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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

come to the breitbart booth at cpac in the next fifteen minutes if you want an asskicking

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NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

hobbesmaster posted:

Stewart was "bad" for years until the daily show got good. Noah is doing ok so far.

Stewart had to trailblaze the formula to his show, Noah has an example he could follow and does it poorly. Quite frankly, the person who "gets" the Daily Show and how to do has to be both a funny comedian and someone, (like how Stewart/Colbert understood the media bullshit of the 00's), understands things like the reason for Trump's rise. I'd don't think Noah understands what NAFTA did to this country because he is a rich immgrant to this country. So him pounding on President Clinton/Trump week in and week out for making more lovely trade deals that destroyed America isn't going to happen.

Jared Kush
Mar 4, 2015

by zen death robot

That guy is a ridiculous goober for sure but the real humor here is his appearance getting mocked by a guy who looks like the alien cockroach from Men In Black crawled inside a pierogi.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





jesus gently caress stop talking about that poo poo show

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

T r a v i s posted:

That guy is a ridiculous goober for sure but the real humor here is his appearance getting mocked by a guy who looks like the alien cockroach from Men In Black crawled inside a pierogi.

Boniface always brings them out.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

BGrifter posted:

Is the weakness of late night comedy to blame for the rise of Trump?

Not even a little bit.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Korelle posted:

It's worth it if it's giving control of stopping you from posting.

Nah, I'll probably post more if he gets elected.;)

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

Top Bunk Wanker posted:

Not even a little bit.

I wasn't serious. :ssh:

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

mike12345 posted:

jesus gently caress stop talking about that poo poo show

who could have known that a decade and a half of investing outsized political hopes in the power of Jon Stewart mugging could go so wrong?

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

H5N1 posted:

If you're wondering why I'm wearing a selt belt right now, it's because I'm all buckled in...for Kasich!!!

I'm tied to the mast...for Trump!

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Tercio posted:

who could have known that a decade and a half of investing outsized political hopes in the power of Jon Stewart mugging could go so wrong?

Hmm wait we need another Rally to Restore Sanity, omg that was so funny and cool lololol

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

BGrifter posted:

Yeah I have no problem with Trevor Noah as a comedian, TDS sucks now though. It's probably more to do with members of the writing team that left when Stewart did than the change of hosts. I'm sure they'll get it back on track eventually.

During the last couple years, Stewart wasn't good either to be frank. Times had changed and everyone could do Stewarts routine, everyone knew the GOP was a walking joke and weren't afraid to call them out on it. Too much so in fact.

Top Bunk Wanker posted:

Not even a little bit.
It is in that comedians/press wasted all their goodwill on attacking public figures for the stupidiest poo poo possible and Trump isn't dumb enough to apologize to these idiots. Like it's an extremely small thing that factored into it.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

NutritiousSnack posted:

During the last couple years, Stewart wasn't good either to be frank. Times had changed and everyone could do Stewarts routine, everyone knew the GOP was a walking joke and weren't afraid to call them out on it. Too much so in fact.

I'd agree with that. I actually thought the best run of TDS toward the end was when John Oliver took over while Stewart was off filming his movie.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

NutritiousSnack posted:

Stewart had to trailblaze the formula to his show, Noah has an example he could follow and does it poorly. Quite frankly, the person who "gets" the Daily Show and how to do has to be both a funny comedian and someone, (like how Stewart/Colbert understood the media bullshit of the 00's), understands things like the reason for Trump's rise. I'd don't think Noah understands what NAFTA did to this country because he is a rich immgrant to this country. So him pounding on President Clinton/Trump week in and week out for making more lovely trade deals that destroyed America isn't going to happen.

The "Trump is running as America's first African president" segment was really good at least. :shobon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPrJxTvgdQ

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Rocks posted:

this is a good soundbite for Trump to take and drive Cruz into the ground. "how dare you loving bring my wife into this campaign, tell women what they should do or shouldn't do, you should apologize, etc. etc."

