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Two awesome SBs in a row 🤗
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Mar 6, 2016 19:54
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Stybar hosed that up. I wonder if he forgot the finish was downhill. Looked like he thought Canc would lead him out
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Mar 7, 2016 01:12
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Whoever got to the last corner wins that race. Cancellara did really well to not let Stybar have even a chance to pass through the last few turns.
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Mar 7, 2016 01:20
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Pocket posted:Two awesome SBs in a row 🤗 Its been a great run for them tbh. One of my favourite races to watch since the scenery is so nice as well.
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Mar 7, 2016 09:57
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Even if you don't like track you should all watch the final of the Madison from the world champs.
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Mar 7, 2016 19:45
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serious gaylord posted:Even if you don't like track you should all watch the final of the Madison from the world champs. It was pretty cool, such a shame it got dropped from the Olympics
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Mar 7, 2016 19:50
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I watched the highlights, and it's much harder for a track scrub like me to figure out what's going on compared to keirin or any of the sprint events. Without a legend or time gap chart, it's hard to know when lapping is happening or who is ahead.
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Mar 7, 2016 19:59
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kimbo305 posted:I watched the highlights, and it's much harder for a track scrub like me to figure out what's going on compared to keirin or any of the sprint events. The Mens Sprint race in the omnium was great because it was so easy to know what was going on, but yeah the Madison is just chaos and thats the charm I think. I had no idea what was going on but it was great fun.
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Mar 7, 2016 20:25
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It's a lot easier to follow if you're actually at the track, as you're not slaved to the TV director's viewpoint. Also don't watch highlights because they're pointless, I think the BBC highlights showed only the initial attack before they got the lap back (and skipped the 10 laps of actually pushing to get it) and then the last 5 or so laps where nothing really happened. I don't think the TV even caught Wiggins crossing the line 
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Mar 7, 2016 20:42
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I guess you'd always be able to see the pointy man if you are actually there
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Mar 7, 2016 20:48
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I kinda think maybe track cycling sucks. If it were good, actual cycling nations would win at it. But it isn't so the Brits and Aussies are allowed to do their thing.
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Mar 7, 2016 21:00
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It's because actual cycling nations didn't have the money or the interest until recently to fund track programs. Allowing for the UK and Aus to focus on and outspend others to secure a huge tally of Olympic medals.
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Mar 7, 2016 21:26
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Uhhh... France (Pervis) Germany(Forstemann, but he's old now. Also the female german sprinter), Colombia, Canada (women's pursuit but lol we're not a cycling country), and probably quite a few other countries I can't think of have viable people. Netherlands has a that one younger sprinter who could become a big thing. UK and Aus just get a huge tally because there's like 18000 different pursuit categories, and they happen to have a couple top tier athletes. Take Trott away and the UK win rate goes down quite a bit. Plus her and Rowsell were also quite successful on the road, so maybe they're just good at bikes. and mayne team sky jungle juice.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:41
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They got a poo poo load of money and some really nice facilities to train and race in.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:50
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goatface posted:They got a poo poo load of money and some really nice facilities to train and race in. The UK are good at expensive sports involving 4 or less people per team that they can throw exorbitant amounts of money at tbf.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:53
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serious gaylord posted:The UK are good at expensive sports involving 4 or less people per team that they can throw exorbitant amounts of money at tbf. Are they good at rowing? I have never watched rowing.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:55
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Disproportionally good at the sitting down sports.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:57
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tbf America cottoned on to this plan far earlier and has been boosting their medal counts with 5000 bullshit swimming medals for decades.
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Mar 7, 2016 23:00
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Gibbo posted:Uhhh... UK & Aus been at this since before Sydney - Athens. Their respective dominances were not by chance but linked to spending, and now, are not what they once were due to other nations closing the tech and funding gap.
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Mar 8, 2016 06:59
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Pocket posted:UK & Aus been at this since before Sydney - Athens. Their respective dominances were not by chance but linked to spending, and now, are not what they once were due to other nations closing the tech and funding gap. I completely missed the 'until recently' in your other post.
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Mar 8, 2016 07:03
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Pocket posted:UK & Aus been at this since before Sydney - Athens. Their respective dominances were not by chance but linked to spending on drugs, and now, are not what they once were due to other nations closing the tech and funding for drugs gap. Hehe
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Mar 8, 2016 09:25
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wtf is the olympics on already? *frantically flips through an autographed Taylor Phinney wall calendar*
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Mar 8, 2016 13:03
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Welp, Nacer Bouhanni as dodgy as ever today.
