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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:In what situations mr dogfish, are there an abundance of doctors telling patients "they have to" when they really don't? "I need to do this" is doctor speak for "no seriously it's critical that I do this". http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...have-tubes-tied First example that came to mind. Tiberius Thyben has a new favorite as of 17:20 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:In what situations mr dogfish, are there an abundance of doctors telling patients "they have to" when they really don't? "I need to do this" is doctor speak for "no seriously it's critical that I do this". This is actually a well-documented problem in women's medical care so how about you deal with confronting new information the mature, intelligent way or go over to imgur and make a meme about what slutwhores women are for not wanting medically unnecessary surgery done without their consent.
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Monicro posted:My personal favorite thing about that native american one is the stealth-"go back to your own country" is it racist when a native american tells a person of european descent to go back to their country
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razorrozar posted:is it racist when a native american tells a person of european descent to go back to their country Yes because white people won the war so it's our country now. #ManifestDestiny
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:In what situations mr dogfish, are there an abundance of doctors telling patients "they have to" when they really don't? "I need to do this" is doctor speak for "no seriously it's critical that I do this". It's Ms. Dogfish, and I'm a registered midwife. (Not in the United States, where "midwife" can mean anything from "I read a book about delivering a baby once" to "I have a Master's in Nursing and specialized training," but rather in a context where midwifery is consistently regulated and integrated into the healthcare system.) I could list a hundred examples, and then you could pick apart each one, and we could go back and forth and have a huge derail, but instead I'll just say that I have, many times, seen medical professionals of all different designations ignore or minimize a "no" in the context of a non-urgent situation with a completely stable patient. It doesn't happen every day, and it doesn't happen to every patient, but it does happen, and it is traumatic when it happens. In other breaking news, racism and homophobia also exist in the hospital system! Go figure.
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Ok, but birth rape is still a dumb term.
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Leon Einstein posted:Ok, but birth rape is still a dumb term. Agreed. Dogfish posted:the cringeworthy term "birth rape"
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I love Leo, he is fantastic and after twenty-two years he finally has his Oscar  I also love that he spent half his speech talking about climate change. It has been A Thing with him for a long time but a portion of the internet seems mad that he is trying to raise awareness while also owning a yacht and flying in planes.  leave leo alooonnnee e: oops I thought this Leo/birth rape convo was in the idiots on social media thread, close enough I guess LITERALLY A BIRD has a new favorite as of 22:16 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:e: oops I thought this Leo/birth rape convo was in the idiots on social media thread, close enough I guess 
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omg your moderator star is a bird, that is amazing
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mng posted:omg your moderator star is a bird, that is amazing Literally.
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Haha, thank you, i love my tiny bird  e: here is a run-of-the-mill idiot on imgur as a palate cleanser from all the political idiocy today. quote:
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:In what situations mr dogfish, are there an abundance of doctors telling patients "they have to" when they really don't? "I need to do this" is doctor speak for "no seriously it's critical that I do this". Try reading this: http://steampunktoy.tumblr.com/post/127768833823/why-give-the-baby-up-for-adoption-is-not-the quote:I was aware people were panicking a bit, but it was hard to care. The doctor told me that I had one chance - ONE - to get the baby out RIGHT NOW. quote:I heard the doctor there say: I do not know how to fix this. I do not know what joins with what. I can’t see anything under this, there is too much damage. It looks like meat. The way women are treated during childbirth is loving atrocious. Birth rape is a pretty stupid term but "complete disregard for the woman birthing the child" exists and is far too common with medical staff. Even lactation specialists will just walk in and start fondling a woman's tits screeching about breast is best when they're still high off medication. Birth rape is still a stupid loving term though.
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Haha, thank you, i love my tiny bird Haha, that is just adorable.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Try reading this: http://steampunktoy.tumblr.com/post/127768833823/why-give-the-baby-up-for-adoption-is-not-the This idiocy is not from imgur
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FAROOQ posted:This idiocy is not from imgur I found it from a link on imgur, does that count  ?
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Haha, thank you, i love my tiny bird LOL. I love how wholesome this idiocy is. What a buffoon.
