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Quandary posted:Resume is too long. You want 1 page, no more no less. I'd also look at a different style sheet, google one of the 10 million different resume sites to find something that looks a bit less like you just typed into word with no attempts to format. Thanks, I was opposed to the world salad at the top myself but I was told to do that in order to make sure my resume gets a high ranking on whatever scanning software HR uses. I will definitely work on it this weekend. I only put the moderator spot on there to try and eek out some experience for marketing/social media type jobs. I do have some volunteer & leadership experience that I had on my CV but I cut it for the resume. I think part of my problem is trying to go from a CV to a resume which I haven't written for years!
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Alder posted:You can't write expected graduation date since that'd be committing fraud on your resume. Just write "coursework in xyz" and you should be OK.
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Bisty Q. posted:It sounds like he is still (slowly) working on the degree, so writing "BA, Underwater Basket Weaving (expected 2028)" would totally be fine. A resume is a sales document. You don't want to tell lies, but there isn't an expectation that you disclose every minute detail about everything on it. Just saying it's not a good idea v  v
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Alder posted:Just saying it's not a good idea v On what grounds are you basing this? Your opinion? It's not a legal document. If you're graduating in May 2016, you can absolutely say "Expected graduation 5/16" or whatever. If your date is years down the road, I would just say that you're currently attending, but if the end is in sight, why wouldn't you declare that? A resume is a marketing tool to get you an interview where you can elaborate further. You should never fabricate, but you CAN tell your story.
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Alder posted:You can't write expected graduation date since that'd be committing fraud on your resume. Just write "coursework in xyz" and you should be OK.
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Dark Helmut posted:On what grounds are you basing this? Your opinion? It's not a legal document. If you're graduating in May 2016, you can absolutely say "Expected graduation 5/16" or whatever. If your date is years down the road, I would just say that you're currently attending, but if the end is in sight, why wouldn't you declare that? Because it doesn't really state how much of the course they completed so far? Unless they are graduating this summer/fall. Why not ask someone at the career center for their specific career jic? FWIW: I had a expected graduation and most people just ignored it.
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Alder posted:Because it doesn't really state how much of the course they completed so far?
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Alder posted:Because it doesn't really state how much of the course they completed so far? Unless they are graduating this summer/fall. Why not ask someone at the career center for their specific career jic? I'm not sure why it's a bad idea? It's based on the number of credits I need and the number of classes I plan to take per semester. It's when I, uh, expect to graduate. Seems like it's straight forward.
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Alder posted:Because it doesn't really state how much of the course they completed so far? Unless they are graduating this summer/fall. Why not ask someone at the career center for their specific career jic? Career center? I haven't dived into your post history but I'm guessing you're still in school? I'm speaking about this from the perspective of someone who critiques resumes and interviews people every day and I'm simply saying you're wrong to advise someone not to put an expected graduation date on their resume, period.
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I'll be graduating soon with a master's and I haven't been having particularly good luck with job hunting so far. I'm reasonably confident in my resume based on feedback from people I've shown it to, including a few who hired in the industry I'm most interested in, but I'm much less confident in my cover letters. Most cover letter advice I've found so far has come across to me as either too gushing or too robotic - I want to avoid both, and was hoping for feedback on a recent cover letter: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxyBn3fecLoENmpFcmtwZWtHX1k/view?usp=sharing Is it too dry/formulaic? Are my explanations of my experience clear and selling? I'm not really sure.
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Vulture Culture posted:seconding that this is terrible advice and this mindset is absolutely, positively not the norm among HR professionals, hiring managers, or the Yale Office of Career Strategy which explicitly tells students to do the opposite of what you're saying
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Can someone critique my resume? I know it's kinda long but I have worked at a lot of places in a short amount of time so it's going to be hard to cut it down to 1 page. I already added "Additional Experience" at the bottom and cut down some of my experience. Also in general, I feel IT resumes are better when they are more detailed instead of giving brief descriptions. https://www.dropbox.com/s/369vneh9buuxnby/somethingawful.docx?dl=0
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lol internet. posted:Can someone critique my resume? I know it's kinda long but I have worked at a lot of places in a short amount of time so it's going to be hard to cut it down to 1 page. I already added "Additional Experience" at the bottom and cut down some of my experience. Also in general, I feel IT resumes are better when they are more detailed instead of giving brief descriptions. What really jumps out at me is that you don't provide any details. Try to condense the list and quantify it - how many? Also try to include results and impact: did you save the company money? Reduce the occurrence of bad things? Improve operations? Positive feedback from executives?