Trump (who has been in playboy himself) could be the feminist candidate by saying "my wife has a right to do whatever she wants with her body". And then pro-life Trump supporter's heads would explode.

Meanwhile Cruz, the Christian candidate threw an actresses from one of his commercials under the bus because she appeared in a few soft core porn films.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

gay picnic defence posted:

Wouldn't it have been smarter to cosy up to Trump and gradually fill various influential positions within his staff with GOPe types to advise him. That way you'd have the populist/nationalist/whatever talking points that are winning votes but still maintain the GOPe agenda.

Depends on your view: if you're a GOP strategist convinced Trump will fully cement your party as the racist party in the eyes of young and non-white voters, this is a terrible strategy long term because fighting Trump, however ineffectually, still gives them an out to say "look, he may have been from our party but we didn't want him!"

Honestly I don't think anyone's looking that long term and would consider the short term damages of a party sandbagging its own nominee would be devastating enough that it wouldn't be worth it, but there is a mindset that would say pointlessly fighting Trump, even if he wins, is smarter long run.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

The Nastier Nate posted:

Meanwhile Cruz, the Christian candidate threw an actresses from one of his commercials under the bus because she appeared in a few soft core porn films.

Reminder for anyone who didn't hear about it: she endorsed Trump during an interview on CNN yesterday.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

every time there's an internet post about "what if jon stewart were still around" a slate columnist gets a raging hard-on

edit: lol i skipped pages and didn't realize an idiot salon dot com piece is what prompted this

R. Guyovich fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 9, 2016

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/707643118926090242

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


I hear Trump has a lot of openings for bartenders in Florida...

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
You know when even Kasich is throwing shade your way...
https://twitter.com/bgittleson/status/707685286113894400

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/707684148316610560

Erik Erikson is hinting that Rubio is going to drop at this event.

Erik Erikson is most likely wrong.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

Her column today is pretty good.

quote:

If you're into self-dramatization, Donald Trump’s candidacy is perfect for you.


Half of the Washington political class is vowing to vote for Hillary -- even Stalin! -- over Trump; psychologists (and massage therapists) report they are treating patients for "Trump anxiety"; lengthy thought-pieces on Trump have no room to mention his signature issue, immigration, but get prolix on George Wallace, Mussolini and Hitler. (Never Mao, Stalin or Lenin, curiously.)


You're going to have to act quickly if you hope to be among the first 200 princesses to feel the pea under 15 layers of mattresses.


To save you time, I will provide the prototype. Do not be surprised if the following turns up, word for word, under the byline of David Brooks, Stephen Hayes, Cokie Roberts, every single writer for Salon, Gawker, National Review, Commentary and The Huffington Post. And then, of course, Fareed Zakaria will steal it.


** ** **


"J'accuse Donald Trump”


Watching the candidacy of Donald Trump, I am continually struck by his resemblance to a man who came to power in a far-off land nearly 85 years ago, a historical epic that I had naively hoped was well buried in the past.


Consider the following:


-- Adolf Hitler held gigantic rallies, where he inspired millions with rousing speeches. Donald Trump holds gigantic rallies, where he inspires millions with rousing speeches.


-- Adolf Hitler talked about making his country great again. Donald Trump talks about making his country great again.


-- Adolf Hitler promised military victories. Donald Trump promises military victories.


-- Adolf Hitler had a loyal and overweight henchman, Hermann Goering. Donald Trump has a loyal and overweight henchman, Chris Christie.


-- Adolf Hitler blamed a specific group of immigrants for all the nation's problems (Ed: Jews weren't immigrants -- Close enough!). Donald Trump blames a specific group of immigrants for all the nation's problems.



-- Adolf Hitler vowed to build a wall (Ed: Wait a minute -- when did Hitler talk about a wall? Shhhh! Nevermind!) Donald Trump vows to build a wall.


-- Adolf Hitler was a teetotaler. Donald Trump is a teetotaler.


