstalls. A lot of this might be Windows 10(for example, the MDP->DVI adapter that was plugged into the dock and worked fine for a long time is suddenly useless and required switching to HDMI instead. This happened on two separate machines for two different users.)
The SurfaceBook is heavy and goofy, I had high hopes but it's just a real letdown in person. And even at the top end model, the "discrete GPU" is just about worthless. If you want to get into teh "Surface" ecosystem, the SP4 is the better pick in every way.
Also, before you get excited about the Surface Pen, please go try an iPad Pro with a Pencil. It's not even comparable, Microsoft has a lot of work to do before the Surface is what it's advertised to be.

The problem for me primarily is that Windows is an absolutely terrible "touch" OS. They keep trying to shoehorn it, and it just doesn't work. Or at least it's always clear its shoehorned and never quite feels right.

A couple of my coworkers have had a problems with the keyboard too. I've never had the issue myself.

I can't really speak to the Microsoft vs Apple argument. The Pencil is much nicer, but we're a Windows only environment so iPads aren't even an option.

Vulture Culture posted:

At my last job we literally just went to the local Apple store and asked who wanted a new job until we found someone

I might steal this idea but sub Apple for BestBuy.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 19:30

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

AlternateAccount posted:

I used an SP3 for a long time and just recently switched to a 4. It's just too janky to give out for production use. I have constant issues with both machines undocking and re-docking and having it not come back from sleep. This has persisted across two machines and two docks and reinstalls. A lot of this might be Windows 10(for example, the MDP->DVI adapter that was plugged into the dock and worked fine for a long time is suddenly useless and required switching to HDMI instead. This happened on two separate machines for two different users.)
The SurfaceBook is heavy and goofy, I had high hopes but it's just a real letdown in person. And even at the top end model, the "discrete GPU" is just about worthless. If you want to get into teh "Surface" ecosystem, the SP4 is the better pick in every way.
Also, before you get excited about the Surface Pen, please go try an iPad Pro with a Pencil. It's not even comparable, Microsoft has a lot of work to do before the Surface is what it's advertised to be.

The problem for me primarily is that Windows is an absolutely terrible "touch" OS. They keep trying to shoehorn it, and it just doesn't work. Or at least it's always clear its shoehorned and never quite feels right.

I've heard there's a some sort of sleep issue that hasn't been addressed with the Surface Pro 4 which is disappointing.

The Pen is cool but I don't think it's really comparable to the Apple counter-part. I'm buying a Surface so I'm able to draw diagrams, annotate various items not to give out 1,000+ different pressure points to draw artwork.

Windows 10 is interesting, a huge improvement over Windows 8 but there's still a lot left do be desired especially with UI Elements.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 20:26

DigitalMocking: Jun 8, 2010; Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
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Tab8715 posted:

I've heard there's a some sort of sleep issue that hasn't been addressed with the Surface Pro 4 which is disappointing.

The Pen is cool but I don't think it's really comparable to the Apple counter-part. I'm buying a Surface so I'm able to draw diagrams, annotate various items not to give out 1,000+ different pressure points to draw artwork.

Windows 10 is interesting, a huge improvement over Windows 8 but there's still a lot left do be desired especially with UI Elements.

I've been one of our testers for the surface series (we rolled out 30 of them). The 3 was ok, had issues with the trackpad, keyboard and/or touchscreen becoming non-responsive from time to time, usually happened if you unclipped the keyboard part way. Also constant issues with the fans spinning and generating a lot of heat. Poor battery life when that was happening. Defo more stable on windows 8.1, stability issues got worse with windows 10.

Same issues with the SP4, heat/fan issues were far worse in that they happened almost constantly to more than 20% of our deployed surface 4s.

