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BULBASAUR posted:Tell me more! I haven't read the new book. Dude, the new Ironfire rite is awesome. It is characterful as gently caress while handing out solid bonuses for a fair amount of risk. It doesn't alter the FOC at all, but it doesn't need to.
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BULBASAUR posted:Tell me more! I haven't read the new book. Iron warriors are probably still better. Dw
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Mar 6, 2016 08:33
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I think he means story wise because other than the RoW they havnt changed a drat thing. (I want to try it though)
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Mar 6, 2016 08:46
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Does the Day of Revelation RoW +1 I bonus only apply to things with LA (BA) or does it work on dreads?
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Mar 6, 2016 08:53
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Just got back from the Aus Brisbane 30k Event Brothers Revenge. Was a casual doubles event 850pts per army, nice quick easy format! Everyone had an insanely good time and ALL the armies were painted which was such a fantastic effort and looked amazing. I just got my Dark Angels painted in time but book 6 wasn't in effect so just ran as generic. I will put up another post with pics of all the amazing tables with FAT mats and full of terrain soon. In the meantime this was what my game partner and I ran with  
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BULBASAUR posted:Tell me more! I haven't read the new book. Cassian Dracos reborn leads some Salamanders around based on weird visions he has, eventually they arrive at Mezoa and get attacked by an invading force of Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion. The AL commander is an rear end in a top hat letting the IW suffer as meat shields to avoid AL casualties, so Cassian takes this opportunity to talk to the IW commander. The IW rejoin the loyalist side and they team up with the Salamanders to gently caress up the alphas real good, and henceforth they are brosefs 4 lyfe.
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That's awesome as hell, actually. IWs being meat shields for Alphas and then for Salamanders. Meat is love, meat is lyfe.
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Mar 6, 2016 21:56
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It's a bunch of that, and a bunch of bearing the brunt of the shadow wars since they have SO MANY GARRISONS, and have "become experts at countering such attacks" So they get a -1 on the shadow wars initiative roll off. It's the best page really, gives a short rundown of what each legion is doing. 
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Mar 6, 2016 22:04
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Do that for Sons of Horus please and thank you.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:14
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It's a good thing I'm a terrible employee that keeps book 6 in his car.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:31
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New FW bulletin, more thousand sons coming soon as the artist, Israel, mentioned (April).
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Hencoe posted:It's a good thing I'm a terrible employee that keeps book 6 in his car. Neeeeat. What's it say about Death Guard?
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Mar 7, 2016 15:45
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Might as well post both pages 
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Mar 7, 2016 18:42
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Hencoe posted:Might as well post both pages Thanks! FW should include timeline updates like these in all the books, a la Battletech Era Updates/Field Manuals. Though I guess most of the red books so far have focused on isolated conflicts so it might not have made sense to include them in all.
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Mango Polo posted:New FW bulletin, more thousand sons coming soon as the artist, Israel, mentioned (April).  (poo poo looks dope)
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For smaller FW pieces like shoulder pads do you guys soak them in soapy water before or after you remove them from the resin block they come attached to?
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DO IT TO IT posted:For smaller FW pieces like shoulder pads do you guys soak them in soapy water before or after you remove them from the resin block they come attached to? I've found them to be a lot easier to clean while still attached to the resin block they're cast with. I've tried both methods and that just seems like less wasted effort.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:49
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Safety Factor posted:I've found them to be a lot easier to clean while still attached to the resin block they're cast with. I've tried both methods and that just seems like less wasted effort. Cool, that's what I was thinking while looking at these things. Seemed like it'd be annoying to scrub them while having to hold onto them. I'll leave them on the block for now.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:44
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Hey guys, I currently play Guard in 40K, if I was to look at Solar Auxiliaries, in terms of foot troops, would I be looking at a horde style army again, or are the 'typical' Solar Auxiliary armies smaller like other 30K forces? Cheers!
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SA are a mechanized human army with lots of armor. Your basic squad is x20 dues and assault squads are x10 dudes. You'll probably have 40-50 troops in your entire army. Militia are more the imperial horde where your basic levy squad of 60 bodies costs less than 100 points. Most 30k forces are pretty large actually. Blobs of 15-20 are pretty common and you can expect to see somebody with a pair of those in more casual settings.
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While the levy squads can be 20 to 50 dudes, the actual WS3/BS3 militia guys are 20 guys to a squad. Militia units also come with really lovely guns that can be upgraded to a number of different options including the normal lasgun or even S4 laslocks. With the various provenances (more or less doctrines) you can customize your militia army to be the remnants of an advanced human civilization with genetic enhancements and better armor and weapons or make them a demon-worshipping barbarian/squat/scrunt/horrible mutant horde. It's a cool list, but lacks for some basic things like reasonable dedicated transports. Is the regular, ol' Imperial Army ever going to get rules or are you intended to represent them with the militia list? I realize they'd likely end up as slightly different Imperial Guard, but I'm just curious.
