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Or they could just be loose in defence as well. A bit risky with the tackles as well, there's been a couple that looked like arms were never intended to take part.
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Mar 13, 2016 16:36
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tarbrush posted:Oh dear, good France have put in an appearance. Shame for Scotland, should make a good game though. It's ok, Inexplicably Capable Scotland have also shown up!
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Mar 13, 2016 16:38
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Sneaky Laidlaw and Hogg pulling back defenders....
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Mar 13, 2016 16:39
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stavros880 posted:Sneaky Laidlaw and Hogg pulling back defenders.... Once again we are reminded that top quality cheating wins rugby matches.
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Mar 13, 2016 16:55
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stavros880 posted:Sneaky Laidlaw and Hogg pulling back defenders.... Aye cos the open side flanker was going to make up 10m in a straight sprint with a centre at full skelp... 
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Mar 13, 2016 17:00
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Mar 13, 2016 17:19
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Heid the Ball posted:Aye cos the open side flanker was going to make up 10m in a straight sprint with a centre at full skelp... The 6 was about 5 yards away and missed the tackle by inches..... I mean, the ref gave it, so it's a try, but lets not pretend he was miles off
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Mar 13, 2016 17:27
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Let's have a sweepsteak to guess how quickly John Inverdale starts talking about England after this match. I give it 4 sentences.
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Mar 13, 2016 17:29
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Mar 13, 2016 17:33
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Well done Scotland. 
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Mar 13, 2016 17:47
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hitchensgoespop posted:Let's have a sweepsteak to guess how quickly John Inverdale starts talking about England after this match. I give it 4 sentences. Pretty close.
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Mar 13, 2016 17:51
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stavros880 posted:The 6 was about 5 yards away and missed the tackle by inches..... I mean, the ref gave it, so it's a try, but lets not pretend he was miles off Never broke stride, and the other Frenchman was tripping Laidlaw, hence why he grabbed the guy. Then immediately let go, the guy never twitched. So perfectly fine, even after review by ref and TMO, who are more qualified than you or I.
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Mar 13, 2016 17:55
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Engerlaaaand etc
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Mar 13, 2016 18:51
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What's the money France turn up next week and smash England? We desperately want the grand slam and I just have a feeling the French will do what the French do.
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Mar 13, 2016 18:58
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Well then we shall tell everyone it doesnt really matter as long as we beat Wales and won the tournament If we do get the GS it'll be the most important thing ever and you don't win the 6 nations 'properly' without it
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Mar 13, 2016 19:02
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thegasman2000 posted:What's the money France turn up next week and smash England? We desperately want the grand slam and I just have a feeling the French will do what the French do. That's just your nerves and general sporting pessimism. Can't see any other result than a GS for England. I'm still really confused why Wales and to a lesser extent Ireland have just failed to get going in this tournament. Scotland are still shite and who knows what the gently caress France are doing but it's just been a very odd couple of weeks.
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Mar 13, 2016 19:06
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Skarsnik posted:
I kinda think that's true more than ever, good sides are measured in terms of GS wins. Champion titles while nice tend to get forgotten.
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Mar 13, 2016 19:08
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How on earth did Eddie Jones manage to get England to win the 6N? I mean they didn't train even once with the SAS????
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Mar 14, 2016 00:07
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hitchensgoespop posted:I'm still really confused why Wales and to a lesser extent Ireland have just failed to get going in this tournament. Scotland are still shite and who knows what the gently caress France are doing but it's just been a very odd couple of weeks. Wales is easy. The Gatland Wales are so one dimensional people at the Cambridge maths department are doing PhD research on it as a new branch of number theory. They rely purely on hard runners going straight at the defensive line to force two on one tackles and eventually the defense running out of players. With a defense that can either tackle Wales behind the gain line or be better at the break down the defense doesn't run out of players. Wales just doesn't have it in them to have that spark to run good lines. If you can stop Wales at the break down you can stop Wales full stop. Ireland are getting old and injured and the understudies just are not at the same level. A fully fit and firing 1st choice team is hard to play against but the injuries hit them hard as the cupboard looks a bit bare.
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Mar 14, 2016 00:20
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To call Wales one-dimensional is a disservice to actually one-dimensional teams. They're good defenders, but they're more predictable than day following night on attack, and are desperately lacking in any attacking intelligence. Ireland are severely lacking in player depth. Italy are the shittiest bunch of shits that ever poo poo in the history of making GBS threads. Scotland are masters at playing beneath their abilities. The only way France will win is if England have a spectacular collapse under the pressure of delivering a grand slam.
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Mar 14, 2016 04:37
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Wales are one-dimensional robots for the first 60-70 minutes. By which point they've either bashed the lesser teams into submission or are 4 scores down to anyone good. At which point they they chuck it around like Fiji and run in enough tries to almost win. Most people just wish they would chuck it around like Fiji from the first minute if only for a bit of variety It's been like this since 2003.
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Mar 14, 2016 08:48
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And South Africa can do that "crush you into submission" style of rugby much better, and they actually make the most of players like Willie le Roux when they need to. Like, look at their trilogy of Ellis Park tests with the All Blacks in 2013, 2014 and 2015. Those games are some of the best in the last decade or so, particularly the 2013 test, and they're loving fantastic because both teams are playing some next level rugby.