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Tiberius Thyben posted:http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...have-tubes-tied Thats hosed Dogfish posted:It's Ms. Dogfish, and I'm a registered midwife. (Not in the United States, where "midwife" can mean anything from "I read a book about delivering a baby once" to "I have a Master's in Nursing and specialized training," but rather in a context where midwifery is consistently regulated and integrated into the healthcare system.) I could list a hundred examples, and then you could pick apart each one, and we could go back and forth and have a huge derail, but instead I'll just say that I have, many times, seen medical professionals of all different designations ignore or minimize a "no" in the context of a non-urgent situation with a completely stable patient. It doesn't happen every day, and it doesn't happen to every patient, but it does happen, and it is traumatic when it happens. In other breaking news, racism and homophobia also exist in the hospital system! Go figure. No just linking cases where it happens is enough. It's a very hard thing to believe, especially because it's never been a thing I've heard of before. Maybe it's just not common here but even in the medical ethics courses I've done in my studies they literally didn't mention it despite talking to us about homophobia and racism, especially towards Aboriginals underage at the vape shop has a new favorite as of 02:18 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Thats hosed I've heard repeatedly that women in Texas who have 2 children where the state is involved have a habit of having mysterious complications resulting in sterilization.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Thats hosed Define "case." When a disenfranchised group is being hurt by an institution it's hard for the group to establish legitimacy of their claims because what is "legitimate" is defined by people and institutions in opposition to them. If a woman sued for malpractice and won you might call that legitimate, but there are so many obstacles to success down that route, because our society is inclined to take doctors more seriously than women, as this conversation has demonstrated. So people could link you the few indisputably legitimate "cases," but you might say "but there's hardly any, this isn't a problem, this is rare, I knew this was a made-up issue." If the woman loses in court you'll say it doesn't count. If she's unable to even bring it before a judge, due to lack of funds, lack of support, lack of understanding in our society that violation of consent is a type of harm, there's nothing for anyone to show you but that woman's testimony of her own experiences. Your attitude, with your knee-jerk rejection that this could even possibly happen, the way you keep sneering even after Dogfish established her credentials, makes it obvious you'd never listen to a woman say "this happened to me and it was wrong" and believe her, but that's the only evidence a disenfranchised person is likely to have. Attitudes like yours are why this happens. You are the type of person who would do this, and the type of person who wouldn't help someone it was done to. It's you. Problems in society can't always be boiled down to links on the internet. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and be open to new information all on your own.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Define "case." When a disenfranchised group is being hurt by an institution it's hard for the group to establish legitimacy of their claims because what is "legitimate" is defined by people and institutions in opposition to them. "Well your baby is healthy, so-" completely fucks over women in these circumstances. Forced episiotomies, forced cesarean sections, forced chemical intervention, etc. The US has a massive, massive problem with childbirth related assault and doctors get away with it for the reasons Tiny Brontosaurus said and also because the end result of "well your baby is fine" overrides literal medical torture in court. It's easy to "lol home birther morons" but when you look at the absolute horror of the US birthing system it's totally understandable why women make that choice.
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[quote="Tiny Brontosaurus" post=""45692134"]. Attitudes like yours are why this happens. You are the type of person who would do this, and the type of person who wouldn't help someone it was done to. It's you. Problems in society can't always be boiled down to links on the internet. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and be open to new information all on your own. [/quote] Holy poo poo gently caress off. Try being less condescending and lovely to people being exposed to new forms of discrimination and terrible human behaviour. And further, this shitsure isn't the thread for it.
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gently caress off with that bullshit Brontosaurus. I am absolutely not the type of person to pressure a woman into being sterilised and I'm absolutely not the type of person to say "well the babies healthy" after hearing that the mother got forced into having her tubes cut after birth. Do you even comprehend how terrible you are being here? Your condescending self righteous bullshit is exactly the reason people don't take in new information. Instead of 4 paragraphs of "You are a terrible person and I am better than you", maybe you could actually provide something of substance such as: Tiberius Thyben posted:http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...have-tubes-tied Horrible Smutbeast posted:Try reading this: http://steampunktoy.tumblr.com/post/127768833823/why-give-the-baby-up-for-adoption-is-not-the It's you. You are the problem. You are the reason people just go eugh when told about things because people like you act superior and no one wants to put up with your bullshit. My health system is good. It's good to the point where student doctors don't even get taught about this in course focusing on all the bad poo poo doctors have done, probably because its not an issue here. Sorry I was distrustful of someone quoting an anti-sjw bait article and saying "well actually" without any other information. underage at the vape shop has a new favorite as of 03:27 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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RFC2324 posted:I've heard repeatedly that women in Texas who have 2 children where the state is involved have a habit of having mysterious complications resulting in sterilization. I wish I didn't believe you. E:holey moley ^^^^^ poo poo just hit the fan. I'm checking out of this one. DicktheCat has a new favorite as of 03:33 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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OH BOY OKAY HERE YOU GO  This is part of a whole gallery, but it's only like three more pictures and they're all just as scummy soooo
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:e: here is a run-of-the-mill idiot on imgur as a palate cleanser from all the political idiocy today. I like how this story, if even remotely true, implies the dude didn't bother to check his destination city. "Oh, we'll just fly to Arizona and find the Grand Canyon from there. It's not like we'd want to book a hotel near the Grand Canyon or anything!" Actually, I'm starting to think this did happen, just because it would be fairly ridiculous to post at STDH and all it relies on is the OP being insanely stupid, which is plausible enough.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:gently caress off with that bullshit Brontosaurus. I am absolutely not the type of person to pressure a woman into being sterilised and I'm absolutely not the type of person to say "well the babies healthy" after hearing that the mother got forced into having her tubes cut after birth. Do you even comprehend how terrible you are being here? Think of how many birth rapes you have directly contributed to you monster
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