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nocal
Mar 7, 2007

Ms Boods posted:

Delaware native here, and yet another reason to despise (the) bloody DuPont(s).

Everyone knows the story now, but I when I went to college on the east coast, the "Foxcatcher" story was a bit of an open secret on our campus. Our basketball arena still had visible holes (in '06) where "duPont" had been removed from the exterior.

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Doctor_Acula
May 24, 2011
Yeah. I think the DuPonts as a whole fit this thread.

HelleSpud
Apr 1, 2010
Does anybody still have that post about the Soviet gently caress up where after a foreign plane was got through their airspace the rule was changed so the radar systems were never allowed to be off and all maintenance had to be done live or in like ten minutes. Then one day some engineers are working on a radar dish when a higher up visits mission control and demands a show/test run so the engineers had to just jump in a truck and drive out as fast as they could before the systems could power up but they don't make it. Being Russia then they they weren't even mercy killed, just forced to keep going until their bodies gave out so the scientists could study the effects of microwaves on the human body.

I would have sworn I'd read it here, but I can't find it here, in my history, or anywhere else online. (I did find a post by someone else looking for it)

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

HelleSpud posted:

Does anybody still have that post about the Soviet gently caress up where after a foreign plane was got through their airspace the rule was changed so the radar systems were never allowed to be off and all maintenance had to be done live or in like ten minutes. Then one day some engineers are working on a radar dish when a higher up visits mission control and demands a show/test run so the engineers had to just jump in a truck and drive out as fast as they could before the systems could power up but they don't make it. Being Russia then they they weren't even mercy killed, just forced to keep going until their bodies gave out so the scientists could study the effects of microwaves on the human body.

I would have sworn I'd read it here, but I can't find it here, in my history, or anywhere else online. (I did find a post by someone else looking for it)

I read about that here very early on in this thread (or was there a previous one?) and it was horrifying.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

HelleSpud posted:

Does anybody still have that post about the Soviet gently caress up where after a foreign plane was got through their airspace the rule was changed so the radar systems were never allowed to be off and all maintenance had to be done live or in like ten minutes. Then one day some engineers are working on a radar dish when a higher up visits mission control and demands a show/test run so the engineers had to just jump in a truck and drive out as fast as they could before the systems could power up but they don't make it. Being Russia then they they weren't even mercy killed, just forced to keep going until their bodies gave out so the scientists could study the effects of microwaves on the human body.

I would have sworn I'd read it here, but I can't find it here, in my history, or anywhere else online. (I did find a post by someone else looking for it)

This post

permabanned posted:

Before I start, I would like to say that the events described in here have really happened, though the names of the unfortunate victims are changed by the author.
The collection of medical cases is written by a non-engineer in the manner so that everyone could understand it. The opinions of the author are purely his own, they do not represent my opinions. I have tried to translate it as close as it was possible. This text contains no classified information, everything in it could be found in open access on the Internet.

A.V. Lomachinski
Faculty of Military Medicine Academy of the Military Medicine, Moscow
"Curious cases in military medicine and military medical investigation"
excerpt:

Radar-originated trauma.

If you think that radar-originated trauma is something akin to a strike with a rotating radar dish - you are deeply mistaken. Radar-originated trauma is
an injury inflicted by microwaves. If the microwave radiation is weak, then one wouldn't have an injury, but a chronic radar-originated disease.
Sleeplessness, restlessness , pains and body weight loss are among its symptoms. It's not great, but at least you are alive. What we didn't know is that it is very
difficult to stay alive after a real radar-originated trauma. Microwave radiation is considered 'soft' as it is not in common terms 'hard' gamma radiation, but just
a "low-intensity" high-frequency electromagnetic field, akin to a microwave oven. Why would you fear that?

Most powerful fields are generated by Strategic Defense Initiative radars. Their emitter is constructed in a fashion as to project a focused invisible beam of MW radiation.
This is understandable, because the you would loose less energy on useless 'highlighting' of the empty space. At first a standby-radar spots something foreign in the airspace, and then detected object is 'highlighted' with a focused beam. The interception missile follows the reflection of that focused beam, right to the object. This system was worked down to details, like the Bolshoi theater. This was the system, described in the agreement on Strategic defense, signed in 1972 by Nixon and Brezhnev, the same old agreement that was repealed 30 years later by Bush. Sr. That's right - the Strategic Defense System of Moscow was founded in 1973, albeit only with nuclear-tipped interceptors, while the USA could never create something efficient until 2000. A typical AA Defense officer of the Moscow and Leningrad district had a hard time during his duties, as both the northern and the official capital were just minutes away from the border. Radars were permanently on-line and the officers were always on call, like in wartime, no slacking allowed. Things got lax during the Gorbachev's term, that's when those events happened.

