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Arcsquad12 posted:I often find myself skim reading the terminals in Fallout 4, whereas in New Vegas I devoured them whenever I found one. The writing in so many FO4 ones is just dull. Which is funny because terminals took a huge step down from Fallout 3 to New Vegas. I thought 4 was more a return to form.
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I thought the mission the Railroad (or Brotherhood?) gives you to recover technology from the abandoned settlement that was destroyed by the institute over the old tech the girl found has a pretty compelling story told only through terminals. Did FO3 or FNV have so many terminals that just repeat something on another terminal? It does make me want to skip terminals as the game goes on because I just get tired of reading terminals constantly.
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Mar 4, 2016 17:21
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I really enjoyed the writing about the two raider gangs, one of whom captured the sister of the other gangs leader.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Do you skip every terminal entry in the game? This isn't just a FO4 thing either, those have been used for giving you an idea of what's going on and what everyone's backstories, agendas, etc are in both FO3 and FONV. Read some but skipped over lot. If they are going to hide the plot in text and not bother, why should I bother trying to find it? Weak, flimsy dark souls logic there.
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Deified Data posted:Which is funny because terminals took a huge step down from Fallout 3 to New Vegas. I thought 4 was more a return to form. I'd argue this is their best work, as far as terminal entries go. Its tough to compare to all the books you find in TES games, but I'd say its comparable if not better, taking into account that TES gets to reuse a lot of its lore from game to game. Tenzarin posted:Weak, flimsy logic here. Agreed.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Do you skip every terminal entry in the game? This isn't just a FO4 thing either, those have been used for giving you an idea of what's going on and what everyone's backstories, agendas, etc are in both FO3 and FONV. You definitely have the option of talking to her about it when she mentions it, you'd have to be playing the game alt-tabbed or in a completely different room to miss it.
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Mar 4, 2016 19:03
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Magmarashi posted:You definitely have the option of talking to her about it when she mentions it, you'd have to be playing the game alt-tabbed or in a completely different room to miss it. Ok, I thought so but it's been a while since I did that part.
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Yeah the only reason I even noticed her legs were missing is because there was a conversation with her about it. There's a lot of things this game could do with being held accountable for, so it's pretty amazing how you keep glossing over the things it actually does bother to do.
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Tenzarin posted:Read some but skipped over lot. If they are going to hide the plot in text and not bother, why should I bother trying to find it? It's not so much plot as it is world building and humor. You get a lot of backstory about the lead up to the war from the terminals, as well as mini stories about the areas you are in from people writing entries into the terminals. Some of my favorite parts of Fallout are exploring the vaults and reading the terminals left behind by the residents.
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Mar 4, 2016 20:06
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Ron Jeremy posted:I really enjoyed the writing about the two raider gangs, one of whom captured the sister of the other gangs leader. I really wish they'd done more with this. Actually That could pretty much be the thread title.
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Davoren posted:Yeah the only reason I even noticed her legs were missing is because there was a conversation with her about it. Why wouldn't somebody just stimpak her???
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SyHopeful posted:Why wouldn't somebody just stimpak her??? She was clearly playing in ultra-survivor mode.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:13
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WAR FOOT posted:I really wish they'd done more with this.  I think everyone who plays this game spends 5 minutes trying to figure out of they missed something the first time they encounter the Combat Zone or Easy City Downs, because they couldn't possibly just be generic raider dens that auto-aggro like all the others.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:14
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Always wanted to play with limb destruction not being fatal.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I really enjoyed the writing about the two raider gangs, one of whom captured the sister of the other gangs leader. The raider terminals were pretty great in general, especially when they had entries about you wiping out rival raider strongholds.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:44
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I recently got an Xbox One and have been playing this. I've also recently realized I'm a god drat moron because I didn't realize you could pick other skills to learn other than the ones on the top rows. I thought you had to hit a threshold before the lower ones open up. Good news is I almost have the entire top row maxed out.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:45
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Joey Freshwater posted:I recently got an Xbox One and have been playing this. What is VANS like?
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Tenzarin posted:What is VANS like? what
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Mar 4, 2016 22:51
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I've always wondered what VANS looked like as well.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:59
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It's just a green line to your destination
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Mar 4, 2016 23:01
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It's exactly the same as the clairvoyance spell in Skyrim.
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Joey Freshwater posted:I recently got an Xbox One and have been playing this. I literally did this exact thing.