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Mar 14, 2016 08:58
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Wales is easy. The Gatland Wales are so one dimensional people at the Cambridge maths department are doing PhD research on it as a new branch of number theory. They rely purely on hard runners going straight at the defensive line to force two on one tackles and eventually the defense running out of players. With a defense that can either tackle Wales behind the gain line or be better at the break down the defense doesn't run out of players. Wales just doesn't have it in them to have that spark to run good lines. If you can stop Wales at the break down you can stop Wales full stop. Agree in principle, but if its SUCH a simple and easy style of play to A) Execute and B) defend against in that you can tell what every player is going to do 5 mins before hes doing it, why haven't Wales been found out sooner rather than having pretty much their best period of success since the 70s and were a debatable red card away from one world cup final and got to the semis with pretty much their third string side. I think its some primo level armchair coaching to say "hai guyz, why you never stop wales at the breakdown and thus win"
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Mar 14, 2016 10:10
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I really enjoyed the Scotland game not only because we crushed the French but because it was a good game. Both teams played some really good Rugby.
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Mar 14, 2016 10:23
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hitchensgoespop posted:Agree in principle, but if its SUCH a simple and easy style of play to A) Execute and B) defend against in that you can tell what every player is going to do 5 mins before hes doing it, why haven't Wales been found out sooner rather than having pretty much their best period of success since the 70s and were a debatable red card away from one world cup final and got to the semis with pretty much their third string side. Yeah, but beating Wales hasn't really been an issue for the SANZAR teams now has it?
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Mar 14, 2016 10:24
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Vagabundo posted:Yeah, but beating Wales hasn't really been an issue for the SANZAR teams now has it? No, but to be fair, most of the NH sides have struggled to beat the SH sides on balance over the last 8 or so years. And again theres far more behind Wales lack of success in the SH than just them being an easy side to read
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Mar 14, 2016 10:30
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Vagabundo posted:And South Africa can do that "crush you into submission" style of rugby much better, and they actually make the most of players like Willie le Roux when they need to. It's a problem at the level of player skills and it goes deep into our rugby culture. Whenever you raise this in England there's always a bunch of arseholes who would genuinely rather see a mudpile than a flowing game. We have good runners but we're generally quite bad at seeing space and getting the ball into it, which all the southern nations do much better. I think the world cup has woken some people up to this but it's going to take some time to shift. Note that every home nation now has a southern hemisphere coach and it's made bugger all difference to handling skills or play style because these guys are raised to bosh it up and not much else.With the exception that it seems like England players are a little bit more space-aware under Eddie than they were before.
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Mar 14, 2016 10:35
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I'm really not sure how Marler has avoided being cited for the forearm smash on Evans. It makes me a little bit less confident that he'll have any real punishment for calling Samson Lee "gypsy boy".
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Mar 14, 2016 10:50
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As an England fan I would be delighted to see Marler eat a long ban. For several reasons.
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Mar 14, 2016 10:55
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fallingdownjoe posted:It makes me a little bit less confident that he'll have any real punishment for calling Samson Lee "gypsy boy". From reading the BBC piece this morning, it seemed like it was done and dusted and nothing further would happen. Which i think is pretty abhorrent if that ends up being the case. The RU would probably rather that it all just went away as well so...
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Mar 14, 2016 11:30
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Mar 14, 2016 12:03
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Well, and now Marler's been cited for the elbow. Better late than never I suppose.
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Mar 14, 2016 13:00
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Marler has apparently apologised for the "gyspy boy" comment. So that's pretty much an admission of guilt and there really isn't any reason why he shouldn't eat a big ban for that, never mind the elbow he put into Lee earlier.
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Assuming the lack of news means Marler hasn't been cited for his comments. At least it saves us from the weeks of "Travellers aren't a race" and "political correctness gone mad" cuntery from the Rugby Mad Public.
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Mar 14, 2016 18:17
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Gypsygate is still under investigation according to the guardian.
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Mar 14, 2016 18:34
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I hope he does get banned for it, and not just with the vested interest of not seeing him give away a shitload of scrum penalties next week.
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hitchensgoespop posted:Agree in principle, but if its SUCH a simple and easy style of play to A) Execute and B) defend against in that you can tell what every player is going to do 5 mins before hes doing it, why haven't Wales been found out sooner rather than having pretty much their best period of success since the 70s and were a debatable red card away from one world cup final and got to the semis with pretty much their third string side. Wales have been found out for a while. The last 6 Nations was 2013 and that was down to points difference and only two wins against a SANZAR team in the last decade. By Welsh standards its been a very successful period but that's not a particularly high bar. Plus that red card was justified and is a text book example of a tip tackle. If that had been done by any one but a Welsh player you would of been fine with the card.
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Yes they've been found out. Sides are Lining up to beat them. Except they aren't. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they aren't playing very basic rugby but when done well it can be very effective. See also England in the 90s. And you're second point is flat out wrong. Nice try though.
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