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awesome-express
Dec 30, 2008

DrSunshine posted:

:iia:

Thanks! How neat!

It's around 1.7 billion if you do EU only

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Peggotty
May 9, 2014

Eskaton posted:

You didn't actually justify this point, unless you're suggesting Nazis would take control if they weren't suppressed.

No, I'm saying there is no net surplus of Nazis.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




cebrail posted:

No, I'm saying there is no net surplus of Nazis.
I did nazi that coming.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Eskaton posted:

You didn't actually justify this point, unless you're suggesting Nazis would take control if they weren't suppressed.

Having less nazis is better. Supressing nazis creates less nazis as opposed to not supressing nazis.

Here's a mysterymap!

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Abundance of earthworms versus their number of species.

I didn't Google it but I think I might follow the same Twitter accounts as you do and I recall that map being posted.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

the jizz taxi posted:

Abundance of earthworms versus their number of species.

I didn't Google it but I think I might follow the same Twitter accounts as you do and I recall that map being posted.

Neeeerrrrrrdddd.

edit:

Count Roland fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 29, 2016

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

ekuNNN posted:

Having less nazis is better. Supressing nazis creates less nazis as opposed to not supressing nazis.

Here's a mysterymap!


One thing's for sure, it ain't snakes

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

ekuNNN posted:

Having less nazis is better. Supressing nazis creates less nazis as opposed to not supressing nazis.

PM Al-Maliki of Iraq thought the exact same thing about radical Sunni zealots.

How'd that turn out? I was in a coma between 2006 and this morning.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Certainly something to do with critters of some sort. Something there's a lot of in areas with rich soil and farming, specially river deltas.

Peggotty
May 9, 2014

420 Gank Mid posted:

PM Al-Maliki of Iraq thought the exact same thing about radical Sunni zealots.

How'd that turn out? I was in a coma between 2006 and this morning.

The coma is probably the reason for thinking that's comparable.

And it worked spectacularly well in Germany.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

the jizz taxi posted:

Abundance of earthworms versus their number of species.

I didn't Google it but I think I might follow the same Twitter accounts as you do and I recall that map being posted.

Good job! It's kind of interesting how theres a LOT of just one kind of earthworm in certain areas

420 Gank Mid posted:

PM Al-Maliki of Iraq thought the exact same thing about radical Sunni zealots.

How'd that turn out? I was in a coma between 2006 and this morning.

I forgot that suppressing a group is always exactly the same no matter what the context :(

World Kraid Center
Oct 18, 2009

cebrail posted:

The status quo was a country full of literal actual Nazis. The ones who voted the NSDAP into power, the ones who were active perpetrators in the Holocaust. It's absurd to claim that german governments are "in the long run creating a net surplus of Nazis" by suppressing their opinions.

Also you didn't understand the sign, it didn't describe the government as nazis.

what status quo? the nazis were utterly destroyed by 1945 and scattered to the ends of the earth. germany is literally full of nazis? what the gently caress are you talking about? no it isn't. political correctness and the banning of runic symbolism in 2016 didn't eradicate the nazis, the red army did. in 1945. my point never even had anything to do with the status quo in the 1930s, what in the world gave you that impression? the reality is, right now, that the european right wing is being empowered by how out of control and hypocritical the left is- and do you know who proves it?

Marine Le Pen.

the nazis were never democratically put into power- Adolf Hitler was appointed by the Chancellor and by the time elections rolled around, the left wing was literally outlawed. That you don't even understand this very basic history ties in just perfectly with how utterly naive you are- "being proud of your country is literally fascism! if we shut nationalists up and intimidate them into silence, they'll just go away and stop caring about their nation!"

and another idiot actually tries to imply that free speech in the USA is bad because an insignificant amount of neo-nazis exist in this country. what the gently caress is wrong with you people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rcc7xgD2dM

what a joke of a leader. people like you are going to be responsible for the next war in europe.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

a hundred boners posted:

what status quo? the nazis were utterly destroyed by 1945 and scattered to the ends of the earth. germany is literally full of nazis? what the gently caress are you talking about? no it isn't. political correctness and the banning of runic symbolism in 2016 didn't eradicate the nazis, the red army did. in 1945. my point never even had anything to do with the status quo in the 1930s, what in the world gave you that impression? the reality is, right now, that the european right wing is being empowered by how out of control and hypocritical the left is- and do you know who proves it?

Marine Le Pen.

the nazis were never democratically put into power- Adolf Hitler was appointed by the Chancellor and by the time elections rolled around, the left wing was literally outlawed. That you don't even understand this very basic history ties in just perfectly with how utterly naive you are- "being proud of your country is literally fascism! if we shut nationalists up and intimidate them into silence, they'll just go away and stop caring about their nation!"

and another idiot actually tries to imply that free speech in the USA is bad because an insignificant amount of neo-nazis exist in this country. what the gently caress is wrong with you people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rcc7xgD2dM

what a joke of a leader. people like you are going to be responsible for the next war in europe.

not waving a flag like a nationalist idiot makes you responsible for starting a war with nationalist idiots

Makes sense.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

cebrail posted:

And it worked spectacularly well in Germany.