There was a secret SDI base somewhere in-between Kalinin and Leningrad. Like in every other military garrison bordering Moscow a hard time has fallen upon the crews, the reason behind it - just a month before, a German amateur pilot, named Rust, landed in his small plane directly on the Red Square. This was an inconceivable insult to the "new policy and new thinking" of the Gorbachev's regime, and it has brought the highest disdain towards the SDI and Air force.

The newly appointed Minister of Defense - Yazov, commonly called in the Army - "Everyone will put on his uniform" (* originally a word play on his name), who liked nothing more than war exercises and parades, has signed a new order, forbidding to take off-line SDI radars for routine maintenance, unless the equipment was seriously broken.
This meant that Army technies had to resort to all kinds of tricks to successfully maintain radars, without turning them off, while working on them. Of course such arrangements were impossible on the continuous pulse radars, but it worked a marvel on the focused beam ones.
One only had to call your SDI counterparts and "Is everything clear? So it's ok if we go up?". That meant - to go into the temporary 'asleep' radar beam zone. But if all of a sudden ... Put it bluntly - anything remotely suspicious can bring on-line a 'sleeping' radar. For the technician, working inside the emitter this situation meant Russian roulette - if one survived this time, he would live at least until the next maintenance round.

Sergeant Ivanuk, captain Lykov and privates Al'muhammedov and Siniagin conducted a "routine small-scale maintenance without shutting down the radar". Captain was checking the electrical works while the privates washed and cleaned something, under the watchful eye of a sergeant, who helped the captain from time to time. The radar control room was far away from the emitter dish itself, in an underground bunker, so there they were issued a truck, Gaz-66. Sergeant Liahovetski, a driver, was the fifth member of the repair and maintenance party.

According to the safety guidelines he was to drive the group directly underneath the dish, then retreat with the car 300m in a safe direction. He was to constantly watch for the other members to appear out of the radar's maintenance entrance, keeping the motor running. And it wasn't just your plain army Gaz truck - its cabin and the rear compartment were screened from the microwave radiation, and over the cabin windows retractable perforated steel sheets were extended. The truck electrical circuits were shielded as well, and on the key fob, instead of the ordinary driver's gri-gri you had a fluorescent bulb, that looked like a pen - a microwave indicator. When the bulb started glowing it meant for the driver that it was time to lower the retractable shields and drive quickly towards the radar's door, while pushing the horn constantly. Personnel would jump in the rear compartment, and the truck would scramble away from the radar, in the direction opposite to the emitter.

A routine small maintenance duty was usually quite peaceful and lasted not more than 15 minutes, the technies would walk out of the door and wave their hands for the truck to come over and pick them up. No shielding was necessary. When the personnel was waving a small red flag - it just meant that you had to drive quickly and put down shields on the return way, because the meaning of the red flag was that someone had called from a central station and the radar would be on-line shortly after that.

During the month after Rust landing and that stupid directive enactment, no such extraordinary situation would happen. All the Airforce waited for the siege to be lifted and the Minister's anger to calm down, bringing the duties back to the normal cycle. Meanwhile all technies climbed in 'sleeping' radars, cursing the amateur German, the directive and the perestroika, that started to steer in a very weird direction.

There was an unwritten rule between the radar personnel - when a foreign object was spotted, first and foremost people called the focused beam radar to check, whether someone was working in the emitter zone, and then the alert was declared. The radar enters automatic mode after the alert is declared and it cannot be turned off or steered out of the way. Those 20 - 30 seconds before the alert sufficed to pull away of the dangerous zone, so that the people were spared and the radar had enough time to connect and spot the target. Such precautions, were of course unconductive to maintain an acceptable alert readiness level, but at least it allowed a way out of the current stupid situation.

That day a major was on the watch, a well-known person in the technies circle, so they couldn't have expected anything bad to happen. He was steady, of sound mind and valued the lives of his subordinates and mates more that the opinion of the army inspection commissions.

