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My Linux Rig posted:Can't wait to see how many would be Democrat voters abandon their vote after Bernie loses the candidacy. Not a whole lot, op
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My Linux Rig posted:Can't wait to see how many would be Democrat voters abandon their vote after Bernie loses the candidacy. About as many as abandoned their vote after Hillary didn't get the nod in 2008, which is not very many.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:23
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I'm more concerned about youth turn out with voting and the new stop african americans from voting campaigns in some states.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:24
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Paul Ryan has died It's the Phantom artist but still, I want other people to be confused for a moment about this new
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Mar 7, 2016 16:26
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Zeroisanumber posted:About as many as abandoned their vote after Hillary didn't get the nod in 2008, which is not very many. Can't wait for the ultra-racist bernieis45.com website to spring up.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:32
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There's an interesting compilation on Youtube of around an hour's worth of news reports on AIDS from the 80's, for those interested in what contemporary mainstream attitudes were like (spoiler alert: they were awful). I can still barely believe gay rights came so far in a single generation. The shitbag congressman who appears around 16.00 lived to see gay marriage legalized nationwide! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPO5wausim8
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Mar 7, 2016 16:33
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My Linux Rig posted:Can't wait to see how many would be Democrat voters abandon their vote after Bernie loses the candidacy. They don't vote anyways so.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:34
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My Linux Rig posted:Can't wait to see how many would be Democrat voters abandon their vote after Bernie loses the candidacy. Can't wait to see this stupid loving meme die already.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:37
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Evil Fluffy posted:Can't wait for the ultra-racist bernieis45.com website to spring up. Reddit is getting a new url???
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Apraxin posted:There's an interesting compilation on Youtube of around an hour's worth of news reports on AIDS from the 80's, for those interested in what contemporary mainstream attitudes were like (spoiler alert: they were awful). I can still barely believe gay rights came so far in a single generation. The shitbag congressman who appears around 16.00 lived to see gay marriage legalized nationwide! Wow. This is a great link, thank you for posting it.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:41
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My Linux Rig posted:Can't wait to see how many would be Democrat voters abandon their vote after Bernie loses the candidacy. Seventeen. Seventeen is the answer.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:42
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Junior G-man posted:LMAO David Brooks is now pining for the days of Obama and civility. It's amazing how steadfast Brooks remains to his belief of "No, the GOP is still a party of serious-minded responsible government people!" while rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:44
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RevKrule posted:Paul Ryan has died Don't toy with my hopes and emotions like that, rear end in a top hat! 
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Mar 7, 2016 16:45
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Solkanar512 posted:Can't wait to see this stupid loving meme die already. It'll die when "hey, have you guys heard that GOP primary turnout is way ahead of the dems?  " dies: not soon enough
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Mar 7, 2016 16:46
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Apraxin posted:There's an interesting compilation on Youtube of around an hour's worth of news reports on AIDS from the 80's, for those interested in what contemporary mainstream attitudes were like (spoiler alert: they were awful). I can still barely believe gay rights came so far in a single generation. The shitbag congressman who appears around 16.00 lived to see gay marriage legalized nationwide! This is pretty great. Especially with the first report being about it being a rare form of cancer. Very interesting.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:47
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Theris posted:It'll die when "hey, have you guys heard that GOP primary turnout is way ahead of the dems? Fun fact, the party with higher turnout in the primary is 4-7 since 1972
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:It's amazing how steadfast Brooks remains to his belief of "No, the GOP is still a party of serious-minded responsible government people!" while rocking back and forth in the fetal position. Its really amusing to me because he's basically my conservative friend.txt
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Mar 7, 2016 16:50
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Fun fact, the party with higher turnout in the primary is 4-7 since 1972 That's my point. Just like primary turnout has zero correlation with general results, the number of Bernie supporters who would normally vote in the general but won't vote for Hillary is, to a first approximation, zero. But people won't stop Arzying about either.
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Mar 7, 2016 16:53
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Theris posted:But people won't stop Arzying about either. Is this your first D&D presidential cycle?
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Mar 7, 2016 16:54
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Theris posted:That's my point. Just like primary turnout has zero correlation with general results, the number of Bernie supporters who would normally vote in the general but won't vote for Hillary is, to a first approximation, zero. But people won't stop Arzying about either. Yeah. I mean, I am a self-doubting Democrat who remembers how it felt to lose to Bush, twice; but some of this poo poo is just stupid.
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/706868542940028928
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Mar 7, 2016 17:01
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You won't find the word "voicemail" any where in the constitution.
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Mar 7, 2016 17:04
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Is this the fabled slippery slope I keep hearing about? First you abolish voicemail, then what do you abolish next!?
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Mar 7, 2016 17:06
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Phone posted:Is this the fabled slippery slope I keep hearing about? Originalist office management. Ban all equipment and services invented after 1789.