Haha yeah sure. Out of sight out of mind/What you can't see can't hurt you

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Killin' Natzis

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

a hundred boners posted:

what status quo? the nazis were utterly destroyed by 1945 and scattered to the ends of the earth. germany is literally full of nazis? what the gently caress are you talking about? no it isn't. political correctness and the banning of runic symbolism in 2016 didn't eradicate the nazis, the red army did.

what he's referring to is that most nazi-supporters in the german population were still there after the war ended as while their army got ruined and top political brass got caged most common-level nazis were still very much around and the banning of nazi symbolism was a very important part of a larger conscious effort of german post-war culture to destroy nazism and all it's roots but i guess they're idiots because they repress the very same ideology that got their country loving destroyed.

a hundred boners posted:

the nazis were never democratically put into power- Adolf Hitler was appointed by the Chancellor and by the time elections rolled around, the left wing was literally outlawed. That you don't even understand this very basic history ties in just perfectly with how utterly naive you are- "being proud of your country is literally fascism! if we shut nationalists up and intimidate them into silence, they'll just go away and stop caring about their nation!"

nazi share of the vote in the 1933 election. the nazi party owned about a third of congress seats before hitler got chancellored



but i guess all those nazi voters just up and evaporated right after the potsdam conference

a hundred boners posted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rcc7xgD2dM

what a joke of a leader. people like you are going to be responsible for the next war in europe.

noted left-wing tyrant Angela Merkel is communisting it up so hard that it will force the hand of our plucky nationalists who only want to care for their nation by plunging europe into war

also the Christian Democratic Union ideology is basically juche and the center-right doesn't exist in Europe



remember kids, nationalism melts your loving brains

bagual fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Mar 1, 2016

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

what's up with the common symbolism between france and albania, the fist holding a flower or whatever

here are two maps. i erased the legend on the first, the second was made that way. what is they. what is they???


neither are nazis believe it or not

oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 1, 2016

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

oystertoadfish posted:

what's up with the common symbolism between france and albania, the fist holding a flower or whatever

here are two maps. i erased the legend on the first, the second was made that way. what is they. what is they???


neither are nazis believe it or not

Red one: Some invasive insect that destroys some type of fruit?

Green: No idea.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

oystertoadfish posted:

what's up with the common symbolism between france and albania, the fist holding a flower or whatever

here are two maps. i erased the legend on the first, the second was made that way. what is they. what is they???


neither are nazis believe it or not

First is fire ants, second is kudzu. I only identified the kudzu map because it was broken and I had to open it in a separate tab to see it.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

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oystertoadfish posted:



neither are nazis believe it or not


I'm terribly sorry. I've always been a creeper. Violetta says I creep like the kudzu vines that are slowly but surely strangling our Dixie.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


bagual posted:

what he's referring to is that most nazi-supporters in the german population were still there after the war ended as while their army got ruined and top political brass got caged most common-level nazis were still very much around and the banning of nazi symbolism was a very important part of a larger conscious effort of german post-war culture to destroy nazism and all it's roots but i guess they're idiots because they repress the very same ideology that got their country loving destroyed.


nazi share of the vote in the 1933 election. the nazi party owned about a third of congress seats before hitler got chancellored



but i guess all those nazi voters just up and evaporated right after the potsdam conference


noted left-wing tyrant Angela Merkel is communisting it up so hard that it will force the hand of our plucky nationalists who only want to care for their nation by plunging europe into war

also the Christian Democratic Union ideology is basically juche and the center-right doesn't exist in Europe



remember kids, nationalism melts your loving brains

nationalism is not inherently right wing, and the nationalism of pre-WW2 europe was generally liberal. it was still bad and drove people to do all sorts of horrible things though, and you should be glad it's dead

Lemon Head
Nov 6, 2010

oystertoadfish posted:

what's up with the common symbolism between france and albania, the fist holding a flower or whatever

Socialism. :ussr:

Okay, fine, just social democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_(symbolism)#Socialism

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

oystertoadfish posted:

what's up with the common symbolism between france and albania, the fist holding a flower or whatever

here are two maps. i erased the legend on the first, the second was made that way. what is they. what is they???


neither are nazis believe it or not

The red one is definitely fire ants. I had a whole year in middle school science where we only read about fire ants and how they were going to bite us all to death.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Didn't someone just post something about how overblown the Kudzu spread actually is?

Jaramin
Oct 20, 2010


It grows very poorly on pine trees, since they cant support its weight but are elastic enough to bend without breaking before it just falls off. Probably not good for the hardwoods though.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

PittTheElder posted:

Didn't someone just post something about how overblown the Kudzu spread actually is?

