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NikkolasKing posted:But then Caius is obviously weaker than Bhunivelze so...what's the point? Caius is roughly as strong as Lightning who is stronger than Bhunivelze
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Dunno if I want to get into a serious discussion about FFXIII Power Levels but I'm pretty sure Bhunivelze is still the strongest thing in FFXIII. Lightning didn't actually manage to kill him. He just went away for a while. Plus Hope's HEART was loving everything up. B couldn't just erase her like he wanted to because LR started to steal from KH with Hearts and Nobdies and poo poo. I think so, anyway. That was the best I could make of it.
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Mar 3, 2016 13:14
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The strongest force in the Final Fantasy universe is you, the player
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Tempo 119 posted:Caius is roughly as strong as Lightning who is stronger than Bhunivelze No one is as strong as Lightning. She is the strongest of all things.
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Mar 3, 2016 13:41
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Actually I'm pretty sure Chocolina is the strongest Edit: Or maybe one of the Mandervilles? Saint Freak fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Mar 3, 2016 |
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So I have a question. I was bringing up my FFIX/FFXIII comparison to some other people elsewhere and naturally they disagreed because clearly FFIX is a masterpiece while FFXIII is a sin against mankind. Anyway, one of the things brought up was the "freedom' FFIX offered with its gameplay while XIII was so "restricted" and "easy." I of course pointed out that all that freedom in IX gave you ample ways to break the game and thus make it painfully easy. But it made me wonder... I can think of ways to break VII, VIII and IX. I'm sure there are plenty of tricks for the others but I haven't played them enough. But what about XIII? Once the Crystarium opens up, is there a way to just destroy everything? All I can think of is turtle farming via Vanille's Summon and Death but that's kind of a limited use thing. I can't think of anything of supreme utility like Auto-Haste/Auto-Regen or bouncing spells off a full Reflected party.
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Mar 3, 2016 16:41
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Nah, 13's balance is fairly tightly controlled until you get to Pulse. Even then, the Crystarium is fairly linear beyond poo poo like giving Fang RAV for Tri-Disaster which is less breaking and more just making the most of the mechanics. E:  "Once the Crystarium opens up". So, the second sentence I guess.
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Mar 3, 2016 16:44
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NikkolasKing posted:So I have a question. It's not till post game when you can grind out people's crystarium to absurd levels that you could crush enemies, but obviously the post game fights are balanced around it so you never really get to see a ball crushing party in the normal progression.
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Mar 3, 2016 16:48
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If you engage early in weapon upgrades you can numerically chump a lot of story bosses, but its not really any easier because early weapon upgrades are a resource sink with no real good way to grind it till later.
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Mar 3, 2016 16:58
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Upgrading the accessory that increases the amount of hp a potion restores is a good way to get ahead early in 13.
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NikkolasKing posted:But then Caius is obviously weaker than Bhunivelze so...what's the point? Caius never died but GOD IS DEAD
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dis astranagant posted:Isn't Earthshaker the only remotely reliable blue attack spell without resorting to Limit Glove and Frog Drop? You're right, I thought it was random damage like Twister.
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voltron lion force posted:Upgrading the accessory that increases the amount of hp a potion restores is a good way to get ahead early in 13. I've been here too long, when I saw the word "ahead" I immediately thought of that scene in Austin Powers where the guy gets his face eaten off by piranhas.
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NikkolasKing posted:Dunno if I want to get into a serious discussion about FFXIII Power Levels but I'm pretty sure Bhunivelze is still the strongest thing in FFXIII. Lightning didn't actually manage to kill him. He just went away for a while. Plus Hope's HEART was loving everything up. B couldn't just erase her like he wanted to because LR started to steal from KH with Hearts and Nobdies and poo poo. I think so, anyway. That was the best I could make of it. Final Fantasy 13: Lightning Returns With A Bag Of Stuff Stolen From Kingdom Hearts. The bag has an outline of a chocobo or Chocolina. I dunno.
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Mar 4, 2016 00:00
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Square-Enix has a sale on Steam including 50% off most FF stuff.
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The White Dragon posted:You're right, I thought it was random damage like Twister. It's also slightly stronger than the -agas. But you could be using limit glove so meh.
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Oh poo poo. Squeenix publisher sale. I'm guessing FF7 and FF8 are the only worthwhile ports?
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I wouldn't call FF8 serviceable (or at least it wasn't fixed like FFVII) without mods, and the XIII trilogy is fine if you think the base games are. Who the gently caress knows about Type 0
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VIII is fun and cool for about two discs and then less so.
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Mar 4, 2016 07:43
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Oh I mean the port. lovely midi audio, weirdness with controller support/bindings... Well actually that's about it but a good port should have neither.
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Mar 4, 2016 07:46
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As I recall, the Steam ports of FF13 series need some modding to work well, which is fine.