And this inspection arrived suddenly. Only if it was a routine check - a single colonel or a major from the division, he could have explained everything or even told them to gently caress away, even risking his career. Unfortunately for him , there was a whole bunch of colonels, generals, and this band was called 'General readiness inspection of the Ministry of Defense'. This is a time when ballroom generals give orders to launch a strategic missile from a SSBN in Northern Ocean, while watching this missile to be shut down, in real life. They can also make this 'real' exercise to closer resemble wartime conditions. That was exactly what happened - they told the major, that he was dead, because the control center was destroyed by a missile ten minutes ago, "Pull the switch, shut down the controls, the communication has already been cut" he was told. We'll see how the global SDI system beam control works, not only your base. The major grabbed the phone, but could hear no tone. He would have liked to call the guys to warn them, but how? His own base emitter was no longer working, and even if he could see the focused beam screen, he couldn't have done anything. Suddenly, a bright spot appeared on a station screen - that could mean only one thing - the beam has highlighted a target for the interceptor missile. Once that have happened, the radar turns fully automatic,preoccupied with the only goal, even if it's quite a primitive robotic goal of destruction. From that moment on nothing can interrupt the work of the beam - 30 megatons of the enemy weapons are flying towards Moscow, to shot those down was important, the rest wasn't.
[to be continued...]

permabanned posted:

[...part 2...]

Captain Lykov was killed instantly - electrocuted by the 27 kV power supply. No radar injury - death like on an electric chair. The radar operator said that 'the only thing left were his shoes'. He was exaggerating, even if the shoes were spared, they still rested on the charred body's feet. Sergeant and privates weren't holding any conductive surfaces, so the current didn't do anything bad to them. They felt an intense heat and an unbearable pain in their heads, they jumped out of the radar door. I have to say that no one was in direct line of sight of the focused beam, if they would, the result would have been different. They were only lightly touched by periphery of the microwave beam.

After some moments all three went blind, the heat was gone, but their bodies felt burning from within. Ivanyuk didn't loose his courage and shouted "Privates, come towards me, hold one another." Almost falling unconscious the soldiers crept near the sergeant and grabbed him. Just after, the trio heard the engine sound and the horn. Three technies were a pitiful sight to behold and Liakhovetski realized that he couldn't just stay in the shielded cabin. To hell with the glowing microwave detector, he opened the door and jumped out. His skin started tingling very unpleasantly and his head was feeling heavy, after a moment a burning sensation came. That is - a burning sensation from within.
The pain around the bones was especially strong - as if someone was pushing cigarette butts from another dimension.

"Where is the Cap'n " - shouted the driver
"He's hosed. I've seen him electrocuted, Load us up, we are feeling really loving lovely and we're blind! Faster, friend, faster! If we don't scramble, we'll loving burn alive here!"- responded sergeant.

The driver, with great difficulty, pushed the weakening trio in the rear compartment. He was starting to feel really lovely himself, weakened and swaying, like a drunk. Finally, up in the truck cabin, he could see that the shields have heated up, but humans could still walk - he was amazed. He first thought that he was going to drive his truck in a ditch, but after only 200 meters he felt much better, the burning had diminished, he was dizzy and wanted to throw up. Finally the fence - 300 m away from the radar, safe zone already, so he could lift the shields from the windscreen. But he wouldn't stop here, he thought, it was at least 3 km till the checkpoint, there he could call someone. How the others in the back, are feeling? He wanted to piss and vomit. He stopped after a kilometer, wanting to jump out of the truck, but instead he had fallen out helplessly. After a little while he could get up, walk a few meters to the nearest tree and throw up here, only a small amount of puke would come out. He remembered the landscape around the radar dish - a concrete field, then some short grass and further some bushes, trees, far in the distance. "Does it burn up itself or someone cuts it?" he thought - "It burns up, probably."

The piss was hot, at least it seemed hotter that normally, then he realized that it was painful to relieve himself - "Oh, great, I caught gonorhhea from a radar" he thought, but it was only funny for an instant. He pissed all over himself, because he couldn't stand upright, and even than he was holding himself on a tree. Liakhovski cursed and dragged himself towards the rear compartment of the truck.
It was disturbingly quiet inside - two were disparately lying on the floor, the sergeant's head rested in a puddle of vomit. Only Sinyagin was half-seated in the far corner of the compartment, visibly he puked over himself, but at least he was awake. His eyes were open, but he didn't react to the light.

