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Mr. Wookums posted:you sure as hell can taste the biproducts of them you dumbshit Nah.
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Mar 9, 2016 23:54
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While having someone on my ignore list quoted this many times is annoying, it pleases me greatly to know that he has been placed on several more.
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Mar 9, 2016 23:56
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Mr. Wookums posted:you sure as hell can taste the biproducts of them you dumbshit Just downing a big old glass of bacteria poo poo here.
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Mar 9, 2016 23:56
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Unormal posted:It needs to be legislated because of people like you. what about me indicates that raw milk needs to be banned from sale? i wouldn't drink the stuff, i'm just pointing out a patchy and uneven application of the law which can be changed without people being automatically classified as dangerous hippies. and people are disagreeing with me and calling me dumb for challenging this assumption not everyone who disagrees with you personally on a topic does so out of ignorance or stupidity. there's a big level of huffy nerd arrogance to presume that your preferences are automatically superior to other people's. so what if someone wants to get sick drinking raw milk, there are tons of things people are allowed to do in terms of risky food production from sushi to grilling to home brewing but for some reason milk is a special taboo food that extra double poisons you or something west virgina implemented a new law, some lawmakers got sick drinking raw milk, that's funny but it doesn't make them stupid or anyone who sneers at them morally superior
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Mar 9, 2016 23:57
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I don't know about you, but I personally can't enjoy a meal without the great taste of botulinum.
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Mar 9, 2016 23:57
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Asimo posted:I don't know about you, but I personally can't enjoy a meal without the great taste of botulinum. same. that's why I self can
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Mar 10, 2016 00:00
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Can't wait until tomorrow's derail when PTD challenges the assumption that the earth is round.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:00
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The taste difference in raw milk is due to it not being homogenized, by the way.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:00
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so what if someone wants to get sick drinking raw milk, there are tons of things people are allowed to do in terms of risky food production from sushi to grilling to home brewing but for some reason milk is a special taboo food that extra double poisons you or something MacheteZombie had posted the actual incidence rates of outbreaks from raw milk a couple times now. It actually IS more dangerous than other risky foods
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Mar 10, 2016 00:01
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Popular Thug Drink posted:what about me indicates that raw milk needs to be banned from sale? i wouldn't drink the stuff, i'm just pointing out a patchy and uneven application of the law which can be changed without people being automatically classified as dangerous hippies. and people are disagreeing with me and calling me dumb for challenging this assumption You're not arguing in good faith.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:01
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stinkles1112 posted:MacheteZombie had posted the actual incidence rates of outbreaks from raw milk a couple times now. It actually IS more dangerous than other risky foods even if this is so, what's the threshold for dangerous? you can only kill X americans per year? *cough*tobacco*cough*
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Mar 10, 2016 00:03
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Popular Thug Drink posted:even if this is so, what's the threshold for dangerous? you can only kill X americans per year? *cough*tobacco*cough* Tobacco doesn't carry infectious diseases
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Mar 10, 2016 00:04
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stinkles1112 posted:Tobacco doesn't carry infectious diseases It is also highly regulated.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:04
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lactic and acetoc acids are produced by bacteria that you happen to kill with pasteurization. You can taste and smell those acids in other applications, e.g. bread. Yeasts also fall in the same vein as they're naturally occiring everywhere, even in milk. How is this debatable? Raw milk doesn't even need cultures or acids added to produce cheese.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:05
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Popular Thug Drink posted:yeah let's get right on that after we ban tobacco, alcohol, raw fish, and cars that go more than 70 mph 
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Mar 10, 2016 00:06
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stinkles1112 posted:Tobacco doesn't carry infectious diseases no, but it's dangrous as hell the point i'm getting at here is that there's nothing special about raw milk in terms of the risk factor that warrants specific legislation, it's a historical artifact of a pre-refrigeration era and it's not indicative of mental defectiveness to update laws as time passes
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Mar 10, 2016 00:06
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Popular Thug Drink posted:even if this is so, what's the threshold for dangerous? you can only kill X americans per year? *cough*tobacco*cough* Ya, it really is bullshit that a huge subsection of smokers are children who has little or no control over the tobacco products they use cause they are at the whim of their parents' shopping habits. And the goddamned schools just handing out cigarettes to kids. It's crazy.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:07
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Mr. Wookums posted:lactic and acetoc acids are produced by bacteria that you happen to kill with pasteurization. You can taste and smell those acids in other applications, e.g. bread. Yeasts also fall in the same vein as they're naturally occiring everywhere, even in milk. How is this debatable? Raw milk doesn't even need cultures or acids added to produce cheese.  He was trolling.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:07
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Popular Thug Drink posted:even if this is so, what's the threshold for dangerous? you can only kill X americans per year? *cough*tobacco*cough* Secondly, different people in different areas have determined what they feel is the threshold for dangerous, and have acted upon it accordingly by passing laws and regulations. This would be that "patchwork of inconsistent laws" you referred to and is actually exactly how the law supposed to work!
