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Libertine posted:Suck it up and let him try and gank you top lane over and over and over. Your team should have the freedom to do stuff. Absorbing ganks top lane and surviving because you picked some real poo poo heel champion that is insufferably hard to kill or deal with at all is the purest essence of top lane. Yeah, that surviving bit is the one I'm still working on.  Thanks for the advice, y'all. It'll be an interesting experiment to see how focusing on Top/Mid plays out vs. focusing on Jungle/Support like prior years, suspect I'm probably going to end up lower ranked at the end of the day, but hopefully I can still maintain Silver.
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Mar 4, 2016 23:06
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Try queue as Support/Top. That's actually what I've been doing mostly when I've had time to play lately. Most of the best top lane champions right now end up playing essentially the same as hard engage supports who actually have a gold budget.
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Mar 4, 2016 23:11
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wodin posted:I've been learning top lane this season, and it's generally been a lot of fun. However, I really have no idea how to handle a strong ganking jungler getting up in my business. The thought is that I simply hang back near the turret and farm, but that feels like it puts my opponent too far ahead and I ultimately end up losing a lot of farm. It's made a little worse by playing Illaoi who needs to bully early, but still. Learn how to manage a wave so you can bully without pushing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy1SgaDlAB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XYUCsioJBQ
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Mar 4, 2016 23:15
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Etrips posted:Kayle is love. What site are you using for that? Also, Fervor does seem really legit on her, I think I might try her out too.
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Mar 4, 2016 23:19
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Libertine posted:Try queue as Support/Top. That's actually what I've been doing mostly when I've had time to play lately. Most of the best top lane champions right now end up playing essentially the same as hard engage supports who actually have a gold budget. I initially tried, but anything + Support just queues as Support 90% of the time, and I'm trying for new experiences this season since Dynamic Queue means I don't have to have a slapfight with my teammates every game to get the role I want.
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Mar 4, 2016 23:37
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if you want to play top and have fun, i recommend playing graves. he can shoot people in the face with a shotgun and he also excels at not dying
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Mar 4, 2016 23:42
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kingcobweb posted:gently caress what rabidsquid posted:That someone is Biowarfare so it's probably some sort of wizardry that only he has access to. not at all. one of my friends is learning how to code for the first time and wants to make something, so im helping him with it -- it's slow as poo poo and not production ready at all though Impotence fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Mar 4, 2016 23:52
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foutre posted:What site are you using for that? Triumph.gg
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exethan posted:try not to play the tentacle lady if at all possible I wonder what they could to to make her viable, what numbers need to change or what skill needs to be reworked. She just falls into that pit filled with niche CCless melee that don't quite have enough damage or tankiness to excel in most games, except unlike the others like Olaf with his CC immunity, true damage and endless Q chasing, she doesn't seem to have any skills that stick out as amazing, even the vessel is underwhelming for landing what would be the equivalent of a blitz or thresh hook.
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Mar 5, 2016 00:55
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Libertine posted:On this patch though that definition can apply to Nautilus, Malphite, Shen, Poppy, and Rammus. Obviously people's champion pools are rarely all of those things, but those things are certainly never all banned. Malphite is just the most obvious one to people who really want to Top Lane Yasuo. Yeah but of those, I'd argue Malphite has by far the strongest initiator of that batch, and is exceptionally easy to play and generally will endure better than those other dudes, so I ban him out often.
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Mar 5, 2016 01:14
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My laptop crashed so I've been playing normals a bit on a new PC trying to practice before going into ranked. This meta is my poo poo.
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Azzents posted:Do you remember what those stats said? I seem to get people who are much more chilled, and much more wins during mid morning compared to evenings, and I'm wondering if there's some weight behind that or if it's just confirmation bias. Mid morning crew checking in
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Mar 5, 2016 03:08
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So you guys said Top Nautilus is good so I tried it and got murdered by a Garen six times in the first 15 minutes and then lost the whole game half an hour later. So uh besides copying the champion.gg page builds+a zz'rot whats the secret to Winning with him.
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Mar 5, 2016 05:31
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http://www.twitch.tv/dauntevicknabb/ I am streaming, and while I guarantee the games will not be as exciting as my earlier double no nexus towers battle, I can guarantee you will see a lot of shamefully bad CSing for mid-plat Elo on the part of my teammates and wonder how you are stranded in Gold/Silver/Bronze.
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Mar 5, 2016 05:41
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Whitenoise Poster posted:So you guys said Top Nautilus is good so I tried it and got murdered by a Garen six times in the first 15 minutes and then lost the whole game half an hour later. You hug creeps and poo poo on him when he goes for CS. Don't bother attacking him if it's not in your creepwave and let him use his passive if need be. Shove every single wave to his turret and dive mid as soon as you have boots and some armour (if it's gankable of course.) Garen is a relatively bad champion to farm under turret with but definitely one of the worst champions to gank for, while Nautilus has some nice tools to escape ganks. You should be forcing their jungler to forever be toplane because the enemy toplaner is a whiny little bitch that's not used to standing under turret as Garen. If you have the right jungler (as in the right champ and skill as a player) you dive as soon as the enemy jungler shows somewhere else. Make sure you don't use your ult before Garen uses his runfast ability. TP botlane for kills and pressure because you're playing a champion that's useful when using TP, as opposed to Garen. Tilt their botlane this way, tilt Garen by making him hug his turret, tilt his midlaner by roaming while Garen's lasthitting, tilt his jungler for his begging for ganks but inability to contribute anything to them. Hth
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wodin posted:I've been learning top lane this season, and it's generally been a lot of fun. However, I really have no idea how to handle a strong ganking jungler getting up in my business. The thought is that I simply hang back near the turret and farm, but that feels like it puts my opponent too far ahead and I ultimately end up losing a lot of farm. It's made a little worse by playing Illaoi who needs to bully early, but still. illaoi is an outrageously bad top laner because of this. play a better champion or just... lose lots of cs i guess as for general top lane advice, do NOT do this 
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Mar 5, 2016 13:06
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i think illaoi can be an OK midlaner specifically against assassins. she can't usually be killed by their allins and can even turn them around and bait jungle ganks into getting double killed, and she can push the lane pretty well to force an opportunity cost for the assassin's roams she can't roam for poo poo herself though so there's that. and while Heimerdinger's much squishier he does the same thing better.