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lol internet. posted:Can someone critique my resume? I know it's kinda long but I have worked at a lot of places in a short amount of time so it's going to be hard to cut it down to 1 page. I already added "Additional Experience" at the bottom and cut down some of my experience. Also in general, I feel IT resumes are better when they are more detailed instead of giving brief descriptions. Wow this is long. I don't love the way you split up your experience into responsibilities and key contributions. Pick the important ones and only mention those. You mentioned making it detailed, which I agree is important, but your bullet points are all very brief individually. For instance, this is much better bullet point quote:Architected, planned and re-implemented Microsoft Systems Center Configuration Manager (SCCM 2007) quote:Day to day LAN operations I would drop the 'additional experience' section completely. You don't need to list every job you've ever had and more entry-level tech support positions are unlikely to sway anyone to hire you compared to your most recent jobs. That also applies to your job from 2006-2008. I'm also not convinced you need that summary statement up at the top. That's what your cover letter is for. Xandu fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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My alumni career services adviser also gave me some tips so I have both a chronological resume: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4dno4p77e4de5b/resume.goon.chronological.docx?dl=0 and a functional resume: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9zudxczht7l4gw3/resume.goon.functional.docx?dl=0 I would appreciate any suggestions - I think this is already an improvement!
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I'm unhappy with my current job for various reasons and have been interviewing around at other companies. I have an interview with one I'd like to work at on Thursday, and I feel like I have a good chance of getting it. Here's my issue, however: I found out on the day I scheduled my interview that my current job wants me to go on a business trip overseas for a week+, leaving a month from today. They want me to schedule it ASAP. I'm dragging my feet on it because I want to see how this interview on Thursday goes first. Of course, this is all moot if I don't get this new job, but what if I do? Do I continue with business as normal at my current job and book the trip? Hold out until Thursday before booking the flight? Tell the new job that I need to finish this week long overseas trip first? Other people are waiting for me to book my trip so they can plan their trips around me. This is really stressing me out.
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Cheesegod posted:I'm unhappy with my current job for various reasons and have been interviewing around at other companies. I have an interview with one I'd like to work at on Thursday, and I feel like I have a good chance of getting it. Here's my issue, however: Do you think you'd be able to work out a start date that's 4-6 weeks after you get the offer at the new company? If so, I'd say it's business as usual. Tell the new guys you have a project you want to wrap up and keep it mum at your old job until you get back. Give your 2 weeks notice so that it corresponds with the start date you worked out.
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^^ what Puppy Galaxy said ^^^ In general, and unless it's a super urgent need, most employers will respect that you need to wrap up a project you're on. Especially because it implies you'd show them the same respect. Just reference the project being the reason of course, and not the "sweet trip to Amsterdam on the company tab, bruh"
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Puppy Galaxy posted:Give your 2 weeks notice so that it corresponds with the start date you worked out. I tend to give longer if I can assuming I don't have no issues with boss\management\company. Currently I gave six week notice because the way I see it, is they ask me to leave immediately for security reasons (I work in IT) and I get paid till then. Any reason why hold out for 2 weeks only?
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I don't know that they are obligated to pay you for 6 weeks. I could be wrong though, but I wouldn't want to assume that.
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I know you're not supposed to call to follow up on an application these days, but is there ever a point where a call or email wouldn't hurt? I've applied for a municipal job I really want. My application is still listed as "in process" and based on past experience applying for jobs I was less qualified for with the same city, I know they don't waste any time sending you an email letting you know you're no longer under consideration. It's been about a month since the application deadline for this position, however. Should I just keep waiting to avoid seeming over-eager?