-- Adolf Hitler had a hobby that he enjoyed very much (painting). Donald Trump has a hobby that he enjoys very much (golf).


-- Adolf Hitler had an opulent home in the city as well as a country home, "The Berghof" in Berchtesgaden. Donald Trump has an opulent home in the city as well as a country home, "Mar-a-Lago" in Palm Beach.


-- Adolf Hitler was involved with a woman from Central Europe, Eva Braun. Donald Trump is married to a woman from Central Europe, Melania Knauss.


-- Adolf Hitler had a pact with the Soviet Union from 1939 to 1941; Donald Trump said nice things about Russian president Vladimir Putin.


-- Adolf Hitler required all non-Jewish, German civilians to greet one another with a rigid right-arm salute, while exclaiming "Heil!" or "Heil Hitler!" Donald Trump has asked audiences to promise to vote for him by raising their hands, which is the PRECISELY same thing.


-- Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian; Donald Trump has never smoked.


-- Adolf Hitler forcibly annexed Czechoslovakia. Donald Trump tried to merge two casinos in Atlantic City.


-- Adolf Hitler invested hundreds of millions of dollars on German aviation to upgrade the Luftwaffe. Donald Trump has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in private jets.


-- Adolf Hitler never had any children, but if he had, they would probably have been blond. Both of Donald Trump's daughters are blond.


-- Adolf Hitler's favorite food was liver dumplings, a dish very similar to meatloaf. (Ed.: They're not remotely similar. No one knows that.) Donald Trump's favorite food is meatloaf.


-- Adolf Hitler had light hair and a moustache. Donald Trump has light hair and a moustache. (This has not been definitively established, but some who knew Trump in the 1970s recall that he had a moustache, albeit a fuller, longer one.)


-- One of Adolf Hitler's idols was World War I fighter pilot Manfred von Richthofen, also known as "the Red Baron." Donald Trump's son is named Barron. (It's spelled differently, but sounds the same.)


-- Adolf Hitler liked Eva Braun because she was very attractive; Donald Trump's wife, Melania, is very attractive.


-- Adolf Hitler vowed to exterminate entire races; Donald Trump has vowed to exterminate ALL Mexicans and Central Americans. (Mr. Trump has yet to call for this, but if he had, it would be an amazing parallel and speak very ill of his character.)


-- One of Adolf Hitler's favorite desserts, not his No. 1 favorite, but one he enjoyed several times a year, was chocolate ice cream. Donald Trump has talked about formerly liking Oreos. (Recently, he vowed never to eat Oreos again because Nabisco moved its factories to Mexico. This does not negate his previous position on the cookie.)


-- Adolf Hitler was known for erecting concentration camps – surrounded by walls to keep people out, particularly Mexicans. (Ed: That's not true.) Donald Trump wants to build a wall.


-- Allowing Adolf Hitler to come to power was a horrible mistake for an entire nation; allowing Donald Trump to come to power will be a horrible mistake for an entire nation.


In conclusion, [dramatic music plays] I have covered American politics for 30 years. For the first time in my life I am afraid for my country. Very afraid. Very, very afraid. Very, very, very afraid.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



gently caress

I just realized I'm on the same side of an issue as Ann Coulter

Just kill me

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Hitler was a vegetarian, Trump never smoked.

Murder... all... liberals?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Epic High Five posted:

gently caress

I just realized I'm on the same side of an issue as Ann Coulter

Just kill me

Same gross

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

"fascism was a uniquely historical phenomenon that could never be repeated or take on new forms in the 21st century" and other uncritical fictions for idiots

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Will the entire GOP back Ted "SLIME MAN" Cruz to stop Donald J Trump?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

BGrifter posted:

I wonder if the transition of The Daily Show and Colbert's absence/toned down new show created a window where Trump was able to sneak through and not be the punchline candidate everyone assumed he'd be when he started running? In the beginning everyone assumed he'd be late night comedian fodder for a while then drop out/may not even file his paperwork. Is the weakness of late night comedy to blame for the rise of Trump?