"Tovashishh sergeant, Mikhail, Sanych, Altik, Sinya, What's up mates!!!", he only heard a heave, coming from Sinyagin, he pulled himself in the compartment and started shaking the prostrated people. Everyone was alive, but unconscious, he wrapped them in work vests and an old blanket, and tried to make a makeshift headboard for all three to lie on. Finally, he felt much better himself, the pan was completely gone, but the dizziness remained. He thought, that he couldn't help them, only deliver them quickly to a medic. He was afraid to jump out of the truck once more, so he lied down on the compartment floor and slided off. Then, leaning against the truck body, he walked towards the cabin and drove towards the checkpoint.
Four people were normally manning the checkpoint, while two were out patrolling the perimeter and looking for lost mushroom pickers, the two others stayed "on the line". The young recruits usually do the rounds, as they have to walk far - to the next checkpoint and sign their presence in the journal there. The 'stick' time, as was called the barrier watch duty, was very uneventful. If one were to hear the sound of the engine, he would go outside with his weapon ready and open the barrier, while the other one would make a note in the journal. This time the watch man immediately understood that something exceptional have happened, the approaching truck was swerving and when it stopped near the barrier, Sgt. Liakhovski had almost fallen out of the cabin. The two soldiers keeping the watch were shocked.
"Get me a phone fast mates! Captain Lykov is dead, everybody else have passed out, and I'm hosed too, I'm struggling to stay upright" - ejaculated Liakhovetski
"What the hell happened?"
"who knows - the radar burned everyone!".
After those words, soldiers led Liakhovetski to the pillbox
"Where do we call - to the man on duty?"

"First him , then up, to the headquarters"
The duty officer's inquiry were quickly interrupted by the variable mood of the Liakhovetski "Tovarishh officer, we are completely hosed, If we can't get a medic, three people will die here. I cannot move them myself - I can't drive anymore, my head is turning like crazy. I've also been shot up by the radar."

The officer on duty called the field hospital, then the headquarters. After doing so, he jumped in his jeep and hurried towards the checkpoint. After 10 minutes or so he was there with another technies group, a minute later the doctor and the field medic arrived, he injected the lightly wounded with corglucone (? I have no idea what it is), and installed intravenous catheters on the two difficult cases - Ivanyuk and Al'muhameddov. A call from the HQ came, it was the major who ordered to bring the four technies directly to the airfield, where an Il-76 was waiting. 40 minutes later all of them were already in the air, inside an empty Il-76 bound for Rzhevka airfield near Leningrad.
At the same time an emergency unit was dispatched from the Hospital of Military Medicine to the Rzhevka airfield. Surprisingly, the emergency van took the same amount of time to cross half of the Leningrad that it took the airplane to fly from a neighboring region.

A difficult questions have arisen as soon as the victims arrived at the Academy of the Military Medicine - how should they be medicated? It was more or less clear with Liakhovetsky - he had a mental breakdown, with additional neurological symptoms and fulminant cystitis of unknown origin. But the origin of that cystitis wasn't so mysterious - the brain and the bladder are the 'wettest' organs in the human body. This is why they were injured by the MW radiation first.
[...part 3...]

permabanned posted:

A psychiatrist, a neurologist and an urologist were called, and after this extraordinary council have determined the best medication and therapy course, our driver's condition started to improve quite quickly. Cystitis was cured with little effort in no more than a week. For some time the driver would present those strange symptoms, reminiscent of
a brain trauma, meningitis, arachnoiditis, alcohol intoxication and an extreme mood variability, but it was over in two month. The guy was dragged between various medical institutions, for the sake of research, demonstrated like a circus monkey, that took at least 6 month more, and he was released just before his demobilization. He had it easy.