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lol internet. posted:I tend to give longer if I can assuming I don't have no issues with boss\management\company. Currently I gave six week notice because the way I see it, is they ask me to leave immediately for security reasons (I work in IT) and I get paid till then. Any reason why hold out for 2 weeks only? Well I'm not in IT and haven't really had big management positions, so maybe it differs. Two weeks is considered the respectful thing to do. If you like the job and have a good relationship with your superiors there's nothing wrong with giving more notice. I've never held a position where I get severance pay; if I did and I liked my boss I guess I might give notice equal to the severance pay if it's under 6 weeks. I suggested two weeks to this guy because his company is sending him overseas so he can ask his new job for a start date in 6 weeks and not risk losing out on what could be a good opportunity within his current position. In my case all paid vacation/sick time goes away when you give your notice, so I may try and negotiate a start date a month or so in the future and take a couple paid days off before giving my notice.
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I'm wondering if it is kosher for me to call a job regarding what is going on. I finished a third interview for a position last thursday. The interview was with a client I would be working with, and they then said that they where going to contact their main branch in Europe. I then talked to the representative at the office where the position would be at, who said that they would like me to begin working there probably next week once they hear back from the European client about what they thought of me. I didn't hear back anything yet, and I was wondering if I should call them and ask what was going on, or if I should wait a little longer. They had sounded eager to have me start working, but this also my first big job opportunity and I'm just feeling very anxious about the whole thing.
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Your interview was Thursday and they need to communicate with Europe? Chill.
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Alright, that's a good point. The turn around for the first two interviews went really fast so my expectations are probably out of whack with reality.
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So I've had 2 interviews for a position and I'll have 2 more if I get the job (one more if I totally gently caress up interview #3). I think I have a decent shot at the position. I'm wondering about whether or not I should attempt to negotiate the salary if I get an offer. Some relevant info: -Position is so entry level, it has "entry level" right in the title. It's a top company to work for in my field so I'm willing to be in the trenches (customer service) for a little bit as there is ample opportunity for growth. -Fairly certain I have more experience than their average hire (someone right out of college). Conversely, I lack a degree. (They do some tuition reimbursement which is part of why I want the position). -The salary they quoted me was OK for the area and the position as I understand it. It's barely more than I'm making now, which isn't much. So I could continue to survive on it. Conventional wisdom is to negotiate, but the recruiter said "everyone" starts at X amount. I've asked various forums, some say they'll rescind the offer on the spot if I ask about negotiating, some say I should go for it. What do you guys think?
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Puppy Galaxy posted:some say they'll rescind the offer on the spot if I ask about negotiating
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Vulture Culture posted:If this ever happens it's a giant red flag that you didn't want to ever be working there Yeah, the jobs I've had I've never negotiated but looking back they've often left a window to do so. My thinking was I'd say "is there any room for negotiation?" and if they say no, say "hey, I had to ask" or something. I'm gonna take the job if they offer it to me because my current company makes me want to put a bullet in my head. On the other hand it's an entry level job at a desirable company so the person who said that (claimed to be a recruiter themselves) got me worried.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:My thinking was I'd say "is there any room for negotiation?"
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Vulture Culture posted:Before Dik Hz chimes in with the same thing: never ask to negotiate. It starts off negotiation by sending a clear signal that you have no clue how to negotiate. So they say "this job pays X" and i say "how about Y"? That dude who said he'd fire me on the spot has me spooked I guess. Basically I'm worried they'd be like "we have a dozen people we might hire who won't care about compensation."