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Mar 5, 2016 15:38
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wodin posted:I've been learning top lane this season, and it's generally been a lot of fun. However, I really have no idea how to handle a strong ganking jungler getting up in my business. The thought is that I simply hang back near the turret and farm, but that feels like it puts my opponent too far ahead and I ultimately end up losing a lot of farm. It's made a little worse by playing Illaoi who needs to bully early, but still. poo poo tier here, but this by definition would not bother me a lot. If I were missing a little bit of CS or my opponent was getting a little more than me, but it was literally tying up two members of the opposing team to do it, I would consider that a win. Think of it this way, whatever CS your opponent laner is getting needs to be effectively split in two if it is coming because the jungle is sitting on lane camping.
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Mar 5, 2016 15:41
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Don't play illaoi, play Shen, bully cunts botlane, sunfire up all the farm, don't give a gently caress about ganks E: also with the added bonus of bullying hard if you don't lose lane. underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 15:43
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"I tried to pop him off, and then I realized that I was the one being popped off."
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Mar 5, 2016 15:50
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What exactly is the logic behind shoving your top opponent underneath their tower because I always thought it was advantageous to CS under your own tower since it prevents people from diving on you?
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Mar 5, 2016 16:19
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Lady Naga posted:What exactly is the logic behind shoving your top opponent underneath their tower because I always thought it was advantageous to CS under your own tower since it prevents people from diving on you?
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Mar 5, 2016 16:22
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Lady Naga posted:What exactly is the logic behind shoving your top opponent underneath their tower because I always thought it was advantageous to CS under your own tower since it prevents people from diving on you? Pushed people have a way harder time responding to the enemy laner roaming to kill your jungler, it's usually harder to cs and tower damage.
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Mar 5, 2016 16:22
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Plenty of jungler+top combos can dive with impunity so that's not much of an advantage, also a lot of champions have a hard time last hitting between tower damage and damage from your own minions.
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Mar 5, 2016 16:22
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When you are shoved under tower it is very easy to be dove on a gank. It's also harder to cs under tower for a lot of champions. Alsooooo if you have your opposing laner shoved under tower they can't respond to help out their jungler.
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Mar 5, 2016 16:25
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Lady Naga posted:What exactly is the logic behind shoving your top opponent underneath their tower because I always thought it was advantageous to CS under your own tower since it prevents people from diving on you? It denies farm and sets you up to dive or force an advantageous 2v2 countergank with your jungler. Or even just force enemy jungle attention top, there are a few toplaners who don't care about getting ganked early as long as they're drawing pressure away from other lanes. E: You especially want to push as hard as you can when there's a significant opportunity cost to ganking you, like if your team is in position to take dragon or are 4 man pressuring a different lane. Catgirl Al Capone fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 16:28
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Verviticus posted:illaoi is an outrageously bad top laner because of this. play a better champion or just... lose lots of cs i guess as for general bot lane advice, do NOT do this http://webm.land/media/j1QN.webm
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Mar 5, 2016 17:06
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League of Legends - it's terrible to be pushed under your own tower. It's terrible to shove the lane under their tower. It's terrible.
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Mar 5, 2016 17:34
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I tried to play lots of illaoi when she came out but she's bad. Her only gapcloser is w, and the range on it is pitiful. I can't really think of any situation where you can run in, w and ult on multiple people unless you're against a braindead team.
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Mar 5, 2016 17:36
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Well I finally broke my horrific losing streak and mostly carried the game 
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Mar 5, 2016 17:37
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I've been seeing Illaoi a lot lately. It makes it really easy to pick nasus and get to 600 stacks.
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Mar 5, 2016 17:40
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SlyFrog posted:League of Legends - it's terrible to be pushed under your own tower. It's terrible to shove the lane under their tower. It's terrible. a complicated cacophony of contextual conditions calcified by concurrent combinations, I coldly and condescendingly conjecture
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Mar 5, 2016 17:45
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I am contemplating playing Akali top is there anything I should do/know specifically with her?
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Mar 5, 2016 17:59
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Warlord's bloodlust is bonkers on ADCasters, it's up to 20% lifesteal on physical damage, not just autos.
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Mar 5, 2016 18:12
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Apparently tanky Akali is good now! Look up some youtube videos on how that works, it sounds fun.
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Illaoi seems reall good if the enemy is a bunch of bruisers so she can slap a bunch of them at the same time in her tentacle playground. I'm not sure how useful that niche is or how likely it is to turn up right now, but there you go.
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