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Gort posted:Big loving Pandemic Legacy spoiler from a bunch of the way in: Pandemic Legacy spoilers through September. That was a really awful twist. Story wise it was fine, but it made us lose our most used and most-upgraded character (Quarantine Specialist) with absolutely no warning or way to avoid it. I know this is a board game and not an RPG, but they share several elements. This is basically your DM saying "roll d4 to see which one of you instantly dies". I'd never play with that DM again. There are much better ways to introduce risk, surprise and loss. In addition, we had already completed two secondary objectives and were very close to curing all of the diseases. Oh, except tear up the objective you've already met, and here's another one that may be impossible to complete if you didn't know you were supposed to save your Military Base city cards. When the twist happened, we went from a fairly confident victory to being mathematically eliminated. I feel like it was a really poor design decision to spring both of those twists mid-session, rather than between months. Everyone at the table was really bummed out, but we kept playing despite realizing that the game had become impossible to win. All we could do was watch the board deteriorate, and we didn't feel like it was any fault of ours (unlike our previous two losses). When we ran into an unavoidable CODA chain outbreak, we decided to call the game with 5 cards left in the player deck. So I guess we technically cheated, but given the mood at the table by that point, I think the alternative was not finishing the season, ever. It left a really bad mark on an otherwise great game. I'm sure other people enjoyed the September twist, but it very nearly ruined the game for my group.
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3749371 please please. The thread exists solely so we don't have PL spoiler tags in this thread.
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Mar 4, 2016 21:56
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silvergoose posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3749371 please please.
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WhiteHowler posted:Sorry, didn't even know it existed. I'll move my ranting over there. No problem. Just trying to edumacate.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:04
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ya know, I like SUSD, but i think i've gotten my fill of quinns. he seems like a nice enough guy but does he have to be in every single video they put out this year save for the 504 review?
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Mar 4, 2016 22:20
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I was going to say, Star Wars: Rebellion looked potentially like a tabletop version of Empire at War and that excited me. But since SU&SD like it, I assume that means it's actually poo poo? Edit: Please stop calling it the Danger Egg, Quinns. It was only slightly funny the first time you said it.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:34
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LordZoric posted:I was going to say, Star Wars: Rebellion looked potentially like a tabletop version of Empire at War and that excited me. But since SU&SD like it, I assume that means it's actually poo poo? Can we stop posting this constantly? They're like 50/50 with the goon hive mind, and the videos are usually good enough for you to make your own opinion. On top of that, the game is not out yet so how can we possibly know?
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MrDru posted:ya know, I like SUSD, but i think i've gotten my fill of quinns. he seems like a nice enough guy but does he have to be in every single video they put out this year save for the 504 review? I will take a thousand Quinns vids if it means 1 less Matt vid
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LordZoric posted:I was going to say, Star Wars: Rebellion looked potentially like a tabletop version of Empire at War and that excited me. But since SU&SD like it, I assume that means it's actually poo poo? I think it's a direct call out to the older "rebellion" pc 4x game that empire at war is also based on. Incidentally both empire at war and rebellion are in the current humble bundle. Rebellion is extremely good despite its incredible jank levels and is on the $1 tier, so worth checking out if you liked empire at war.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:46
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I loved Empire at War. I have fond memories of trolling the Empire player constantly by snatching worlds out from under him in the middle of building big things. The expansion pack was almost impressive at how broken the third faction it introduced was.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:53
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It is extremely close to the old rebellion game, yeah. Had the same hero concept, hidden rebel base mechanics, and some other stuff like how the heroes are used.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:59
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That's what I've heard and why I was interested enough to jump on the csi preorders discount a while back.
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facepalmolive posted:Oh hey there Quid. Hi! And Nice! I don't own any of these, and I definitely will look into Tash-Kalar. We both love Vlaada. I think now that she's, like, got the bug, I think she'll be into Dungeon Lords and Galaxy Trucker. Gonna see about getting those to the table soon, maybe some Castles of Burgundy too..... So many games~
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LordZoric posted:I was going to say, Star Wars: Rebellion looked potentially like a tabletop version of Empire at War and that excited me. But since SU&SD like it, I assume that means it's actually poo poo? He actually seems lukewarm on it and has what looks like legitimate analysis of various mechanics and how those will affect your experience. Yeah some of their reviews are trash, and they seem to like to suck Plaid Hat's cock, but there really didn't seem to be anything wrong with this review. The only thing I'm left wondering is how on earth you could make this a 4 player game, and whether or not that aspect of it was tacked on at the last moment to sell more copies, which is what I suspect.
