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badpinions on guns and cash, is this he yospos prepper thread now
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Feb 29, 2016 20:07
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It's cool that you can buy a bunch of guns, fill out all the proper paperwork, then go sell them to people in a gun-free-city and even after the people you sell them to get arrested the source of their guns are never followed up on. You can use chip+pin to buy them I bet.
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Feb 29, 2016 21:09
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They should put the chip in the gun so we can find these fucktards and blow them to smithereens.
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Feb 29, 2016 21:12
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Powercrazy posted:It's cool that you can buy a bunch of guns, fill out all the proper paperwork, then go sell them to people in a gun-free-city and even after the people you sell them to get arrested the source of their guns are never followed up on. hosed up if true
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Feb 29, 2016 21:26
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Powercrazy posted:It's cool that you can buy a bunch of guns, fill out all the proper paperwork, then go sell them to people in a gun-free-city and even after the people you sell them to get arrested the source of their guns are never followed up on. I agree, guns should be banned
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Feb 29, 2016 22:21
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guns = legal lsd = illegal one kills people and one sets them free I guess it makes sense though coz one of the original listed problem effects of lsd was "challenging authority" whereas guns keep the populace fearful so yeah
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Feb 29, 2016 22:39
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Smythe posted:They should put the chip in the gun so we can find these fucktards and blow them to smithereens. imagine if the chip could be exploded remotely on both guns and credit cards enter your pin wrong more than 3 times and get your hand blown off 
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Feb 29, 2016 22:44
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:enter your firing pin wrong more than 3 times and get your hand blown off
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Feb 29, 2016 23:21
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echinopsis posted:guns = legal arguably both set you free
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Mar 1, 2016 03:39
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now that i have a chip card its p funny to notice just how many pos poses have a "chip reader inactive" sticker or just a big bundle of scotch tape over the slot
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Mar 1, 2016 14:31
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Do ATMs in the USA just make you swipe your card or do you need to insert kt?
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Mar 1, 2016 19:04
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Valeyard posted:Do ATMs in the USA just make you swipe your card or do you need to insert kt? there are both variants. Usually you have to insert them (like at a branch) but some ghetto lite atms that charge $3.00 or something in a bodega or taco shack are just swipe.
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Mar 1, 2016 19:10
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Smythe posted:there are both variants. Usually you have to insert them (like at a branch) but some ghetto lite atms that charge $3.00 or something in a bodega or taco shack are just swipe. Cool, I've seen loads of those "independsnt" machines and they are always skeevy as gently caress
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Mar 1, 2016 19:24
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Valeyard posted:Do ATMs in the USA just make you swipe your card or do you need to insert kt? most skeevy atms in chicago have switched to dip as well. you can tell a few of the new ones are starting to get chip readers added because they grab your card for a moment and then tell you to rip it out. getting the cadence of those things takes some practice
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Mar 2, 2016 01:16
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chip ATMs are cool + good
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Mar 2, 2016 03:10
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some early implementations of chip ATMs had lovely software that would prompt you for the "Application" you need to chose off the chip, which no one is going to know what to do with i've been presented with "VISA DEBIT" and "US DEBIT" because there is specific poo poo they had to do with US debit cards per the durban amendment
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Mar 2, 2016 03:11
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or just use cash. cash rarely confuses peoeple
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Mar 2, 2016 03:18
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mishaq posted:chip ATMs are cool + good no echinopsis posted:or just use cash. cash rarely confuses peoeple no
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Mar 2, 2016 03:32
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checking in from my local/favorite cash only bar in Chicago I'm sure I've floated a couple boat payments in atm fees to WAMI
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Mar 2, 2016 03:49
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just got a new debit card and made my first chip and sig transaction it was slow as baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalls
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Mar 2, 2016 04:12
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actually, they are.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:12
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Panty Saluter posted:just got a new debit card and made my first chip and sig transaction your POS is a POS
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Mar 2, 2016 04:12
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mishaq posted:your POS is a POS not my pos but i hope it is not representative of chipped cards in general
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Mar 2, 2016 04:14
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Panty Saluter posted:not my pos but i hope it is not representative of chipped cards in general it's definitely a little slower than swiping, but the terminals vary wildly in how they function, some are really bad stick the card in while the cashier is ringing poo poo up
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Mar 2, 2016 04:15
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this one was cashier operated so i didnt ahve much choice
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Mar 2, 2016 04:16
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why are they slower than swiping>?
