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Niton posted:It feels like I say this almost every cycle, but Investigate might be the dumbest.. ability? ability word? whatever the gently caress they call it that i've ever seen. "Investigate" is a keyword. 
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Mar 4, 2016 03:42
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As long as there's a card which says "Destroy target creature. Its controller investigates" it's a good mechanic. e: I'm curious what sorcery they're so scared of in standard that they need two extraction effects aimed at it.
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Mar 4, 2016 03:44
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Rinkles posted:Would there be a big uproar if future sets were no longer redeemable, but mtgo prices went down? I imagine the people receiving the absurd amounts of money that people spend on mtgo would be quite upset.
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Mar 4, 2016 03:46
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Puzzle room card: Abberant Researcher 3U 3/2 flying At the beginning of your upkeep, put the top card of your library into your graveyard, if it is an instant or sorcery, transform Abberant Researcher. 5/4 flyer on the other side. Would be a lot funnier if it had three sides and the first side was a 1/1 for U. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Mar 4, 2016 03:46
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"Sequels" to flip cards is a kindof cute idea.
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Mar 4, 2016 03:52
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Niton posted:It feels like I say this almost every cycle, but Investigate might be the dumbest.. ability? ability word? whatever the gently caress they call it that i've ever seen. Somehow I'm embracing the cheesiness with this one. I just can't bring myself to hate the Scooby-Dooness of it all.
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Mar 4, 2016 03:54
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Irony Be My Shield posted:As long as there's a card which says "Destroy target creature. Its controller investigates" it's a good mechanic. That's so perfect that now I'm going to be really angry if they don't do it.
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Mar 4, 2016 03:59
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Investigate is actually a keyword by the way. Ability words are different effects with a common trigger/theme, keywords are a single set effect. On the new cards: Aberrant researcher is actually a cool/good limited card, unlike delver. Won't break other formats either. Bygone Bishop has good french vanilla stats, so the delay on the card draw is a lot easier to stomach.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:00
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Investigate seems sort of bad but I feel like it's better than I'm giving it credit. It's a nice mana dump and the fact that they're artifacts doesn't seem like something to really take for granted.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:03
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think this got handed out at GP Melbourne too. the answer is canine
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Mar 4, 2016 04:08
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I'm  so:The art on that "Stitchers Lab" page is Laboratory Maniac (a card I love), Amass the Components(a card I like), and Stitcher's Apprentice (ehh). Maybe reprints? I'm gonna be kinda sad when they turn out to just be there for flavor. 
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Mar 4, 2016 04:08
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Ghirapur Aether-Grid will be in Standard alongside Investigate.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:11
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Bunch of good 2/3s for 3 recently (constructed and limited), though I'm not sure if it's actually a trend or if I just started paying attention.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:12
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Chamale posted:Ghirapur Aether-Grid will be in Standard alongside Investigate. Meh, you're not gonna be able to make enough of them. Thopters have been a thing in standard for year too.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:13
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Chamale posted:Ghirapur Aether-Grid will be in Standard alongside Investigate. And Whirler Rogue and the Helicopter Parents, too.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:15
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Thopters are a lot easier to kill than clue artifacts. I do think a decent investigate card or two could revive the Thopter Spy Network deck.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:18
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Sure it has some synergy but I think it's mostly just to be a flavorful cantrip variant or heralding the return to new phyrexia with affinity for artifacts coming back!!!
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Mar 4, 2016 04:22
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You'd need one or two more good repeatable effects. And it depends what colors investigate is in. If I had to guess I'd say it's WU with maybe a token card or two in other colors.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:23
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Yawgmoth posted:So it's a less good Lobotomy but costs 1 less. More like Coercion with a potential bonus Extraction effect. I'm a sucker for those so I probably like this card a little more than I should.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:24
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Mar 4, 2016 04:39
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Well that's a cool Madness enabler. If Bx Madness is a deck in limited this seems like a high pick. Turn 2 Heir, Turn 3 discard Fiery Temper to flip it and kill their 2- or 3-drop seems pretty legit. I wonder how quickly they realized it needed the "only once" clause in a Madness set? And I like the little story the flavour text on both sides tells. Everything about this set is looking cool so far.
