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Ludwig van Halen posted:Most likely, but I'm of the opinion that that's for the courts to decide. Yes, obviously. ASSUMING THESE HYPOTHETICAL FACTS ARE ACCURATE AND TRUE Though it's not fiduciary duty but a violation of attorney ethics.
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If we let the courts decide every small dispute, and 149 dollars is loving tiny, then we'd never have time to sentence innocent black men to death.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:15
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euphronius posted:Yes, obviously. ASSUMING THESE HYPOTHETICAL FACTS ARE ACCURATE AND TRUE Really? I was pretty sure attorneys can try to convince clients to pay their attorney fees before the case is done.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:19
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euphronius posted:Yes, obviously. ASSUMING THESE HYPOTHETICAL FACTS ARE ACCURATE AND TRUE Ok, ethics, fair enough. I don't think he's knowingly trying to collect from me, like I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He probably just buys debt in bulk or whatever. But I know I've brought this up to him before. And I'm fairly certain that this other outfit won't sue me over $120, so I feel like jerking them around is a decent enough strategy to get out of paying. Worst case is I ignore them and they sell the debt to someone else.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:24
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Arcturas posted:Really? I was pretty sure attorneys can try to convince clients to pay their attorney fees before the case is done. This isn't for an attorney fee though. It's a medical debt that he's representing me for.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:25
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It will be reported on your credit report though. If you owe the money, why don't you want to pay? Are you too poor to pay? This is a serious question.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:34
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Is this a legitmate medical bill or a bullshit one? Did you attorney present this bill to get you paid?
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Mar 3, 2016 03:36
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Ludwig van Halen posted:Most likely, but I'm of the opinion that that's for the courts to decide. LOL
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Mar 3, 2016 03:40
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Let's be clear, no lawyer working on contigency is going to court over 120 bucks.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:41
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It would cost you $68.75 for me to field that phone call, dude. ghost edit:haha, i cant even calculate my own rate in my head.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:41
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:It will be reported on your credit report though. If you owe the money, why don't you want to pay? Are you too poor to pay? Nah, actually I think it's the opposite in my case. I'm well off enough that my credit score has so little effect on me that I can choose to pay if I want to.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:42
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blarzgh posted:It would cost you $68.25 for me to field that phone call, dude. Yes, of you pay hourly with cash up front a lawyer will fight over 120 bux all day.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:43
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blarzgh posted:It would cost you $68.75 for me to field that phone call, dude. He doesn't bill me since he took a way bigger cut than that of my settlement.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:44
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There isn't a JD in america that cares about the $29 you owe.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:47
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nm posted:Yes, of you pay hourly with cash up front a lawyer will fight over 120 bux all day. fastest way to get grieved. We call it "entrepreneurial litigation." second fastest is to keep working after the client keeps paying.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:48
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Ludwig van Halen posted:Nah, actually I think it's the opposite in my case. I'm well off enough that my credit score has so little effect on me that I can choose to pay if I want to. I don't think that's true at all, actually.
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Mar 3, 2016 03:53
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euphronius posted:There isn't a JD in america that cares about the $29 you owe. Just the one collecting it. 
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Mar 3, 2016 03:59
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:If we let the courts decide every small dispute, and 149 dollars is loving tiny, then we'd never have time to sentence innocent black men to death. The police have been cutting out the pesky middleman of the court system lately. It's more efficient and clears up the space for this dude to fight over $150!
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Mar 3, 2016 04:28
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HookShot posted:The police have been cutting out the pesky middleman of the court system lately. It's more efficient and clears up the space for this dude to fight over $150! I never said that I was taking it to court. Also I've left out the part where I spent 10 weeks in a hospital, half of that was in a coma. God Bless my health insurance company, they've paid probably close to $1 million on my behalf after adjustments and so forth. I'm fortunate to have such piddly bills, honestly. I'd be happy to pay my doctors and nurses many times the $150, but I don't feel a moral obligation to a debt collector.
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Mar 3, 2016 04:42
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I'm just having fun imagining some ultra-wealthy, bored lawyer who spends his days in court fighting pro-bono for $20 charges.
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Mar 3, 2016 04:49
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Dude, it is not worth your time or anyone else's to go to court over $150. Just pay it and put it behind you. I dunno if you're part of the idle rich or a debt collector killed your childhood dog or something, but this is not the hill that most people would choose to die on. Also, just because you're in a good position financially does not make you immune to bad credit. This: Ludwig van Halen posted:Nah, actually I think it's the opposite in my case. I'm well off enough that my credit score has so little effect on me that I can choose to pay if I want to. is not correct. If you don't pay your stupid tiny fine in good faith, it could seriously affect any kind of background check you might want to pass. IANAL, not legal advice, etc
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Mar 3, 2016 04:54
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Haha at this thread
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Mar 3, 2016 05:13
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I want to know how that lawyer ended up in personal injury and debt collection.