I've been on a surface book for two weeks now, and I have to say, they knocked it out of the park with this one. Screen is finally big enough to be a real daily driver, I haven't had a single usability issue other than at one point the OS couldn't turn the camera on to do facial recognition login. Keyboard/mouse have a good feel, docking/undocking works great. It does feel a touch too big to regularly use as a tablet, but from time to time it works just fine, especially with the pen, but truth be known, its a laptop now, and a damned good one.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 22:23

Foe Hammer: Feb 6, 2016; Strategy is for people that don't have Swords! Play devilâs advocate even when you know youâre wrong because a blog where everyone agrees is boring!

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

I might steal this idea but sub Apple for BestBuy.

Avoid the Apple & Best Buy in Tampa, FL we get PO'd people in daily where they messed something up

# ? Feb 27, 2016 22:47

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

MrMoo posted:

The PTVS and RTVS systems are pretty interesting to work with:

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:55

Proteus Jones: Feb 28, 2013

H110Hawk posted:

Hahahaha. I was thinking the same thing.

We have a guy at work who does all his work as root on a dev box, and it always makes my skin crawl. I mean, I get it's a dev box and all, but that's such a poo poo habit to get into.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 01:00

Bigass Moth: Mar 6, 2004; I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.

he knows...

But his password is C1sc0

# ? Feb 28, 2016 03:52

Hiyoshi: Jun 27, 2003; The jig is up!

H110Hawk posted:

If you're doing any kind of development with IIS you have to run Visual Studio as administrator to attach to the w3wp process for debugging. What do you expect developers to do, run Visual Studio as a normal user while not debugging, quit and run as administrator while debugging, and then quit and run as a normal user again when their debug session is over hundreds of times a day?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 05:09

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

Hiyoshi posted:

If you're doing any kind of development with IIS you have to run Visual Studio as administrator to attach to the w3wp process for debugging. What do you expect developers to do, run Visual Studio as a normal user while not debugging, quit and run as administrator while debugging, and then quit and run as a normal user again when their debug session is over hundreds of times a day?

Did you look at the code they were running?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 06:49

Cthulhuite: Mar 22, 2007; Shwmae!

It's like someone posted a selfie and we've spotted a HUGE dildo on a shelf behind them.

Just...nerdier.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 07:14

Che Delilas: Nov 23, 2009; FREE TIBET WEED

I don't find Python devs to be THAT masturbatory, even the ones that insist on sticking with 2.7.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 08:43

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

H110Hawk posted:

I just logged into check, that appears to be a side effect of the sysprep image. This is a standard Reuters image made by Microsoft for some whacky reason and it provides a GUI for setting up basic accounts and features. The account is named reutadmin but the home directory and full name is Administrator. So go figure.

MrMoo fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Feb 28, 2016

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:06

keseph: Oct 21, 2010; beep bawk boop bawk

Docjowles posted:

Do you have any links to guides for shipping Windows event logs to ELK?

Phone posting so I don't have a good link, but Jessica Payne has done a few sessions/videos on WEF in the last 6 months, though with a security focus. If you're managing more than about 10k endpoints, set up a couple of log servers, put ALL of the log servers in the GPO, and use security filtering on the subscription definition so each endpoint's event stream shows up in one place.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 18:40

ming-the-mazdaless: Nov 30, 2005; Whore funded horsepower

PCjr sidecar posted:

ELK stack. (Elasticsearch/Logstash/Kibana)

Happily using ELK for insider threat detection.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 13:29

GnarlyCharlie4u: Sep 23, 2007; I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

So I just got off the phone with Airwatch.
They just finished installing and setting up their program.

They installed 8.2 "because their 8.3 installer didn't work, and our support contract doesn't cover the upgrade."

Excuse me? This is going to be a fun loving Monday.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 18:18

NeuralSpark: Apr 16, 2004

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

<Airwatch being Airwatch>

I used to be a contract CE for them and they have been chucklefucks since the very beginning. This type of poo poo from them is never surprising.

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Erwin: Feb 17, 2006

Yeah, Airwatch is pretty vile, and that's compared to the average enterprise software company.

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