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Big McHuge posted:He actually seems lukewarm on it and has what looks like legitimate analysis of various mechanics and how those will affect your experience. Yeah some of their reviews are trash, and they seem to like to suck Plaid Hat's cock, but there really didn't seem to be anything wrong with this review. The only thing I'm left wondering is how on earth you could make this a 4 player game, and whether or not that aspect of it was tacked on at the last moment to sell more copies, which is what I suspect. https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/2/29/im-with-you-too/ You're probably right.
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Played some games with 2 players this evening: 1) Glass Road What a great game. It is everything I hoped it would be. Interesting choices and the card play to generate resources is a ton of fun. And all that in an hour. Really great game. Looking forward playing it with 4 players. 2) Inhabit the Earth Holy poo poo is that a thinky game. It looks so cute and stuff but the choices and decisions you have to make are kind of overwhelming. It was our first playthrough and I think it will get better with repeated plays. Loved it and I hope I can get it to the table more often and with more players. 3) San Juan I like it. It's nothing special but I found it to be a really relaxing little card game. I can see it as an opening game to a longer gaming session.
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AMooseDoesStuff posted:https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/2/29/im-with-you-too/ The team mechanics look a bit clunky. It might develop into an interesting metagame but that's probably group dependent which isn't a great selling point.
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Food Chain Magnate is really good. We were all sort of unconvinced during the Intro game (which we stopped midway through), but now that we're a few turns into a real game, everything is fitting together and making sense. We've all taken different openings; while I'm sure eventually our early plays will settle into some ruts, the game just seems really open and ready to reward all sorts of different play. I was concerned that the ads and production and distances and everything would be fiddly, but it actually resolves out really clear. And it plays reasonably fast too because many of the decisions are made during the simultaneous play part, and you can pre-plan your turn fairly well (it really helps that marketing sort of "lags" a turn, meaning you don't have to think through every possible marketing play the last player could make). And thanks to whoever posted the "folded paper rack in box" trick. Just took a minute to do, and makes the employee cards a lot easier to manage. Our work group just recently got FCM, Twilight Struggle, and Keyflower - and at home I've got a group playing Pandemic Legacy; what a good time to be into board games.
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Quidnose posted:Hi! And Nice! I don't own any of these, and I definitely will look into Tash-Kalar. We both love Vlaada. I think now that she's, like, got the bug, I think she'll be into Dungeon Lords and Galaxy Trucker. Gonna see about getting those to the table soon, maybe some Castles of Burgundy too..... Oh, I thought we were only suggesting games you don't have yet (which is why I didn't bring up Race for the Galaxy, Twilight Struggle, etc.). Bit of warning about Dungeon Lords at 2 -- I own the game and I've only played one game at 4, but I've read it doesn't play that great at 2. I haven't tried it, but their AI player implementation doesn't sound terribly fun or interesting. The manual definitely recommends that you play your first couple games at 4, though.
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DL is fun with 2 but definitely not as good as 4. You do get a bit of control over your AIs, though, unlike 3.
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MrDru posted:ya know, I like SUSD, but i think i've gotten my fill of quinns. he seems like a nice enough guy but does he have to be in every single video they put out this year save for the 504 review? My wife can't watch SUSD. She just gets so pissed off at Quinns' mannerisms.
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The SW Rebellion review was pretty informative (and has nudged me into 'not buy' because I appreciate good combat and the game seems to have lovely combat), but it was also unfunny as hell. Like painfully unfunny. Like 'knizia space attack' unfunny.
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Tekopo posted:The SW Rebellion review was pretty informative (and has nudged me into 'not buy' because I appreciate good combat and the game seems to have lovely combat), That sucks, if I was gonna get a huge grand strategy game that had cool theme but lovely combat my hipster impulses force me to go for Virgin Queen
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OmegaGoo posted:*sets thread on fire*
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Just get Mage Wars and save the $150
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Bottom Liner posted:Just get Mage Wars and save the $150 Works for me! (I already have Mage Wars)
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game is different, better than mage wars. burn mage wars and buy this game.