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Not a Children posted:Dude, it is not worth your time or anyone else's to go to court over $150. Just pay it and put it behind you. I dunno if you're part of the idle rich or a debt collector killed your childhood dog or something, but this is not the hill that most people would choose to die on. As I've said, I have no intention of going to court over this, and it's doubtful I'm going to be sued, so I'm dragging my feet. quote:is not correct. If you don't pay your stupid tiny fine in good faith, it could seriously affect any kind of background check you might want to pass. Could you clarify this? I'm not sure what you mean by background check. I'm aware that this affects credit checks, but when I think of background checks I think of criminal background checks. And when you call it a fine it sounds like you're suggesting that a court has awarded judgement against me, which this debt is not. This debt is only at the point where they've sent me a notice of the debt. Baxate fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Mar 3, 2016 |
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Mar 3, 2016 05:17
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I spent $200 on dinner the other night. I guess what I mean is just pay your bill so that poor lawyer doesn't starve.
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Mar 3, 2016 05:28
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In all fairness this issue could soon be moot in that the criminal case regarding my injury is still pending. At the very least I've been advised to not pay until after the criminal trial is settled. The trial might be this month, but it's already been pushed back several times, so who knows. The state's attorney is seeking restitution (or rather compensation?). The guy is charged with an aggravated DUI, so it's a fairly open and shut case. But the guy who hit me has no money, so unless his family chooses to pay me I probably won't get anything. After my conduct in the thread I'm not going to act like his family is obligated to pay me because they certainly are not. Or they might be better people than me and pay voluntarily? I'd be content offloading my debts onto this guy if I'm awarded court ordered compensation, but I don't think it works like that unfortunately. The debt technically would remain in my name, correct?
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Mar 3, 2016 05:50
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Just pay the $150 or whatever it is, dude. You're wasting time and energy worth way more than that.
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Mar 3, 2016 11:43
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Ah yes, the old "I know I owe you $50, but Broke Dave also owes me $50. Why don't you get it from Broke Dave?"
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Ah yes, the old "I know I owe you $50, but Broke Dave also owes me $50. Why don't you get it from Broke Dave?" "Well that'll never work, because I owe Broke Dave $50!"
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Whatever guys. The dudes a full time alcoholic who lives on social security so I looked into how restitution is enforced and in cases like this and they can garnish his social security benefits since he doesn't have a job or any assets. So this situation will work itself out. 
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Mar 3, 2016 15:34
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Thanks for teaching us lawyers about the law.
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Ludwig van Halen posted:The dudes a full time alcoholic euphronius posted:Thanks for teaching us lawyers about the law. I, too, assumed he was talking about the lawyer 
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Bad Munki posted:"Well that'll never work, because I owe Broke Dave $50!" If that is the case then everyone's debts should be extinguished assuming they are liquidated and presently due through the Napoleonic principle of compensation. [timg]http://i.imgur.com/NVWanBeh.jpg][/timg] Unless you are a common law brute then I don't know what to tell you.
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Mar 3, 2016 17:06
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There is a process in America for suspending collection of debts contingent to the settlement of related litigation
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Ludwig van Halen posted:Whatever guys. The dudes a full time alcoholic who lives on social security so I looked into how restitution is enforced and in cases like this and they can garnish his social security benefits since he doesn't have a job or any assets. So this situation will work itself out. You're gonna get like 40 bucks a week
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EwokEntourage posted:You're gonna get like 40 bucks a week Great now he can plan to pay his stupid $150 debt including that to the collectors working for the lawyer that already settled his $1000000 case but apparently should be conflicted out now over $25. Christ.
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Mar 4, 2016 03:51
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Sorry I'm confused. Can anyone explain why he doesn't just pay the small sum?
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are his debts going to be discharged if he dies from his alcoholism
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LeschNyhan posted:Great now he can plan to pay his stupid $150 debt including that to the collectors working for the lawyer that already settled his $1000000 case but apparently should be conflicted out now over $25. If by settled my case you mean sat on the sidelines while my health insurance paid everything, then yes. I don't really get the sympathy for the hard working debt collectors in this thread. Unless the lawyers here are running collection businesses on the side. Baxate fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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yeah, you're right, people shouldn't have to pay for things if they don't feel like it. loving jackass.
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