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Safety Factor posted:Is the regular, ol' Imperial Army ever going to get rules or are you intended to represent them with the militia list? I realize they'd likely end up as slightly different Imperial Guard, but I'm just curious. There is no singular Imperial Army force in 30k. The Imperial Army as an organization is equal parts Solar Auxilia, Imperial militia, and the like. In the books, Imperial Army forces are incredibly diverse and that's not even talking about the serf-armies from Astartes-controlled worlds that take the field alongside their rulers, like the Spireguard from Prospero and the armies of Ultramar. The formation of a singular Imperial Guard with a standardized roster and capabilities was a response to the Heresy and the shattering of the Imperial Army. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 03:21
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Neat! Thanks, that's helpful.
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I've heard that there will be an Imperial Army list in the future. SA are basically elite human explorers. Militia are high customizable planet or system forces with lots of bodies and less armor. Scuttlebutt puts the IA somewhere between the two.
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I'll probably not be starting my 30K army until the new year, at least until I wrap this army up - and I like the idea of slightly more elite force, with 90+ infantry in this army and 14 odd Chimeras, I could do with something a bit smaller. Not sure yet, but I appreciate the heads up.
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Safety Factor posted:I've found them to be a lot easier to clean while still attached to the resin block they're cast with. I've tried both methods and that just seems like less wasted effort.  Why... Why haven't I been doing it like this? I have a bowl filled with MkIII bodies, command upgrades, and special weapons I just chopped off the sprues today.
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Got suckered back into Warhams by the promise of 30K and low point values. Signed up for a 750pt Zone Mortalis Loyalists vs Traitors event but don't have a list picked out, so for now I'm just building up a troop base. Painting this weekend.
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oh Christ
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Ville Valo posted:Got suckered back into Warhams by the promise of 30K and low point values. Signed up for a 750pt Zone Mortalis Loyalists vs Traitors event but don't have a list picked out, so for now I'm just building up a troop base. Painting this weekend. Looks good but before starting I strongly advise you to pull the backpacks off and paint them separately.
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Yeast posted:oh Christ "Make The Imperium Great Again"
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krursk posted:Looks good but before starting I strongly advise you to pull the backpacks off and paint them separately. Huh, I was going to go pretty simple on the backpacks; I've been watching some of Apathetic Fish's youtube series on painting Betrayal at Calth models and he's always got the packs on. If they come off easily I'll try it; I'm a little wary of trying to pry anything off resin.
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Would it be kosher if I were to use the 40k sanguinary guard models as assault sergeants in my BA army?
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DJ Dizzy posted:Would it be kosher if I were to use the 40k sanguinary guard models as assault sergeants in my BA army? Absolutely. Even if you discount the whole "it's the heresy, everything goes", Blood Angels still had the sanguinary guards back then.
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Ville Valo posted:Huh, I was going to go pretty simple on the backpacks; I've been watching some of Apathetic Fish's youtube series on painting Betrayal at Calth models and he's always got the packs on. If they come off easily I'll try it; I'm a little wary of trying to pry anything off resin. I haven't had any problems painting with backpacks attached, even though I sometimes paint heads or shoulder pads or guns separately. I think you'll be fine.
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Sulecrist posted:I haven't had any problems painting with backpacks attached, even though I sometimes paint heads or shoulder pads or guns separately. I think you'll be fine. I'm definitely doing guns separately (and haven't decided on special weapons yet - probably plasma?)
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Yeah I've never really bothered painting the backpacks before assembly either, save on a few unique models like Helbrecht or what have you. Even on models with cloaks under the packs, you can usually get up under there with no problem. Weapons held close to the chest, or in areas difficult to reach all sides of, sure. Chainswords or pistols pointing away from the model? Glue that sucker right on. Also, before you start in on special weapons, make sure you're certain of the rules for your squads' loadouts. In standard 30k, regular tactical squads don't get special weapons at all.
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Adding on to earlier, how long do you guys usually let parts soak before scrubbing? I've been recommended everything from a couple minutes to all night. All I"m messing with right now is a couple Contemptor arms and some guns. Then later in the week I'll do my 30 shoulder pads.
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Yeast posted:oh Christ Why isn't that Bernie on the floor there?
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Because Ollanius Pius isnt in the picture, duh.
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DO IT TO IT posted:Adding on to earlier, how long do you guys usually let parts soak before scrubbing? I've been recommended everything from a couple minutes to all night. All I"m messing with right now is a couple Contemptor arms and some guns. Then later in the week I'll do my 30 shoulder pads. I typically soak FW resin in warm soapy water for an hour, then scrub under running warm water with a toothbrush until I've made sure to hit all the surfaces, then dry. I just recently got a heat gun so I can alter my warped parts after that if need be.
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