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Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

crunk dork posted:

Studying for this seemed tacky the whole time because the emphasis was on ASDM and not making sure you know the CLI equivalent.. Makes me feel dirty.

Cisco got back to me last night wrt my open case with them and said everything works how it should and that I just needed to study more or something.. Punk motherfuckers

Holy cow. Tons of complaints from everybody taking the test, even taking it multiple times and knowing exactly what the sim is going to be and still not being able to complete it, and they defer to 'git good'. That's ridiculously out of touch.

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Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
Called it.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Kashuno posted:

Called it.

I'm very happy I didn't put it off til I get back from vacation to see if I got a voucher.

Now I can think about capstone paper ideas while drinking in a cabin instead of worrying about Cisco :sigh:

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
What shitheads

MrBigglesworth
Mar 26, 2005

Lover of Fuzzy Meatloaf
I have scheduled my retake of 640-911 Cisco Intro to Data Center Networking tomorrow.

I have reached "that point" again on study where when you see what you are looking over, you know exactly what it means, but this time, obsessing over the new content that was on my test that was nowhere to be found in the study materials that I got from both Odom and Lammle.

However, my luck will be to get a few new random questions that are also new that are also STILL not covered and probably fail....again. If I fail again I am shelving the DC track until second edition materials come out and Ill just move on to CCNP R&S.

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


crunk dork posted:

Studying for this seemed tacky the whole time because the emphasis was on ASDM and not making sure you know the CLI equivalent.. Makes me feel dirty.

Cisco got back to me last night wrt my open case with them and said everything works how it should and that I just needed to study more or something.. Punk motherfuckers

Not disagreeing with you, but in case anyone itt doesn't know, there's an option in ASDM, which is disabled by default, that pops up a box with all the commands that are about to be run when you apply changes to a box. If you're practicing with ASDM, I'd highly recommend turning that on so you at least see exactly what it's doing and you can compare it against how you think you'd do it.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Bigass Moth posted:

What shitheads

Vadun
Mar 9, 2011

I'm hungrier than a green snake in a sugar cane field.

rafikki posted:

Not disagreeing with you, but in case anyone itt doesn't know, there's an option in ASDM, which is disabled by default, that pops up a box with all the commands that are about to be run when you apply changes to a box. If you're practicing with ASDM, I'd highly recommend turning that on so you at least see exactly what it's doing and you can compare it against how you think you'd do it.

Agreed, that option is amazing and should be used in all real world scenarios.

It's also not an option you can enable on the lab.

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005

MrBigglesworth posted:

I have scheduled my retake of 640-911 Cisco Intro to Data Center Networking tomorrow.

I have reached "that point" again on study where when you see what you are looking over, you know exactly what it means, but this time, obsessing over the new content that was on my test that was nowhere to be found in the study materials that I got from both Odom and Lammle.

However, my luck will be to get a few new random questions that are also new that are also STILL not covered and probably fail....again. If I fail again I am shelving the DC track until second edition materials come out and Ill just move on to CCNP R&S.

Good luck on your second run, bud. Let us know how it goes.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Is INE worth it for the CCIE? The two year all-access pass is less than half of the cost of one of my master's courses, so I'm thinking it might be worth it just for the added boost.

Vadun
Mar 9, 2011

I'm hungrier than a green snake in a sugar cane field.

psydude posted:

Is INE worth it for the CCIE? The two year all-access pass is less than half of the cost of one of my master's courses, so I'm thinking it might be worth it just for the added boost.

I can't speak on the CCIE level yet (I'll report back after watching a few videos), but the CCNA and CCNP level videos aren't that great. At least 60% of every video seems to be rambling on some non-important topic. Christian, whose videos i'm watching now obviously knows his stuff but he gets sidetracked way too easily. Someone told me its best practice to watch these at 130% speed.

Sypher
Feb 4, 2003
I have my Net+ exam on Friday. Overall, I am feeling pretty confident. I have taken a few simulated practice exams through pearsonit and have got passing scores on all of them. (Albeit barely).

Two things I am concerned about:
> The "performance" based questions. I honestly have no idea what to expect for the Net+ simulations. Some people have told me it is just drag/drop items into the correct OSI layer. Others have said I will need to do actual configuring on devices(one person even said configuring route table via CLI)
> loving Ethernet standards. I am terrible with memorization. Anything fiber related just seems so random. What are some good strategies for remembering distance limitations/medium?

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Sypher posted:

I have my Net+ exam on Friday. Overall, I am feeling pretty confident. I have taken a few simulated practice exams through pearsonit and have got passing scores on all of them. (Albeit barely).

