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NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Montasque posted:

So you guys voting for Trump then?

No, but I honestly think Trump isn't an evil one dimensional parody and that Clinton is a really lovely candidate serving corporate masters who will gently caress the poor much harder than Trump.

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skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
So are we just ignoring that Trump kicked a couple dozen black students out of a rally at a college before he even started talking, or...

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy
Drumpf! <click>

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

NutritiousSnack posted:

No, but I honestly think Trump isn't an evil one dimensional parody and that Clinton is a really lovely candidate serving corporate masters who will gently caress the poor much harder than Trump.

Trump vs Hillary who do you vote for?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

skaboomizzy posted:

So are we just ignoring that Trump kicked a couple dozen black students out of a rally at a college before he even started talking, or...
Well, you see, when black people get together in groups they're obviously up to no good so

User
May 3, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Nap Ghost
I think it's pretty hilarious that idiots think that playing up Trump's German heritage is somehow bad for him when they are the single largest national group in the electorate. This is on a par with saying Obama has an African sounding name, except way more stupid.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Omi-Polari posted:

Well, you see, when black people get together in groups they're obviously up to no good so

This but unironically. No way they weren't about to protest.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Ivor Biggun posted:

Drumpf! <click>

Achtung Drumpf!

*klicken*

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
The Donald and Christie tread down the dirt road. Suddenly Donald spies a flash of red in the corner of his eye. It proves to be a trampled Jeb! yard sign. He picks it up.

"This used to mean something to someone, Chris," he mutters. "A flash of...I don't know. A flash of love. Caring, I guess? They cared. America. They really-- you know, they should be for me. I don't know what they are, but they should be for me. I-- and I really, really hope for this, I want this so much, they are for me. Huh." He tosses the sign aside, where it lands in a mud puddle in the road. Horse hooves drive it into the road....

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Montasque posted:

Trump vs Hillary who do you vote for?

I go to work, and instead of voting go see a movie. Maybe if IL starts slanting towards Trump I hold my nose, but probably not.

User
May 3, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Nap Ghost

Not a Step posted:

This but unironically. No way they weren't about to protest.

Why do you hate the first amendment? Rioting is totally speech. They just need room to destroy.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Imagine how great it would be if Trump's supporters somehow got confused and thought they needed to write "Drumpf" in caucus states, and he had to peevishly explain in all rallies that was wrong.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

gently caress riots

gently caress the terps

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
trump just has an eye for perps

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
They had to be holding signs or something.

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006




Today's the day.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

NutritiousSnack posted:

I go to work, and instead of voting go see a movie. Maybe if IL starts slanting towards Trump I hold my nose, but probably not.

There's probably good races down ballot you should vote on.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

Jewel Repetition posted:

They had to be holding signs or something.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/

VALDOSTA, Ga. — About 30 black students who were standing silently at the top of the bleachers at Donald Trump’s rally here Monday night were escorted out by Secret Service agents who said the presidential candidate had requested their removal before he began speaking.

The sight of the students, who were visibly upset, being led outside by law enforcement officials created a stir at a university that was a whites-only campus until 1963.

“We didn’t plan to do anything,” said a tearful Tahjila Davis, a 19-year-old mass media major, who was among the Valdosta State University students who was removed. “They said, 'This is Trump’s property; it’s a private event.' But I paid my tuition to be here.”


Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks in an email late Monday night denied that the students were shown the door "at the request of the candidate."

"There is no truth to this whatsoever," Hicks said.

Trump has been regularly heckled by protesters at his campaign rallies, but tensions have increased after he came under fire on Sunday for not immediately condemning support from a prominent white supremacist.

Earlier Monday, some black students at another Trump campaign rally, on the campus of Radford University in Virginia, were led out by Secret Service after they began chanting: “No more hate! No more hate! Let's be equal, let's be great!"

The two campus rallies took place just one day before high-stakes Super Tuesday, when 11 states hold GOP contests, including a collection of southern states. Trump is poised to lock down enough delegates to give him a sizable – and possibly insurmountable – lead over his GOP rivals.

During his remarks in Valdosta, Trump said he’s leading a movement. “I’m just a messenger,” he said.

Later, Trump said his whole life has been about making money, but "now I’m going to be greedy for the United States,” as the audience roared. “I’m going to take, take, take and we’re going to become rich again.”