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Mar 10, 2016 00:08
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alpha_destroy posted:Ya, it really is bullshit that a huge subsection of smokers are children who has little or no control over the tobacco products they use cause they are at the whim of their parents' shopping habits. i know you mean this iroically but secondhand smoke stinkles1112 posted:Secondly, different people in different areas have determined what they feel is the threshold for dangerous, and have acted upon it accordingly by passing laws and regulations. This would be that "patchwork of inconsistent laws" you referred to and is actually exactly how the law supposed to work! do you think this is something i disagree with, i'm saying how it's not dumb for a state to pass a law that people get internet upset about
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Mar 10, 2016 00:08
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Popular Thug Drink posted:no, but it's dangrous as hell Yeah I understand that and the point that there's nothing special about raw milk is not correct. It actually is more dangerous.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:09
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mdemone posted:The taste difference in raw milk is due to it not being homogenized, by the way.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:10
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alpha_destroy posted:Ya, it really is bullshit that a huge subsection of smokers are children who has little or no control over the tobacco products they use cause they are at the whim of their parents' shopping habits. And the goddamned schools just handing out cigarettes to kids. It's crazy. Also, you know, we did ban the way tobacco gets into children, secondhand smoke. And none of these laws prevent Perpetually Thickheaded Dumbass from getting a cow and producing his own raw milk for personal consumption, just like there aren't any laws preventing people from smoking around kids in their own homes. Our society still affords us so many wonderful ways to hurt children. Don't ever be afraid you'll lose that, PTD.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:11
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i know you mean this iroically but secondhand smoke Exists? Yes. And one of the public health coups of the last few decades has been the proliferation of smoking bans in restaurants. But the gently caress does any of this have to do with milk haha. PTD, you have made my day today.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:11
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Holy poo poo will you people stop arguing about raw loving milk?
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Mar 10, 2016 00:11
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beats talking about trump or hillary or bernie
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Mar 10, 2016 00:13
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Mad Hamish posted:Holy poo poo will you people stop arguing about raw loving milk? It's an interesting and apparently contentious topic that is relevant to US politics. It's fine.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:14
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stinkles1112 posted:Yeah I understand that and the point that there's nothing special about raw milk is not correct. It actually is more dangerous. i'm not sure how you could actually prove this but if it's your sincere belief i won't question it this article says it's a tossup between leafy vegetables, dairy, and poultry by which i assume they mean chicken meat http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/3/pdfs/11-1866.pdf raw milk is singled out but the study states they can't differentiate raw from pasteurized milk so it's hard to say how bad raw milk is specifically
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Mar 10, 2016 00:15
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i'm not sure how you could actually prove this but if it's your sincere belief i won't question it Lemming posted:http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/nonpasteurized-outbreaks.html
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Mar 10, 2016 00:16
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Every morning I wake up and open palm squeeze some milk out of Bessie's teats.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:18
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So how long will presidential candidates continue to have to suck up to farmers, considering they only make 2% of the population and that number's shrinking? The most common job in the country is retail worker, can that become the official job of Real America instead?
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Mar 10, 2016 00:18
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Popular Thug Drink posted:
Yes it does. The only thing funnier would be their idiocy getting them shot dead while a drone films it
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Mar 10, 2016 00:20
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So how long will presidential candidates continue to have to suck up to farmers, considering they only make 2% of the population and that number's shrinking? The most common job in the country is retail worker, can that become the official job of Real America instead?
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Mar 10, 2016 00:21
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Bet whoever posted that original article feels like a real rear end in a top hat
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Mar 10, 2016 00:21
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So how long will presidential candidates continue to have to suck up to farmers, considering they only make 2% of the population and that number's shrinking? The most common job in the country is retail worker, can that become the official job of Real America instead?
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Mar 10, 2016 00:21
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FlamingLiberal posted:Just like the Iowa caucuses being super important, that's not changing any time soon Not totally true, the fast food worker $15 an hour minimum wage issue was a thing earlier in the Democratic primary.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:22
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So how long will presidential candidates continue to have to suck up to farmers, considering they only make 2% of the population and that number's shrinking? The most common job in the country is retail worker, can that become the official job of Real America instead? Retail makes you hate people, the contentious debates would move to "Should we have televised executions twice daily?" and "Can I open carry in my store and is it defending my castle if they insisted on a refund with no receipt?" I kid, mostly. fe: National "count stock day" added as federal holiday in mid September.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:25
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So how long will presidential candidates continue to have to suck up to farmers, considering they only make 2% of the population and that number's shrinking? The most common job in the country is retail worker, can that become the official job of Real America instead? Because those are only jobs for "teenagers to have after school" or folks who were "too lazy to upgrade their skills/pay their dues/are poor people" and thus deserve scorn. Epic High Five posted:Bet whoever posted that original article feels like a real rear end in a top hat Yes, having a debate over US laws and policy in the US POL thread of all places makes no loving sense. Sorry if issues of public health aren't specifically interesting to you, but if you don't like it, post about something else.
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What I have learned today is 100 years from now tobacco will be hailed to cure all sorta of illness. Execute all retards let humanity move forward
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