It was much worse with the three others. The condition of the Sergeant Ivanyuk was very precarious, and despite all reanimation measures taken there was no notable improvement. His heart stopped after two days, and the efforts to restart it through electro-stimulation were unsuccessful. The sergeant died without regaining consciousness, but his death allowed the two others to survive. During the sergeant's autopsy a remarkable finding appeared - the radar injury consisted of the internal organs' burns, those organs that had a larger percentage of water content were burned more severely. It was also remarkable, because those burns were only on the surface - on the liver and kidney's fibrous capsules, on the arachnoids, on the bladder epithelium, on the endothelial surface of the major blood vessels. But the most important were found on the pericardium - the heart envelope. The victim have developed a fibrinous exudative pericarditis, a condition when there is too much liquid containing fibrin, the thrombotic agent, pours out in the pericardium. Despite the fact that the pericardium was drained, without the knowledge of the underlying condition, the normal blood counts could not be restored. So major thrombi formed in the vessels, leading to the infarctus and embolisms - the direct cause of death.

It was difficult to prevent this from happening, but the therapy course for the two remaining victims was now clear. They would be treated not for an unknown radar injury, but for a very concrete burns, inflicted by MW. That would also explain the immediately inflicted blindness - the cornea was simply burned away, due to the surface burns.
From then on, the combustologists have taken over the care for the two privates. Controlled dialysis was administered, along with intravenous diuretics and plasma to maintain the blood count balance - not to leak through the vessel's walls, but neither to form trombi. After a while the crisis was over.
In the beginning Al'muhameddinov had it worse than Sinyavin, because he developed pericarditis faster, but after the drainage, he didn't have as much fibrin scars, as Syniavin had. Syniavin was transferred to the surgery, where those scars were dissected and his heart normal function restored. Those guys staid in hospital for a long time, but even after their internal organs returned to normal, they couldn't have their sight back - it was irreparably lost, burned away by the radar.

[end]

The translation has taken more time than I would have expected.
Forgive me if the quality isn't quite good - I don't translate literature, even documentary - mostly scientific articles, contracts, legal stuff and some medical stuff from time to time.

HelleSpud
Apr 1, 2010
Thank you so much

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


A grand jury report has just been released on priest (and monsignor!) child sexual abuse in the Diocese of Altoona-Johnston, Pennsylvania. A lot of the details are sadly now routine-- priests offending, upper management being most concerned about the church's reputation and shuffling abusing priests around, pressure on the victims to say nothing, cash payoffs.

Altoona-Johnston had a couple of special new twists. The district is very, very solidly Catholic, which means that most police officers, politicians, prosecuting attorneys, and so on would also be Catholic. At least once, when a group of parents banded together and talked to the District Attorney, the district attorney reported back to the diocese, and agreed with the bishop to drop the case if the monsignor were moved out of town. The police also conspired to cover matters up. In one case, a priest left the state just ahead of a case being filed. The police claimed that they didn't know where he was and anyway the "400-day rule" kept them from pursuing the matter. The grand jury pointed out that there was, legally, no such rule, and that if the case had been filed they could have requested a federal warrant for his arrest. Here's the capper, though: in at least one town the Bishop appointed the fire chief and police chief. Literally. The mayor sent the Bishop a list of candidates, the Bishop interviewed them, and then the Bishop sent the Mayor a recommendation. Imagine living in a place where, if you wanted to report a crime committed by the church, the police chief owed his job to the church.

The other special twist is that when victims directly spoke to bishops, at least one of them threatened the victim with excommunication.

Finally, the Diocese made a payout chart for dealing with victims. Victims fondled over their clothes were to be paid $10,000 to $25,000; fondled under their clothes or subjected to masturbation, $15,000 to $40,000; subjected to forced oral sex, $25,000 to $75,000; subjected to forced sodomy or intercourse, $50,000 to $175,000. No mention, of course, was made of prosecution.

The grand jury has called for the statute of limitations on child abuse to be lifted, so that the few surviving perpetrators can be prosecuted.

Post-Gazette summary of grand jury report
Contents of an attorney's letter sent in 2002 to three different district attorneys with specific charges

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
Saw another Toynbee tile in the wild today:



St. Paul and Centre Sts, Baltimore. Pretty sure it's fresh, I walk by there multiple times a week and never noticed it before.

8 Ball
Nov 27, 2010

My hands are all messed up so you better post, brother.
Sooo...what's a Toynbee tile

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


8 Ball posted:

Sooo...what's a Toynbee tile

Woah ho ho! Man, what isn't a Toynbee Tile. I'm not even sure how I can describe it! Yeah I don't know either.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
Ah, sorry about that, thought they'd been discussed already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toynbee_tiles

Basically they're cryptic tiles that are driven into the pavement in cities around the country, and into South America, since the 80s. It's doubtful they're the work of one person, but they all have a remarkably similar style set and "message". No one has ever claimed responsibility, to my knowledge. There's a good documentary about them that used to be on Netflix, called Resurrect Dead, not sure if it's still up.