Someone posted a map in the change in tree-cover and someone else thought it was mainly because of Kudzu. But it wasn't.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

oystertoadfish posted:

what's up with the common symbolism between france and albania, the fist holding a flower or whatever

here are two maps. i erased the legend on the first, the second was made that way. what is they. what is they???


neither are nazis believe it or not

I knew it was fire ants the moment I saw the West Coast. I think people have already been reporting them hitting here in California!

Although the Paradox player in me just wants that bottom Southwest edge to link up and the whole mass to spread inward and gobble up the whole country, turning it into a roiling sea of fire ants. :getin:

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
Fire ants actually aren't that bad. They sting if you get bit, but they're also really easy to kill.

My parents (in Oregon) have these really annoying ones. They're small, smell like dry erase markets when you squish them, and if the colony feels threatened they'll split into two new colonies so now you have twice as many sources of ants.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

I've always found each of Sweden's political party having their own flower pretty cute. :3:

a hundred boners posted:


what a joke of a leader. people like you are going to be responsible for the next war in europe.

Noted Leftist, Angela Merkel.

Edit:loving beat!

misdirectomy
Feb 19, 2008

nutria-spread.jpg would be pretty close to this

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

icantfindaname posted:

nationalism is not inherently right wing, and the nationalism of pre-WW2 europe was generally liberal. it was still bad and drove people to do all sorts of horrible things though, and you should be glad it's dead

Oh you sweet summer child.

I have such things to so you!

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

icantfindaname posted:

nationalism is not inherently right wing, and the nationalism of pre-WW2 europe was generally liberal. it was still bad and drove people to do all sorts of horrible things though, and you should be glad it's dead

you must be thinking of western european nationalisms, 'cause by 1939 there were fascist nationalisms from the iberian peninsula through italy into central and eastern europe



Being one of the pillars of modern statecraft, nationalism can swing any ideological way. Nationalism is basically an ideology of territory and state, and so violence. It's generally bad, but as violence it is sometimes justified as a form self defence, a peoples getting ethnically cleansed rallying to a flag for instance. Of course, most of the time the "national interest" is mostly used as a rhetorical hammer to justify whatever and that gets us to first-world nationalist retards screaming "white genocide" at migrants who were actually being genocided in their home countries.

bagual fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Mar 1, 2016

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

first off, thanks for telling me about the rose and socialism. i guess its my american upbringing that kept me from learning basic things about socialism. left-of-center=liberalism=the economist in the us basically

fire ants and kudzu, yup. there's a lot of different maps of both, really, especially kudzu. and yeah, it did come up earlier in the thread, i never dug into that whole argument too far it just occurred to me when i was thinking about the fire ant spread pattern. relatively similar. those oregon counties are pretty random

i was reminded the other day cause somebody at work talked about how thye went rafting down the grand canyon and said she got bit by fire ants at one of their camp sites on the colorado. and that's not the kind of thing you make up, i don't think, she was quite specific about seeing several red ants crawling around on her leg biting her. doesn't show up on any of the maps though, just what looks like maricopa county a ways south in arizona... i guess they're pushing toward that temperature line, huh

and i grew up in florida, one of my childhood memories is breaking this bamboo shaft and having a bunch of fire ants inside it crawl all over me. loving fire ants

edit: here's another one where looking at the url is cheating :ssh:

oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Mar 1, 2016

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Spread of domesticated horses, in years BC?

e: gently caress, so close.

computer parts posted:

Someone posted a map in the change in tree-cover and someone else thought it was mainly because of Kudzu. But it wasn't.

I remember that, I'm pretty sure somebody posted this shortly after: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/true-story-kudzu-vine-ate-south-180956325/?no-ist

Apparently Kudzu looks like it's overrunning everything, but it's something of an illusion.

Maxwells Demon
Jan 15, 2007


well upload a copy to imgur it such that we can't quote your post when guessing it.

I was going to guess effects of desertification.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I long for the sweet embrace of kudzu

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Maxwells Demon posted:

well upload a copy to imgur it such that we can't quote your post when guessing it.

I was going to guess effects of desertification.

alright alright GOSH ill do something obvious that takes 8 seconds

(good point) edited

yes, pitt the elder was close

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

bagual posted:



remember kids, nationalism melts your loving brains

1) The criteria for being a nationalist party seems to be somewhat erratic.

2) Piss of Macedonia, that lion is the property of Finland.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
Isn't that a map of current ruling parties

And the one that isn't horses is spread of chariots

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Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Ras Het posted:

Isn't that a map of current ruling parties

Yeah.

Also this whole hoopla about whether it's better to ban/suppress Nazis or not does not make an awful lot of sense to me. I think that in any sort of democracy there will always be a part of the electorate that is sensitive to populist versions of the ruling hegemonic ideology (i.e. Authoritarians).

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