Two things I am concerned about :
> The "performance" based questions. I honestly have no idea what to expect for the Net+ simulations. Some people have told me it is just drag/drop items into the correct OSI layer. Others have said I will need to do actual configuring on devices(one person even said configuring route table via CLI)
> loving Ethernet standards. I am terrible with memorization. Anything fiber related just seems so random. What are some good strategies for remembering distance limitations/medium?

Drill it into your head until you puke. I never could come up with something that stuck in my head to memorize those ethernet standards, so I rote memorized it and passed every question regarding it on the test.

The performance things are graded easily so if you get a sim asking to configure wifi APs or something silly, don't panic over the CLI stuff. Try your best and you should get a decent number of points out of it. The other drag and drop stuff is pretty easy (know your ethernet standards and OSI layers!)

I was hitting roughly 82-85% on practice tests before going in, and got an 89% on the actual test. I feel the practice tests are harder because they need to skirt around the huge question pool the N+ has.

fordan
Mar 9, 2009

Clue: Zero
INE is doing a 6-hour online GNS3 class I just signed up for so I'll see how that goes; the one INE video I watched didn't inspire me with confidence, but admittedly only a sample of one. http://www.ine.com/gns3.htm if anyone else is interested.

I suspect paying for the much cheaper Safari books subscription may be more effective, at least in terms of prepping for the CCIE written. For the lab, I'm a big fan of doing a good CCIE lab bootcamp around 45-60 days before you're scheduled to take the lab to help show you what you don't know so you have time to fix that lack.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
So due to ordering a bunch of CBT Nuggets courses all at once (we have a code based subscription at work that's about to expire, so we've been given permission to request anything that's at all interesting), I'm noticing that I think I learn better if I'm studying more than one specific certification/area at a time.

After focusing solely on CCNA for a while, poking around with Linux/Powershell/70-410 etc is kinda refreshing.

Anyone else study this way? Or do most of you just focus on one cert at a time?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

So due to ordering a bunch of CBT Nuggets courses all at once (we have a code based subscription at work that's about to expire, so we've been given permission to request anything that's at all interesting), I'm noticing that I think I learn better if I'm studying more than one specific certification/area at a time.

After focusing solely on CCNA for a while, poking around with Linux/Powershell/70-410 etc is kinda refreshing.

Anyone else study this way? Or do most of you just focus on one cert at a time?

I kind of do the same thing. I keep one primary focus that I beat the hell out of on a daily basis but if I'm fed up with it on an off day or something I usually study Python or just read about new exploits.

That's about to change though, getting my HTML/CSS, JS, and Python up to par while I save up for PWK/OSCP crap

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Do one thing at a time. You'll need to focus your energy. There's just too much information flying around to effectively study multiple things at once.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
I'm doing "pre-studying" before my WGU term starts so I can fly through certs faster. It is pretty effective to jump from one subject to another, allows for better focus on long studying sessions. But if I were going for any of these certs I would definitely drop the other subjects and drill down hard on what I need for the test.

MrBigglesworth
Mar 26, 2005

Lover of Fuzzy Meatloaf
Passed 640-911 second try. I am absolutely convinced that what got me on the first test was the hardware specific material such as model numbers license info, what to do want to kickstart image or how to boot into the bios on a certain piece of equipment. The stuff is simply not mentioned in the official guides.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

Judge Schnoopy posted:

I'm doing "pre-studying" before my WGU term starts so I can fly through certs faster. It is pretty effective to jump from one subject to another, allows for better focus on long studying sessions. But if I were going for any of these certs I would definitely drop the other subjects and drill down hard on what I need for the test.

Not really in response to what you said, but I can't help but be interested in WGU. I keep looking into it, but I don't think it's really for me right now (married, with a toddler, I already have an (irrelevant to IT) MS, and I'm looking forward to the loans for it being gone).

Maybe when my daughter's older and the loans are paid off.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Ah come on man! I have a 2 year old and wife and will have completed 36 credits this term at the end of the month, and I'm not even that smart. They'd credit a lot of stuff to you for your degree and experience too.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Not really in response to what you said, but I can't help but be interested in WGU. I keep looking into it, but I don't think it's really for me right now (married, with a toddler, I already have an (irrelevant to IT) MS, and I'm looking forward to the loans for it being gone).

Maybe when my daughter's older and the loans are paid off.

I have 2 kids under 4 and never thought I would have the time for WGU. Then I left an MSP for a junior admin job that is really slow (maybe 2 days worth of work every week) and decided if I don't get my bachelors now, I'll never get it. Kind of a perfect opportunity that I'm jumping on as quickly as I can. I have my associates so every gen-ed was knocked off the list, plus another 4 courses for my previous certs. Everything tells me I can finish in a year for ~7k, which is stupid cheap.

Really at this point I'd be an idiot not to do it and would deserve all the ire from busier people wishing they could.