Not so much unnerving, but certainly bizarre.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

I like to imagine they're from a Banksy esque artist, but after seeing how Banksy turned out, Toynbee artist decided it's better to stay in the shadows.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Basically dead people's atoms travel to Jupiter when they die, and eventually we will have the technology to reconstitute them completely from those extraterrestrial particles. This is all explained in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey.

The documentary is extremely fascinating.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
These are two other ones that I've seen around town, I hear there are others. Apparently some areas of Philly are crawling with them.



china bot
Sep 7, 2014

you listen HERE pal
SAY GOODBYE TO TELEPHONE SEX
Plaster Town Cop

Crow Jane posted:

Saw another Toynbee tile in the wild today:



super loving jealous right now

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

JFC.

Brexit the Frog
Aug 22, 2013

Crow Jane posted:

These are two other ones that I've seen around town, I hear there are others. Apparently some areas of Philly are crawling with them.

this is super true, or at least was in 2010 when I was last there

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Rusty Staub posted:

this is super true, or at least was in 2010 when I was last there

Depending on which way I go to work, I walk past at least one every day.

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

Pubes dreaded out so hoes call me Chris Barnes. I don't wear a condom at the pig farm.

Crow Jane posted:

These are two other ones that I've seen around town, I hear there are others. Apparently some areas of Philly are crawling with them.





Recipes for Disaster, published by CrimethInc, has instructions on making and placing these.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!
I've seen two of these in the wild and was super stoked about it, one was pretty fresh and one was so old it was getting hard to tell what it was.

china bot
Sep 7, 2014

you listen HERE pal
SAY GOODBYE TO TELEPHONE SEX
Plaster Town Cop

Just noticed that this tile has some bonus text:

toynbee tile posted:

HITMAN FROM VENEZUELA + CUBA FAILED TO MURDER ME TWICE SO THEY SENT A human being CELL TO MURDER MY MOTHER

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

china bot posted:

Just noticed that this tile has some bonus text:

... Archer?

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

Oh god, now I'm going to read all toynbee tiles in his voice and it is AWESOME

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...
There are a lot of copycat tiles out there going under the name House of Hades. Here's one in Nashville on Broadway that I've walked past 100 times.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

that's a blast from the fuckin past right there, goddamn

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Crow Jane posted:

Saw another Toynbee tile in the wild today:



St. Paul and Centre Sts, Baltimore. Pretty sure it's fresh, I walk by there multiple times a week and never noticed it before.

How long do they usually hang around, might take a ride up there to check it out this weekend.

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

Pubes dreaded out so hoes call me Chris Barnes. I don't wear a condom at the pig farm.
I just dug out my copy of Recipes for Disaster. They're made of vinyl composition tile, linoleum, tar paper, and asphalt crack filler. I'm assuming whoever is making the new ones is probably using the CrimethInc directions. Apparently one of the original Toynbee tiles had some tips on making them.

edit to avoid double posting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_Boys is an article I found in the "Unsolved Mass Murders" category on wikipedia. Five South Korean boys aged 9-13 go off to catch frogs on election day in 1991. They're reported missing. The area is searched over 500 times. At one point "300,000 police officers" are sent to look for them. (Holy poo poo, Korea.) The bodies are found close to their homes in an already-searched area eleven years later by a man searching for acorns. Some of their clothes are knotted and the police try to say they wandered off, got lost, and died of hypothermia. Forensics showed all but one died of multiple blows to the head. The other boy was killed with a shotgun.

UwUnabomber has a new favorite as of 12:28 on Mar 11, 2016

Silky Slim
Jul 12, 2006
Makes a run for the gun circle....

joshtothemaxx posted:

There are a lot of copycat tiles out there going under the name House of Hades. Here's one in Nashville on Broadway that I've walked past 100 times.



Why would you wanna punish the mall?

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Plinkey posted:

How long do they usually hang around, might take a ride up there to check it out this weekend.