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I played FFXIII on PC and the only issue I found was the 1080p Libra text issue, so I wouldn't even say it needs mods.  E: VVV I played it in full screen and I don't remember that but whatever. Still a serviceable port that was neither VII or VIII. AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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AlphaKretin posted:I played FFXIII on PC and the only issue I found was the 1080p Libra text issue, so I wouldn't even say it needs mods. To this day, it still has a crash bug if you play it in fullscreen when you first get to the amusement park that they've never fixed.
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If you plan to play FFXIII on PC using a Bone-troller or other non-standard gamepad they used a proprietary technology to add gamepad support and anytime a tutorial text or save menu pops up the game stops receiving all inputs from the controller. This can be fixed by unplug->replug the controller but when you exit the menu it'll do the same thing or you can fix it by slamming a button on the controller a shitload of times in short succession every time you enter or exit one of these menus for reasons unknown to man. As has been mentioned, FFVIII basically demands you install the not-god-awful PC midi files if you want to enjoy one of the game's best features but outside of that the rest of the final fantasy games are functional ports or, more commonly, ports of ports.
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What is FFVII going for with this sale? I bought it around 2 or 3 in the morning yesterday for $11.99 when I got money and now I am vaguely irritated I might have spent a few more bucks than I had to. Not a huge deal but talk about lovely timing on my part, I guess. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Mar 4, 2016 09:39
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NikkolasKing posted:What is FFVII going for with this sale? I bought it around 2 or 3 in the morning yesterday for $11.99 when I got money and now I am vaguely irritated I might have spent a few more bucks than I had to. 6 bucks.
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Meh. I'll live without that 6 dollars. Thanks for the info, though. I can at least save on XIII-2. I want that for when I get a better PC next month. In the meantime, I can replay VII. Been over a year since my last run.
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Barudak posted:If you plan to play FFXIII on PC using a Bone-troller or other non-standard gamepad they used a proprietary technology to add gamepad support and anytime a tutorial text or save menu pops up the game stops receiving all inputs from the controller. This can be fixed by unplug->replug the controller but when you exit the menu it'll do the same thing or you can fix it by slamming a button on the controller a shitload of times in short succession every time you enter or exit one of these menus for reasons unknown to man. If you're not playing any other games and don't mind screwing around in the device manager, you can uninstall the standard Xbox Controller driver and replace it with the old Windows 8 beta driver they based their support on. It works for 13 and 13-2, just remember to switch back when you're done (uninstall the driver, plug the controller in and let Windows auto-install the normal version).
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Please play lightning returns, if you're on the fence anybody.
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So it looks like 13-1 still has an ungodly size requirement. Like, has there been ANY attempt to try and knock that down? But yeah, I might get the other two, with VII and VIII for shits. I'm guessing 3-6, After Years, 11, and Type-0 are way not worth it?
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widespread posted:So it looks like 13-1 still has an ungodly size requirement. Like, has there been ANY attempt to try and knock that down? But yeah, I might get the other two, with VII and VIII for shits. I'm guessing 3-6, After Years, 11, and Type-0 are way not worth it? Though you can't do it until after you've downloaded it on steam, I believe you can delete half of the cutscene files. Since the game has dual audio, and has two versions of every cutscene, one in Japanese and one in English, you can just delete the ones for the language you aren't going to play the game in.
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You could just uninstall it when you're done. Like yeah the game is big and it's unfortunate that they didn't optimize it, but just clear enough space for it for a bit of time, play the game, then you're done forever. If it was a multiplayer game or something that you'd maybe come back to, that would be a pressing issue to not buy it. But for a single player game that you usually will only play once in a blue moon, it's just a minor inconvenience for a problem they (mostly) learned to deal with better.
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In Training posted:Please play lightning returns, if you're on the fence anybody. Do I need to know anything about 13-2 before playing LR? I skipped that one.
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Xad posted:Though you can't do it until after you've downloaded it on steam, I believe you can delete half of the cutscene files. Since the game has dual audio, and has two versions of every cutscene, one in Japanese and one in English, you can just delete the ones for the language you aren't going to play the game in. So let me get this straight. I can still have English Menus but with Japanese cutscenes? I'm game. In Training posted:Please play lightning returns, if you're on the fence anybody.  Best item in the game coming through.
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triplexpac posted:Do I need to know anything about 13-2 before playing LR? I skipped that one. I think Sqeenix anticipated that issue so they made a 16bit summary of the games plot and put it in YouTube.
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triplexpac posted:Do I need to know anything about 13-2 before playing LR? I skipped that one. LR probably makes more sense the less you know about 13-2.
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widespread posted:So let me get this straight. I can still have English Menus but with Japanese cutscenes? I'm game. Yep! The cutscene language is completely independent of the text/subtitle language selected, so that's completely fine.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think Sqeenix anticipated that issue so they made a 16bit summary of the games plot and put it in YouTube. I think you gotta link that poo poo. Xad posted:Yep! The cutscene language is completely independent of the text/subtitle language selected, so that's completely fine. My word, I can't believe I'm voluntarily gonna buy the Lightning Fast
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