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rabidsquid posted:The cheaper version is Magic Duels, which is not really Magic at all but that's what's happening so. Rinkles posted:Would there be a big uproar if future sets were no longer redeemable, but mtgo prices went down? Sickening posted:If they got rid of redemption and made mtgo cost competitive to hearthstone they might even make more money than they do now while growing interest in the paper side of things. Also gotta remember they'd be worried about obsoleting their own product in paper Magic. Would still totally draft this in a Madness limited environment. Only once kinda sucks but hey I get a 3/2 flyer AND a Madness trigger out of 1B? Sign me up baby.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:44
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A 3/2 flyer for 2 is a good deal and that's basically what you're getting if you have a reasonably costed madness effect to activate the turn after you play it. Pretty cool.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:49
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As much as I want to see some really really good madness cards, if any of them are free for any reason they could blow out formats. We've learned that free spells will always see play.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:50
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I'd be surprised if we see a card with Madness {0}. If they wanted to be really crazy and confuse people they'd print a card with a Madness cost of "discard a card".
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Mar 4, 2016 04:54
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Balon posted:As much as I want to see some really really good madness cards, if any of them are free for any reason they could blow out formats. We've learned that free spells will always see play. RIP Basking Rootwalla reprint On the other hand we could see a Big Game Hunter functional reprint (I don't think an actual reprint because Human Rebel Assassin seems out of place in an Innistrad set), Dark Withering, we know Fiery Temper is on the way and perhaps Grave Scrabbler or Brain Gorgers as they rather fits the theme. Turn 2 Heir of Falkenrath into turn 3 Brain Gorgers is a pretty OK agro play in my book. Or even turn 4 Heir hold up 1 and a B so you can Brain Gorgers sacing your Grave Crawler or having the option to pitch Dark Withering for their 4/5 drop is also pretty hot.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:00
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I think that heir is a card that has a chance of seeing standard play, although it is bad against removal and reflector mage
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Mar 4, 2016 05:06
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This is quite good.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:09
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Elyv posted:I think that heir is a card that has a chance of seeing standard play, although it is bad against removal and reflector mage You can build your deck around Madness effects much easier in constructed though. I wonder about Vampire tribal support as well given that we've got two mythic vampires already.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:10
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Angry Grimace posted:You can build your deck around Madness effects much easier in constructed though. Guess what is making a comeback in Randy Buhlers cube build post Shadows release 
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Mar 4, 2016 05:11
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Elyv posted:I think that heir is a card that has a chance of seeing standard play, although it is bad against removal and reflector mage It's not so bad against reflector mage since you can still recast it the next turn if it was flipped, and you're only going to put it in your deck if you can take advantage of the discard in some way.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:12
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The uncommons look pretty pushed so far.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:13
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Investigate is the coolest keyword and anyone who doesn't like it should get a clue. Bygone Bishop is an interesting twist on Mentor of the Meek, not working with tokens, but being a casting trigger and delaying the mana cost to drawing so it isn't a use-it-or-lose-it situation.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:21
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Entropic posted:Somehow I'm embracing the cheesiness with this one. I just can't bring myself to hate the Scooby-Dooness of it all. The whole thing makes me want to bring along little toy magnifying glasses to use as clue tokens.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:26
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Niton posted:It feels like I say this almost every cycle, but Investigate might be the dumbest.. ability? ability word? whatever the gently caress they call it that i've ever seen. A keyword action. e: Also this isn't the dumbest keyword action. That's monstrosity. Dr. Stab fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Mar 4, 2016 05:26
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GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:The whole thing makes me want to bring along little toy magnifying glasses to use as clue tokens. You gotta use the weapons from clue, there is no other real option.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:27
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Cactrot posted:You gotta use the weapons from clue, there is no other real option. I don't own a copy of Clue so I can't really use those. I will, however, pull out my pile of Clue Tokens from Arkham Horror for Pre-release. 
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Mar 4, 2016 05:34
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GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:The whole thing makes me want to bring along little toy magnifying glasses to use as clue tokens. The clue tokens from most Call of Cthulhu inspired board games are exactly this.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:39
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Has Basking Rootwalla ever "blown out" a format where the real culprit wasn't Survival of the Fittest nb: Being a strong card is not the same thing as blowing out a format
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Cernunnos posted:I'm Lab Man with Inverter of Truth = ???????
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