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Mar 8, 2016 20:23
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What I continue to fail to understand is this sentiment that only Sky would be juicing. If that were the truth, shouldn't we expect them to have an outsized win tally every year? If Froome is doped to the gills then it's reasonable to assume the rivals that he beats by what are reasonable margins (when he wins) are also doping. That would mean beloved racers such as Contador, Nibali, and Quintana. It's not like we see Sky riders dominating the classics either. In fact we see them showing up essentially as often as anyone else.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:30
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Xir posted:What I continue to fail to understand is this sentiment that only Sky would be juicing. If that were the truth, shouldn't we expect them to have an outsized win tally every year? If Froome is doped to the gills then it's reasonable to assume the rivals that he beats by what are reasonable margins (when he wins) are also doping. That would mean beloved racers such as Contador, Nibali, and Quintana.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:41
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I'm not gonna lie, I hate Chris Froome.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:54
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peanut- posted:tbf America cottoned on to this plan far earlier and has been boosting their medal counts with 5000 bullshit swimming medals for decades. see also: The Netherlands and speed-skating at the winter olympics.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:58
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Xir posted:What I continue to fail to understand is this sentiment that only Sky would be juicing. If that were the truth, shouldn't we expect them to have an outsized win tally every year? If Froome is doped to the gills then it's reasonable to assume the rivals that he beats by what are reasonable margins (when he wins) are also doping. That would mean beloved racers such as Contador, Nibali, and Quintana. The way they drove the peloton into the ground by leading the field for hours with unusually high tempo in a few GTs reminded people of a certain postage-related team circa 1999-2005. And Chris Froomes fast transformation from a relatively average rider to a dominant GT winner with some absolutely stunning performances, while being on special medication for a health issue reminded people of a certain rider of that team. That's probably unfair, especially given that we've seen that Froome is far from unbeatable, but it's easy to see how they appeared like the juggernauts of the balls-to-the-wall-doping era occasionally. Peggotty fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 23:13
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Focusing just on Froome, though he is part of the problem is missing the full picture. Sky riders burying themselves in day in day out for the leader and still beating rival GC riders like its no big deal. Also Geraint Thomas suddenly being a top climber. Sky aren't picked out just for being Sky, Astana got called out in the 2015 Giro by the very same people supporting Sky doing the same in prior GTs.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:55
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Doping is less beneficial for classics compared to grand tours afaik. Power to weight and recovery wins GTs, using AICAR and synthethic testosterone respectively. I do like Froome though, and his book is funny and interesting.
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Mar 9, 2016 01:45
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Xir posted:What I continue to fail to understand is this sentiment that only Sky would be juicing. If that were the truth, shouldn't we expect them to have an outsized win tally every year? If Froome is doped to the gills then it's reasonable to assume the rivals that he beats by what are reasonable margins (when he wins) are also doping. That would mean beloved racers such as Contador, Nibali, and Quintana. The prestige, name recognition, and to a lesser extent, prize money of winning TDF make it entirely worthwhile for Sky to theoretically ignore the classics so as not to draw any extra eyes too. Nobody outside of cycling cares who wins any individual classic except maybe Roubaix or Adriatico (in Italy)
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Mar 9, 2016 02:18
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You mean Milan - San Remo?
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Mar 9, 2016 03:38
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Errr, yeah. Got my order of events mixed up
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Mar 9, 2016 04:14
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That still doesn't address why Tinkoff seems to keep Contador in the mix and The (Potentially) Unstoppable Sky Juggernaut were unable to break Quintana and Valverde who were able to claw back huge chunks of Froome's lead on the last mountain day. I balk at the idea that one or two riders are far and away better than the rest, so anyone else riding at or near their level is doping to be there. Contador's been pegged for doping before as well, so I still think the reverence for the guy is a little weird. It's even possible that they're ALL doping, I don't mean to belabor the point, it's just seems like an odd standard.
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Mar 9, 2016 05:36
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Xir posted:It's even possible that they're ALL doping,
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Mar 9, 2016 05:48
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Some riders are entertaining to watch and those people usually don't ride for Team Sky.
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Mar 9, 2016 08:25
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I'd say it's very likely that their all doping. Also, Contador is fun to watch because he does things other than stare at his stem. Like ride up a mountain with a broken leg.
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Mar 9, 2016 14:46
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Paris Nice weather never disappoints... Edit: stage is cancelled :sad trombone noises: paddyboat fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 15:46
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Xabi posted:Some riders are entertaining to watch and those people usually don't ride for Team Sky. This is reasoning that I'm totally okay with.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:29
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The UCI are going after Van den Driessche with everything. They're chasing a lifetime ban and a 50,000 Euro fine. http://cyclingtips.com/2016/03/uci-seeking-lifetime-ban-and-50000-euro-fine-for-femke-van-den-driessche/
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