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Puppy Galaxy posted:That dude who said he'd fire me on the spot has me spooked I guess. Basically I'm worried they'd be like "we have a dozen people we might hire who won't care about compensation." There's a saying "You get what you pay for." Go for what you feel you're worth. Worse comes to worse is they say no. If they said something like that, that really isn't a place you'd want to work for I'd imagine unless you're ready to be used and abused. At my recent job, when I got my offer, I was offered 55k, I countered with this: quote:I am excited about the duties of the job, *company name* seems to be a good fit for me and I believe that the *department* team and I could work well together. Essentially I got called back and got that about 58k but with after 100% RRSP/401K matching, it was essentially 62k. Worse comes to worse is they say no, the alternative is if you feel the payment is fair, ask for extra vacation days. lol internet. fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Puppy Galaxy posted:That dude who said he'd fire me on the spot has me spooked I guess. Basically I'm worried they'd be like "we have a dozen people we might hire who won't care about compensation." Circling back around to this: Puppy Galaxy posted:So they say "this job pays X" and i say "how about Y"? Some companies pay better than others. Some employers, especially public employers, may be bound by union contracts and have no leeway whatsoever in what kind of salary and benefits you'll receive. But if you ask for a compensation package that's within the ballpark of their budget, anyone who isn't a complete rear end in a top hat (again: them revealing this early is doing you a favor) is not likely to shut the whole process down. The worst that happens is that they'll fail to budge, and reiterate their original offer. Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Question on formatting that ties back into some previous discussion. I'm a senior, double majoring in computer science and linguistics, and I got accepted to a master's at my current university, in computational linguistics. It's only one year due to me being an alumnus and thus having the relevant background coursework, but I would graduate with the same degree that the regular MA students do. How should this be formatted on a resume (one University Name heading or two?) and is it okay for me to put "Expected May 2017" for the master's even though I haven't technically started it yet? If I do put it, does it deserve an explanation, on either the resume or a cover letter? Right now, I have something like this: code:
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Puppy Galaxy posted:What do you guys think?
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Jesus you guys are so much better than Reddit. Thanks for all the thoughtful responses.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:So I've had 2 interviews for a position and I'll have 2 more if I get the job (one more if I totally gently caress up interview #3). I think I have a decent shot at the position. I'm wondering about whether or not I should attempt to negotiate the salary if I get an offer. Some relevant info: But seriously, read the negotiation thread.
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Vulture Culture posted:Before Dik Hz chimes in with the same thing: never ask to negotiate. It starts off negotiation by sending a clear signal that you have no clue how to negotiate. Vulture Culture posted:If this ever happens it's a giant red flag that you didn't want to ever be working there
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Puppy Galaxy posted:So I've had 2 interviews for a position and I'll have 2 more if I get the job (one more if I totally gently caress up interview #3). I think I have a decent shot at the position. I'm wondering about whether or not I should attempt to negotiate the salary if I get an offer. Some relevant info: I'm going to play devil's advocate with this one. It's an entry level position, so the real pull here is NOT what you're making at start but where you'll be after you get in and prove yourself and gain valuable experience, which I would infer that you're not getting where you are now. So with that said, if you must, then state your case/reasoning for asking for more $$, but understand that they may indeed have a habit of starting at a set rate to see if you cut the mustard plus the tuition reimbursement isn't free for them and is effectively a nice raise for you, right? But as was said above, if they rescind the offer that's an obvious dealbreaker. I know I'd be on the fence as to whether or not I'd ask though, because everything else sounds like this is a great opportunity with a fair salary and compensation as well as the vaunted "room for growth" that someone junior in their career needs. Good luck man!
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So I had my onsite interview yesterday - it went decent despite it being 6 hours long. Didn't knock it out of the park, but didn't completely blow it. They said they would be in contact with me today and sure enough they were. They emailed at 10am this morning to schedule a call with the recruiter and hiring manager. Is this a good sign? A bad sign? The wording of the email sounds neutral (probably intentionally so). I'm freaking out because I don't know if they're going to say I got the job or if the recruiter and manager are blocking off some time to tell me how bad I did yesterday.
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Cheesegod posted:So I had my onsite interview yesterday - it went decent despite it being 6 hours long. Didn't knock it out of the park, but didn't completely blow it. They said they would be in contact with me today and sure enough they were. They emailed at 10am this morning to schedule a call with the recruiter and hiring manager. Is this a humblebrag?  Most companies don't block off two peoples' calendars just to give feedback on how horribly you did. You're probably in the driver's seat, broseph.
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