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Mar 2, 2016 04:16
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Panty Saluter posted:why are they slower than swiping>? because its an actual computer chip on the card that has to be interacted with by the terminal it has to be powered on, boot up, and some back and forth information exchange occurs before even the authorization request/response goes out to the bank
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Mar 2, 2016 04:17
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mishaq posted:because its an actual computer chip on the card that has to be interacted with by the terminal  fuckin crazy, i guess i can understand and appreciate that
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Mar 2, 2016 04:32
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i mean it doesn't actually take that long to talk to the chip, it "boots" nearly instantly. generally the time is it connecting to the server and validating the transaction, or it's lovely weak hardware in the reader or something like that. i have a smart card that (this thread taught me!) uses the same technology that can do a signature in under a second so there's no real hardware limit on that end that's making them take a while, yet some of them manage to take 45 loving seconds (but others do it in like 2 seconds) 
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Mar 2, 2016 05:42
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mishaq posted:because its an actual computer chip on the card that has to be interacted with by the terminal Sounds like computers ruin everything. Can't wiat until I get malware on my chip. Also what is the advantage to me?
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Mar 2, 2016 05:50
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:i mean it doesn't actually take that long to talk to the chip, it "boots" nearly instantly. generally the time is it connecting to the server and validating the transaction, or it's lovely weak hardware in the reader or something like that. i have a smart card that (this thread taught me!) uses the same technology that can do a signature in under a second so there's no real hardware limit on that end that's making them take a while, yet some of them manage to take 45 loving seconds (but others do it in like 2 seconds) yep
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Mar 2, 2016 05:54
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all my chip+signature transactions outside the US are pretty drat quick because they've had chip terminals for a decade and they're all p. deecee poland got on the using cards for everything bandwagon a bit late so almost every terminal there has contactless payment, you can apple pay at no-name tiny rear end shops in the middle of nowhere
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Mar 2, 2016 05:56
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mishaq posted:all my chip+signature transactions outside the US are pretty drat quick because they've had chip terminals for a decade and they're all p. deecee I used one the other day that looked ancient as gently caress, and sure enough the whole thing took 30+ seconds. Which is crazy long. Normally will be done in 10 - 15 from card in to card out. Contactless is even better, like 3 seconds. I noticed something weird in an ATM recently though. After putting my 4 digit pin in they usually spin wheels while authenticating. I found one that took the pin and instantly returned control to me to withdraw, view balance etc. I tried to withdraw and then it told me I had put the wrong pin in, so it must just avoid doing the auth until you actually pick a specific action or it does it asynchronously
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Mar 2, 2016 14:36
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Valeyard posted:I used one the other day that looked ancient as gently caress, and sure enough the whole thing took 30+ seconds. Which is crazy long. Normally will be done in 10 - 15 from card in to card out. Contactless is even better, like 3 seconds. thats probably online vs offline authentication all us atms are online auth since we don't have chip+pin, so they behave like that, they don't check your pin until after you specify how much money you want etc
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Mar 2, 2016 15:08
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echinopsis posted:or just use cash. cash rarely confuses peoeple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlhWhuYCnH4
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Mar 2, 2016 15:16
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Valeyard posted:I used one the other day that looked ancient as gently caress, and sure enough the whole thing took 30+ seconds. Which is crazy long. Normally will be done in 10 - 15 from card in to card out. Contactless is even better, like 3 seconds. 10 seconds seems way longer than it normally takes for me. try counting next time you do it, it's quicker than you think
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Mar 2, 2016 18:24
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but enough about my sex life
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Mar 2, 2016 18:24
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echinopsis posted:or just use cash. cash rarely confuses peoeple 
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Mar 2, 2016 18:36
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Powercrazy posted:Also what is the advantage to me? when the retailer inevitably gets their information owned by bitcoin ransomers in the ukraine your credit card details don't get leaked
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Mar 2, 2016 23:09
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new idea for a skimmer: insert card and it punches a hole in it and steals your chip
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