Is late night comedy weak because Trump is so successful? It's an interesting question, in the face of Jimmy Fallon and the like treating him like any other celebrity. My instinct is that late night comedy has never been as influential as we thought it was, not since the era of Dan Quayle and "potatoe". Even that was four years into his VP stint, which means even in the height of the industry's sway and reach, it takes years to successfully build a narrative that is in anyway effective.

So Trump's faults being used as an effective cudgel by late night TV will only hold by the end of his first hypothetical Presidency by the most optimistic estimation, and that is only if the narrative is one antithetical to his electoral chances. Since his narrative right now is a crazed bull charging forward, something very much viewed as a positive by a good percentage of the population, that makes it even less than useful as a weapon.

Now if there is enough momentum built about him being doddering and not right in the head, that might make more traction. But that will come from Trump, not from anything you will see from the late night circuit.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

Trump isn't very good to be ridiculed on late night because he's beyond satire

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

if a late night comedy show could effectively disrupt the power structure of the united states it would no longer be allowed on air

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Montasque posted:

Will the entire GOP back Ted "SLIME MAN" Cruz to stop Donald J Trump?

Ohhhhhh please do. The transition from "yay we killed trump" to "wait this guy did what?" would be just as much fun as the one from unskewed polls to unused barge full of fireworks.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Thump! posted:

Hitler was a vegetarian, Trump never smoked.

Murder... all... liberals?

None of the axis leaders smoked.

Cracked_Gear
Nov 4, 2013

- Hitler had TWO eyes!
- Trump ALSO has two eyes!

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





TheTatteredKing posted:

None of the axis leaders smoked.

Yeah, but burning people was a-ok.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Ohhhhhh please do. The transition from "yay we killed trump" to "wait this guy did what?" would be just as much fun as the one from unskewed polls to unused barge full of fireworks.

"Mr Cruz, will the headstone be marble, granite, or tonsil?"

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
Donald Trump is treated with kid gloves by late night comedians because he's been going on late night comedy since the late 1970s and has consistently been a great interview for 35 years. He's one of the pillars of the New York scene they live in and has been one of the central figures of that community since before most of the people in this thread were born. Sometimes it feels like people forget that Donald Trump is...Donald Trump. He can pal around with Fallon and Colbert just like he palled around with Leno and Letterman and just like he will pal around with whomever eventually replaces them 15 years down the road: late night comedy is his scene. He's been going on Saturday Night Live for decades, why stop now?

Donald Trump is not a new or unknown quantity in that world. He's a great interview, he's provocative and entertaining, occasionally outrageous and controversial, and he'll be hosting the rocking, wild, and oh-so-classy aftershow party where he'll tell you that your Donald Trump hairpiece for the bit was excellent, marvelous, etc.

It's really strange to me that people feel that Trump would get killed on late night. Possibly excepting Oliver and Noah, who are new to the U.S., the other late night comedians have been living in Trump's orbit for decades.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

has Rubio dropped out yet?

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
Coulter is great cuz I actually can't tell if she's trying to be satirical or is just being an idiot as usual

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SNAKES N CAKES
Sep 6, 2005

DAVID GAIDER
Lead Writer
The Chicago Tribute gives Rubio the news he wants to hear:

quote:

Neither Hillary Clinton nor Bernie Sanders earned the Democratic endorsement of the Chicago Tribune, less than a week before Illinoisans head to the polls in the March 15 primary.

"This being a free country, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are welcome to pander however feverishly they wish, promising vast new expenditures by a federal government already committed to wildly more spending than its taxpayers and its low-growth economy can afford," the newspaper's editorial board wrote Wednesday, hitting Clinton in particular for scrambling "to mimic" Sanders on proposing costly programs unlikely to make it through Congress.

The Tribune endorsed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio on the Republican side, writing that regardless of his stances on individual issues, "he offers Illinois voters the framework of a presidency that realistically could exist."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...-sanders-220509

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