MrBigglesworth
Mar 26, 2005

Lover of Fuzzy Meatloaf
Do it! I went back with 28 credits at my school and a baby on the way. Get it over with!

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

I transferred in 47 credits from previous schools and certs and I'm going to complete in 2 terms. It's worth it and you absolutely have enough time.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
I mean, I'm interested but I'm also wondering what the actual benefits would really be. I'm already studying most of what they'd have me study, and I already have a Master's that kinda looks (though it wasn't really) relevant to IT ("Information Science").

Plus I work at a University where I could be taking for-credit CS/IS classes for nearly-free (and I plan on doing that next semester if I'm still here).

I'll look into it more though, probably at least talk to one of their advisors.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

I mean, I'm interested but I'm also wondering what the actual benefits would really be. I'm already studying most of what they'd have me study, and I already have a Master's that kinda looks (though it wasn't really) relevant to IT ("Information Science").

Plus I work at a University where I could be taking for-credit CS/IS classes for nearly-free (and I plan on doing that next semester if I'm still here).

I'll look into it more though, probably at least talk to one of their advisors.

They pay for certs + retakes?

That is, if you feel like sitting through CompTIA bullshit for a year. A+, N+, S+, Linux+, Project+ fuuuuccckkkkkkk :suicide:

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

Judge Schnoopy posted:

They pay for certs + retakes?

That is, if you feel like sitting through CompTIA bullshit for a year. A+, N+, S+, Linux+, Project+ fuuuuccckkkkkkk :suicide:

I would only need two more to complete that list. :suicide:

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005

MrBigglesworth posted:

Passed 640-911 second try. I am absolutely convinced that what got me on the first test was the hardware specific material such as model numbers license info, what to do want to kickstart image or how to boot into the bios on a certain piece of equipment. The stuff is simply not mentioned in the official guides.

Grats dude! :yotj: Now I just have to get off my rear end and finish it.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

So I've got the CompTIA poo poo trifecta and my CCNA. My current job is as a generalist 90% windows 10% linux and occasional networking guy. I'm generally bored and don't know where to start advancing my career. Every once in a while something like AWS or Ansible comes around and looks cool and I'll spend a little bit of time on it but I never seem to make it stick. I guess this is a long winded way of asking what would a good next cert be? I've thought about studying for the VCP6 exam but that would really only cover stuff I already work with and know. Money is a huge motivating factor for me, so I thought maybe the CISSP would be a worthwhile goal. Has anyone done that and been able to move from a general sysadmin role to something they've enjoyed as a security specialist?

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
If you have a ccna you should be able to find a networking role somewhere else.

Sypher
Feb 4, 2003
Well, I passed the Network+ Exam. It was a lot different than what I was expecting.

Time to start studying for the CCNA :unsmith:

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
Congrats! ICND1 has a fair amount of overlap with N+ so it's an easy transition.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Scheduled my PMP exam. I guess it's crunch time

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
Has anyone done the Master's program with WGU? Specifically Cybersecurity & Information Assurance?

I ended up talking to an enrollment counselor and I'm pretty sure I'm not going to try to get a 2nd Bachelor's, but I'm considering applying for the MS after I finish my CCNA.

Sypher
Feb 4, 2003

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Congrats! ICND1 has a fair amount of overlap with N+ so it's an easy transition.

Thanks!

I have heard that ICND1 has a huge focus on IP addressing, which I am extremely confident with. I am pretty excited to get a lab going, as I excel when it comes to hands-on learning.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

Sypher posted:

Thanks!

I have heard that ICND1 has a huge focus on IP addressing, which I am extremely confident with. I am pretty excited to get a lab going, as I excel when it comes to hands-on learning.

Like 50% of your questions will either directly be about subnetting, or will involve it. Get that down you've got a solid foundation (though don't skim the other stuff like OSPF and ACLs as they're focused on more in ICND2).

I liked this site http://subnettingpractice.com/ and if you have access to it, Keith Barker's CBTNuggets course on Subnetting is great.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Passed 410 woo. Skin of my teeth 768/1000 but hey every point after passing is time wasted studying

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Has anyone done the Master's program with WGU? Specifically Cybersecurity & Information Assurance?
Their Cybersecurity & Information Assurance just became a degree like a month ago so probably wont be too many people who've done it.

I know you'll get the EC-Council CEH and CHFI certs during the program though if that means much to you.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Is CEH vs OSCP a no contest in favor of OSCP when it comes to learning how to actually find and utilize exploits, or does CEH have something like that as well?

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Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
From what I gather the CEH "exam" is a lab environment that you break into. You must get the highest level admin prompt on the target machine by 'breaking through' multiple layers of a network, utilizing exploits at every step to move forward. I think if I remember correctly it's like an 8 hour exam.

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