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Mar 7, 2016 17:08
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Phone posted:Is this the fabled slippery slope I keep hearing about? at my last job we had a whole discussion about getting rid of voice mail to save money it was wierd
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So I'm the second youngest of five children. I'm 30 and my older siblings are all in their late 40s. Up until now they were all pretty staunch Republicans save for my younger brother who has never been interested in politics. My older brother is a retired master chief in the Air force and is voting Democrat because he doesn't trust the Republicans to not gently caress over the military and get them involved in another war. My older sister is married to an incredibly wealthy investment banker and is voting democrat because she thinks Trump/Cruz are both insane and their economic policies could tank the economy. She's also freaked out by the religious poo poo Cruz/Rubio peddles. She has two daughters and the whole "no exceptions even with rape" position on abortion scares her. She's your typical "Tax cuts solve everything" Republican who doesn't really care about social issues that much. My other older sister works in corporate investment at a large bank in Chicago and also feels no one in the GOP field is responsible enough not to gently caress with the economy. She also has some experience dealing either directly or indirectly in something Trump had a hand in in. She apparently knows he's not the businessman he portrays himself as but I don't know what it was she saw or was involved with. I have to imagine there are a lot of "sensible" Republicans that feel the same way as my family, but I had no idea that basically everyone in my family felt strongly enough to say "I loving hate Hilary but these people are insane  ". I know that's anecdotal and doesn't mean much, but I wonder how many people are feeling the same way.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Seventeen. Seventeen is the answer. ...What sort of margin of error you have on that number. Just asking as if its +-3 people they might still be able to get some sort of group discount on a booze cruise to drink away butt hurt.
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302Chris Hedges posted:College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor. Now they are being made to pay. Their duplicity—embodied in politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—succeeded for decades. These elites, many from East Coast Ivy League schools, spoke the language of values—civility, inclusivity, a condemnation of overt racism and bigotry, a concern for the middle class—while thrusting a knife into the back of the underclass for their corporate masters. This game has ended. 
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https://medium.com/@emmalindsay/trump-supporters-aren-t-stupid-3d38f70f2a2f#.wwo50dgv1Emma Lindsay posted:We are depriving the white working classes of their means to give. As we export manufacturing jobs internationally and as we streamline labor with technology, we start moving people to the sidelines. It’s not just that they have less money, it’s that their identity as providers is being threatened. This is why they are often so against welfare. Even if it would fix their financial situation, it would not fix their identity problems. It would hurt their dignity. While the working class is undoubtedly worried about the economy, we already know many will not vote in their economic best interests. They vote for the candidate who promises a return to dignity, and it’s not because they’re dumb. It’s because they care about their dignity more than they care about their finances.
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Theris posted:That's my point. Just like primary turnout has zero correlation with general results, the number of Bernie supporters who would normally vote in the general but won't vote for Hillary is, to a first approximation, zero. But people won't stop Arzying about either. It lets Clinton supporters feel good about themselves since they can't bring themselves to get excited about her.
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Unzip and Attack posted:It lets Clinton supporters feel good about themselves since they can't bring themselves to get excited about her. I am excited about her. But hey, tell us more of your totally anecdotal bullshit!
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Mar 7, 2016 17:25
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Goddamn Ivy League democrats not like down to earth republicans such as the Bushes, Ted Cruz, or Ben Carson.
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Mar 7, 2016 17:25
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https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/706875762616438784 GO AWAY BLOOMBERG
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Mar 7, 2016 17:27
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It wouldn't be a Clinton election without a major third party candidate.
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as halfway crooks posted:http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/706875762616438784 Wanna meet the one percent of trump voters that would switch to Bloomberg.
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Mar 7, 2016 17:33
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Why on Earth would Bloomberg run if it's Clinton. Hollismason posted:It would be better to have Greg Stillson as President than Ted Cruz. Greg Stillson is running and he wants to make America great again.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Wanna meet the one percent of trump voters that would switch to Bloomberg. It's the actual 1% ers looking to support a "business" man. Trump is the defacto answer atm.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I am excited about her. But hey, tell us more of your totally anecdotal bullshit! I'm excited about both Bernie and Hillary.  I mean both are actually good choices with one a few marginal differences between them when it comes to what they could actually accomplish policy wise.
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On Terra Firma posted:So I'm the second youngest of five children. I'm 30 and my older siblings are all in their late 40s. Up until now they were all pretty staunch Republicans save for my younger brother who has never been interested in politics. My older brother is a retired master chief in the Air force and is voting Democrat because he doesn't trust the Republicans to not gently caress over the military and get them involved in another war. My older sister is married to an incredibly wealthy investment banker and is voting democrat because she thinks Trump/Cruz are both insane and their economic policies could tank the economy. She's also freaked out by the religious poo poo Cruz/Rubio peddles. She has two daughters and the whole "no exceptions even with rape" position on abortion scares her. She's your typical "Tax cuts solve everything" Republican who doesn't really care about social issues that much. My other older sister works in corporate investment at a large bank in Chicago and also feels no one in the GOP field is responsible enough not to gently caress with the economy. She also has some experience dealing either directly or indirectly in something Trump had a hand in in. She apparently knows he's not the businessman he portrays himself as but I don't know what it was she saw or was involved with. My mother is already hard at work justifying her decision to vote for Hillary despite being a lifelong republican. And she's not alone. Trump scares the living day lights out of a certain class of Republican. Some of them will fall in line, undoubtedly, but it won't be pretty.
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