The other ones I know of have stuck around for years, thankfully the city has other priorities. In fact, one of the other ones I posted (the one about the Venezuelan hitman) is just a block over on Charles and Centre, by the Walters, and has been there for at least a couple years. Both are on the Northwest corners of their intersections. Traffic can be heavy, so be careful if you're taking pictures. Plenty of awesome places to eat and drink around there as well, in case you wanted to make a day of it.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Silky Slim posted:

Why would you wanna punish the mall?

Maybe they closed the Cinnabon?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Dylanthulhu posted:

edit to avoid double posting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_Boys is an article I found in the "Unsolved Mass Murders" category on wikipedia. Five South Korean boys aged 9-13 go off to catch frogs on election day in 1991. They're reported missing. The area is searched over 500 times. At one point "300,000 police officers" are sent to look for them. (Holy poo poo, Korea.) The bodies are found close to their homes in an already-searched area eleven years later by a man searching for acorns. Some of their clothes are knotted and the police try to say they wandered off, got lost, and died of hypothermia. Forensics showed all but one died of multiple blows to the head. The other boy was killed with a shotgun.

The craziest thing about this is that the statute of limitations(for quintuple murder!) ran out after only like fifteen years, so someone could literally confess to the crime without fear of prosecution. For brutally murdering five children. What the hell?

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

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What kind of backwards rear end place puts a statute of limitations on murder

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

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EX250 Type R posted:

What kind of backwards rear end place puts a statute of limitations on murder

It's been mentioned before but as of this past summer these guys are in the free and clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabant_killers

Statute of limitations on some crimes is kinda crazy.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

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Dylanthulhu posted:

I just dug out my copy of Recipes for Disaster. They're made of vinyl composition tile, linoleum, tar paper, and asphalt crack filler. I'm assuming whoever is making the new ones is probably using the CrimethInc directions. Apparently one of the original Toynbee tiles had some tips on making them.

edit to avoid double posting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_Boys is an article I found in the "Unsolved Mass Murders" category on wikipedia. Five South Korean boys aged 9-13 go off to catch frogs on election day in 1991. They're reported missing. The area is searched over 500 times. At one point "300,000 police officers" are sent to look for them. (Holy poo poo, Korea.) The bodies are found close to their homes in an already-searched area eleven years later by a man searching for acorns. Some of their clothes are knotted and the police try to say they wandered off, got lost, and died of hypothermia. Forensics showed all but one died of multiple blows to the head. The other boy was killed with a shotgun.

At the time of the crime one boy said that he'd heard a scream in the area where the bodies were later found but the police disregarded it out of hand.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Whats the logic behind having a statute of limitations on murder? Is it that its super rare to convict someone so far after the fact? Because I seem to rememeber not too long ago a murder being solved after like 40 years or something because of DNA testing.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

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Solice Kirsk posted:

Whats the logic behind having a statute of limitations on murder? Is it that its super rare to convict someone so far after the fact? Because I seem to rememeber not too long ago a murder being solved after like 40 years or something because of DNA testing.

Maybe the thinking is that any evidence discovered 30 or 40 years after the fact is unreliable. Even a confession I guess? Who knows, I'm struggling to figure that one out.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Basebf555 posted:

Maybe the thinking is that any evidence discovered 30 or 40 years after the fact is unreliable. Even a confession I guess? Who knows, I'm struggling to figure that one out.

I'm guessing they just have a general statute of limitations for all crimes and simply haven't made an exception for murder, perhaps because having one for murder means you get pressure to have a different one for aggravated assault, and if you have one for that you have to answer why you don't have one for rape and so on.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

ArchangeI posted:

I'm guessing they just have a general statute of limitations for all crimes and simply haven't made an exception for murder, perhaps because having one for murder means you get pressure to have a different one for aggravated assault, and if you have one for that you have to answer why you don't have one for rape and so on.

Ah yes, a slippery slope argument. Those are always the best.

BattyKiara
Mar 17, 2009

Solice Kirsk posted:

Whats the logic behind having a statute of limitations on murder? Is it that its super rare to convict someone so far after the fact? Because I seem to rememeber not too long ago a murder being solved after like 40 years or something because of DNA testing.

The argument I've heard goes something like this: "By having a statute of limitation we give the murderer a chance to come forward, this giving the grieving family closure. Not knowing what happened to their loved one is worse than knowing the murderer got away with his crime."

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Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Since we're talking about unsolved murders in South Korea, I have to mention the movie "Memories of Murder", about a true story of a slew of killings in the 1980's. Definitely worth a watch.

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