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I didn't fill up on the early skills but I spent way too long trying to figure out how to scroll down the thing.
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Joey Freshwater posted:I recently got an Xbox One and have been playing this. The top row as in stats?
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Joey Freshwater posted:I recently got an Xbox One and have been playing this. This is the first fallout i've played and it took me 25 levels to figure this out. You aren't the only one.
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Mar 5, 2016 04:47
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This is the first game using this perk system, willing to bet it was a common issue.
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Y'all must have rolled with 6 charisma because the first thing I did was bumrush Chr to get the local leader perk.
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Mar 5, 2016 06:45
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Charisma was my dump stat, for the first time in any Fallout game.
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WAR FOOT posted:Charisma was my dump stat, for the first time in any Fallout game. Did you not play Fallout 1, 3 or New Vegas?
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Eh, they all had Speech checks that those few extra points helped for. In FO4, speech is just for 150/200/250 caps for completing a mission, and the majority of companions dislike you doing so.
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Yeah but you could upgrade speech with skill points when you leveled up, so there was no bonus to wasting a bunch of special points on it. Charisma at 1 is the most basic rule of FNV and FO3. Compared to now where you need charisma to build stores to buy all your water. FO4 doesn't really have a dump stat. You need at least 3 in everything.
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Volkerball posted:Yeah but you could upgrade speech with skill points when you leveled up, so there was no bonus to wasting a bunch of special points on it. Charisma at 1 is the most basic rule of FNV and FO3. Compared to now where you need charisma to build stores to buy all your water. FO4 doesn't really have a dump stat. You need at least 3 in everything. You don't need stores at all. You don't need one to finish the game.
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Ron Jeremy posted:You don't need stores at all. You don't need one to finish the game. Yeah, but it still makes it a hell of a lot easier to buy cool poo poo and make money, which makes it way more valuable than anything charisma in FNV or FO3 had to offer. And lone wanderer is still a good perk if you're doing a run where you don't care about settlements.
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Volkerball posted:Yeah but you could upgrade speech with skill points when you leveled up, so there was no bonus to wasting a bunch of special points on it. Charisma at 1 is the most basic rule of FNV and FO3. Compared to now where you need charisma to build stores to buy all your water. FO4 doesn't really have a dump stat. You need at least 3 in everything. I've been getting along great as a sniper/ninja with 1 strength and 1 endurance. Unless you're doing a pain train build 1 end is arguably the best thing you can do for a character.
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Filthy Casual posted:I've been getting along great as a sniper/ninja with 1 strength and 1 endurance. Unless you're doing a pain train build 1 end is arguably the best thing you can do for a character. On what difficulty? Lifegiver is really, really nice to have on higher ones.
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Last playthrough I noticed how often the traders show up at Sanctuary hills, really lowers how good the store is. You can also hit up the diner and bunker hill for fast trading. End is basically useless also. Luck is only really good if you use vats, if you dont then luck is pointless. Agi is only really needed for vats, stealth, melee-vats. Per is just for vats also. If your never use vats you can drop a poo poo ton of the stats. The perk system in general is kinda boring now. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Volkerball posted:Yeah but you could upgrade speech with skill points when you leveled up, so there was no bonus to wasting a bunch of special points on it. Charisma at 1 is the most basic rule of FNV and FO3. Compared to now where you need charisma to build stores to buy all your water. FO4 doesn't really have a dump stat. You need at least 3 in everything. There is no real reason to get anything more than a 1 in END. None of the perks are necessary and it isn't hard to survive even on Survival with the lowered HP as long as you have some kind of strategy like stealth/power armor/excessive VATS use.
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One endurance means you don't get aquagirl though.
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Common Sensei posted:There is no real reason to get anything more than a 1 in END. None of the perks are necessary and it isn't hard to survive even on Survival with the lowered HP as long as you have some kind of strategy like stealth/power armor/excessive VATS use. I guess if you sneak absolutely all the time, or use power armor all the time, you might get away with 1 END. Other that these two extremes, I dare anyone to do Survival with 1 END. Besides, like all Bethesda games, sneaking is weak until you get the "run and sneak" perk.
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Nasgate posted:One endurance means you don't get aquagirl though. Yeah, that one is surprisingly nice. It's annoying as hell to constantly have a little sliver of radiation poisoning because you ran through a puddle after your last shot of radaway.
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