Karen Clendenin, 58, a victims advocate in the local district attorney’s office, said she was very impressed and that she’ll vote for Trump on Tuesday in Georgia's primary. Clendenin said she wore her “Trump” T-shirt Monday even though she was “a little embarrassed.”

“So many people at work say, ‘Oh, no, we can’t have him. He’s not sensitive enough,’” she said. “But with the condition our country is in today, we’ve got to have somebody who’s not afraid.”

The students who were asked to leave quietly followed Secret Service agents outside, but then argued with Valdosta police officers who politely, but firmly, told them they needed to leave the grounds of the Trump event, held at the school’s PE complex.

Davis rested her forehead on the shoulder of her friend Leah Sheppard, a 20-year-old criminal justice major, and cried.

“I don’t understand why they would do something like that,” Davis said. “I have not experienced any racism on this campus until now.”

After a barrage of criticism for failing to denounce support from former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke during a CNN interview broadcast Sunday, Trump Monday morning said the problem was that he had difficulty hearing Tapper’s question because of the “very bad earpiece” CNN had given him.

“I think he’s ignorant,” said Clinesha Sims, an 18-year-old biology major who wasn’t among the students escorted out by security. Sims said she intended to stay seated throughout Trump’s speech.

“Sometimes silence says more than words,” she said.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Montasque posted:

Why do you hate the working class?

Pre-requisite for being a True Hillary supporter.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

ah yes going to a rally and protesting by being silent

I protested the new Star Wars by buying a ticket and silently watching it in the theatre

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
18 year old biology major = premed that will will hit the wall of o-chem hard and washout to social ecology.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

skaboomizzy posted:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/

VALDOSTA, Ga. — About 30 black students who were standing silently at the top of the bleachers at Donald Trump’s rally here Monday night were escorted out by Secret Service agents who said the presidential candidate had requested their removal before he began speaking.

The sight of the students, who were visibly upset, being led outside by law enforcement officials created a stir at a university that was a whites-only campus until 1963.

“We didn’t plan to do anything,” said a tearful Tahjila Davis, a 19-year-old mass media major, who was among the Valdosta State University students who was removed. “They said, 'This is Trump’s property; it’s a private event.' But I paid my tuition to be here.”


“I think he’s ignorant,” said Clinesha Sims, an 18-year-old biology major who wasn’t among the students escorted out by security. Sims said she intended to stay seated throughout Trump’s speech.

“Sometimes silence says more than words,” she said.


If Clinesha had Tahjila and 30 more friends she might have been a little bolder.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

the trump tutelage posted:

Going to sleep now. Tomorrow I wake to a brave new world.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
Oyster toadfish I hope you get to go to space someday too!! :)

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

jfc this lovely thread

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

katlington posted:

Youre dangerously close to a coherent explanation for the popularity of ironic detachment

Cool fact: if you are negative about something like a book or movie then ppl regard you as smart! Ppl associate being negative with being smart! Idk why but it is a cool fact nonetheless. Thanks for reading my post. :)

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
G... gowby?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


i miss gowb's ironic misspellings

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Hello new trump world

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Glad to see we're cool with literally racially profiling Trump rally attendees. That's cool and good.

But don't worry, he's totally gonna win a yooge share of minority voters in Novemeber. The Blacks love him.

RedQueen
Apr 21, 2007

It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place.

Joementum posted:

Should Trump win the nomination, interesting things to watch for:

1. Does he actually build a campaign ground game? There have been anecdotal stories both saying he did a good job of this in some primary states (SC) and a terrible job in others (IA). We don't really know which is true and which isn't, or if both are true whether the people running his campaign have learned from past organizing mistakes and can apply that to a general election campaign.

2. To what extent does the RNC support him organizationally? The RNC has made a lot of noise about how they've fixed the Orca debacle from the 2012 campaign and now have a reliable network for electronic organization. If true, how much will Reince coordinate with the Trump campaign and give them access to this information? How much will the Trump campaign cooperate with the RNC and share back their data?

3. To what extent does the RNC support him monetarily. This is a big deal because the individual contribution limit is $2,700, but you can contribute an additional $10,000 to state parties, and an additional $33,400 to the national party. Those larger donations get put into the "victory fund", a large portion of which pays for advertising supporting the Presidential candidate, but is controlled by the RNC. Will they run ads supporting Trump, as they did for Mitt in 2012, or will the victory fund be used to support down ticket candidates to the exclusion of the Presidential campaign?