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I bought in, because the kickstarter deluxe edition yanked at my filthy storage kink until I submitted. But a sane person will just wait for the retail release. You can download a PNP starter set here for free, though. Or buy any of the full-faction PNP sets here for  each See if it turns any cranks for you.
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I sincerely hope there are extra copies of the Deluxe version after it comes out because I'll probably have more money then than I did now and I'd just end up buying all the individual sets anyway and be mad I didn't get sick playmats and binders
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bobvonunheil posted:My wife can't watch SUSD. She just gets so pissed off at Quinns' mannerisms. count your blessings. my girlfriend thinks he's cute.
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Picked up Fields of Arle based on the generally glowing reviews here and just finished my first solo game. Really chill game. My first moves took me forever to choose - you just have so many options. Eventually figured out what I wanted to do and ended up with a score of 94.5. I really want to give it a try with someone else. My only complaint is how much of a pain in the rear end cleanup is.
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Finally played Pax Pamir tonight. I had a pretty good setup to win in two regimes and my buddy stumbled rear end backwards into victory via economic boom because he had an impact card in his hand when I mentioned that was the regime he could win in. It took a while to get going but when it picked up it got good. Kind of hard to make any judgments after one play but I thought it was pretty cool. Then we played Venture which is one of my Sid Sackson games that I bought out of curiosity and interest in his place in boardgaming history. It has a really neat set collection aspect, buying corporations with various color and letter combinations, but you draw money cards from a deck which is really underwhelming compared to a lot of modern games. I think it's fun but it has some balance problems. It could be great with a modern update. My same friend won although he definitely earned that one.
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cenotaph posted:Finally played Pax Pamir tonight. I had a pretty good setup to win in two regimes and my buddy stumbled rear end backwards into victory via economic boom because he had an impact card in his hand when I mentioned that was the regime he could win in. It took a while to get going but when it picked up it got good. Kind of hard to make any judgments after one play but I thought it was pretty cool. I also got my first game of this in tonight. It was a bit odd because no one took Afghans off the start (4p game) and the two British players conspired to militarily dominate. The game was won on the second topple on a triple tiebreaker spy by a player who wasn't even loyal to the dominating empire. There's a lot to consider, but it's a fun game.
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First game of FCM. 4 players, I finished with $610, next closest was $210. I posted 330 bucks on one sale in the final round. I had the person who adds +10 to a unit price, and was the only person able to fill a 4 beer, 1 pizza garden house. That's 200 dollars base, then 20 on top (+5 to every drink order filled), then another 110 for CFO bonus. Overall everyone really enjoyed it and we were all able to identify some things that we'd do different on our next playthrough. There were some excellent back-stabbing moments though, and some surprise miscalculations that were pretty entertaining as well.
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T-Bone posted:I also got my first game of this in tonight. It was a bit odd because no one took Afghans off the start (4p game) and the two British players conspired to militarily dominate. The game was won on the second topple on a triple tiebreaker spy by a player who wasn't even loyal to the dominating empire. There's a lot to consider, but it's a fun game.
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It's interesting that going over the tableau limit can be useful if only to discard a card to send enemy spies back. The special action combo chaining off of multiple regime changes is pretty cool too.
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T-Bone posted:It's interesting that going over the tableau limit can be useful if only to discard a card to send enemy spies back. The special action combo chaining off of multiple regime changes is pretty cool too. Yeah, the Afghan player moved a spy onto one of my cards with an Afghan loyalty prize so I just played over my tableau size and discarded the card. It's also fun to grab a card from the market just for rupees and/or a garrison impact and then just let it die. We didn't have the opportunity for any regime change combos but I can see how that will be beneficial.
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Phew, the Glass Road app is out and it's ugly and clunky and makes it actively not fun to play. Such a shame.
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COOL CORN posted:Phew, the Glass Road app is out and it's ugly and clunky and makes it actively not fun to play. Such a shame. So when will your physical copy arrive?
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Selecta84 posted:So when will your physical copy arrive? I didn't order it on account of there being an app! But it's a fun game, even if the app is a pain. I may order it eventually, but my birthday money is all spent for now 
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