4. Does Trump continue to have outsized dominance of television news coverage, or will his and Hillary's campaign be covered with some parity? Will the cable networks cut to live stream his rallies? Keep in mind that Fox has not been doing that while CNN and MSNBC have. Will that continue in the general election?

5. How does he handle the convention? Typically, the RNC turns over convention planning to the Presidential candidate's campaign, coordinating with them on the speaking schedule and other details. Will Reince do that with the Trump campaign, or will they move to establish tighter control to ensure that down ticket Republican candidates are given a presence at the convention. Will those down ticket candidates agree to appear at a Trump convention? Will they go off script and criticize the nominee?

There are a lot more open questions about how the party will act should Trump win the nomination and how his campaign will operate. This is what I've meant when I've pointed out that we can't just look at historical trends and pretend to know how the campaign will work. There's going to be a lot more going on than an argument about what percentage increase/decrease we'll see for each demographic group.

These are fun questions to think about. I'm having a hard time imagining the RNC actively blocking Trump, withholding voter database info for example. Dragging their feet in lots of areas seems more likely.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

skaboomizzy posted:

Glad to see we're cool with literally racially profiling Trump rally attendees. That's cool and good.

But don't worry, he's totally gonna win a yooge share of minority voters in Novemeber. The Blacks love him.

quote:

Addressing Trump’s assertion that he has a good relationship with “the blacks,” Meyers said: “Unless the Blacks are a family of white people, I bet he’s mistaken.”

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
Black people are the conscience of America. But I'm not sure if a conscience is a viable thing to have. We have to be pragmatic.

User
May 3, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Nap Ghost
Ah, the riveting question of whether Trump will get closer to 200,000 or 1,000,000 votes from Black voters.

For what it's worth I think he'll exceed expectations.

Edit: This massive media racism push is some quality ratfucking though. I wonder if it will stick with anyone who wasn't already convinced by Huffpo's even-handed reporting already?

User fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Mar 1, 2016

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

User posted:

Ah, the riveting question of whether Trump will get closer to 200,000 or 1,000,000 votes from Black voters.

For what it's worth I think he'll exceed expectations.

Well, since expectations are basically 0 he'd pretty much have to exceed expectations through random chance. Someone out there is going to bubble in the sheet wrong.

Trump's path to victory is winning enough of the disillusioned white vote. If Trump can increase his share of the white vote to 65% it basically swamps the minority vote, and if he can somehow achieve 70% of the white vote it really doesn't matter what minorities think about anything.

User
May 3, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Nap Ghost

Not a Step posted:

Well, since expectations are basically 0 he'd pretty much have to exceed expectations through random chance. Someone out there is going to bubble in the sheet wrong.

Trump's path to victory is winning enough of the disillusioned white vote. If Trump can increase his share of the white vote to 65% it basically swamps the minority vote, and if he can somehow achieve 70% of the white vote it really doesn't matter what minorities think about anything.

Thanks Obama!

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

User posted:

I think it's pretty hilarious that idiots think that playing up Trump's German heritage

That's not what people are doing.

WINNINGHARD
Oct 4, 2014

I don't give a poo poo about anything.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009


you can see in another video that the reporter is not shoving him, hes getting up in his face and saying gently caress you. thats what triggered the chokeslam

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Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
The Donald and Christie lead their mounts down the road at an easy walk.

"You know," Donald says, "what is the real meaning of life, Christie?"

"Gosh Don, I don't know," Christie says.

They ride on in silence for a time. Then Donald says, "Is it money? Power? Fame? Maybe....I dunno, women?"
Christie cocks his head to the side. " I think, maybe it's love, Don."

The Donald raises an eyebrow. "Love? You really think so?" He assumes a contemplative look. "A love of money? Women? Power?"

Christie shifts in his seat. "Nah, Donald. Just love. By itself. Love is worth it all."

They ride along in silence, the only sound the soft tread of Narrative on the dry road.

Trump breaks the silence. "I will tell you, I've been thinking of good ways to kill Marco."

"Yeah?"

"Yeah. I'm thinking I'll have my guards press his face into my poo poo bucket until he suffocates."

Christie chuckles. "So he can die eating your poo poo. gently caress, I like it."

Trump smiles. "Right, really? So good. And I'm thinking, I'll just leave him there, like that."

Yeah, for the crows. Max ownage."

They march on in silence.

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